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On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 09:12:45 -0500, katy wrote: Charlie Morgan wrote: On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 08:09:33 -0500, katy wrote: I do know about tropical rainforests and it is a much simpler task to fix This is unequivocal proof that you haven't a clue about tropical rainforests. CWM In regards to growing new rainforests? Yes..in respect to keeping the ones that exist...no....and you have no clue as to what I do or do not know... You have even less of a clue as to what you know and don't know. CWM Coming from the totally clueless... |
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(in article ): Charlie Morgan wrote: On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 08:09:33 -0500, katy wrote: I do know about tropical rainforests and it is a much simpler task to fix This is unequivocal proof that you haven't a clue about tropical rainforests. CWM In regards to growing new rainforests? Yes..in respect to keeping the ones that exist...no....and you have no clue as to what I do or do not know... Chiming in from a timber farming area... New will never replace old growth in our lifetimes. Here they get a marketable product about every 25-30 years. These trees are a 1/5 of the size of "Old Growth". In the Rain forests the indigenous tribes are split up and given christianity for hope... Unbelievable. The animals are forced into ever confining spaces etc. No we must just go ahead and enjoy what is left. I plan on using plenty of fossil fuel and tossing my soda cans overboard (torn open of course). All is lost. To late. Nothing left but discussion. -- Mundo, The Captain who is a bully and an ass |
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On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 09:12:45 -0500, katy wrote (in article ): Charlie Morgan wrote: On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 08:09:33 -0500, katy wrote: I do know about tropical rainforests and it is a much simpler task to fix This is unequivocal proof that you haven't a clue about tropical rainforests. CWM In regards to growing new rainforests? Yes..in respect to keeping the ones that exist...no....and you have no clue as to what I do or do not know... Chiming in from a timber farming area... New will never replace old growth in our lifetimes. Here they get a marketable product about every 25-30 years. These trees are a 1/5 of the size of "Old Growth". In the Rain forests the indigenous tribes are split up and given christianity for hope... Unbelievable. The animals are forced into ever confining spaces etc. No we must just go ahead and enjoy what is left. I plan on using plenty of fossil fuel and tossing my soda cans overboard (torn open of course). All is lost. To late. Nothing left but discussion. Animals adapt or disappear...natural selection... |
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says... On Tue, 6 Feb 2007 19:23:47 -0800, "Capt. JG" said: War is peace. Tsk, tsk. As a Republican, you should have said Peace is war. Sigh. I should have known you wouldn't catch a literary allusion. My favorite quote from that book was "if you're going to break the big rules, you have to keep all the little ones". Pretty good advice, IMHO. -- "Tis an ill wind that blows no minds" ....PK |
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On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 11:18:36 -0500, katy wrote
(in article ): Mundo wrote: On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 09:12:45 -0500, katy wrote (in article ): Charlie Morgan wrote: On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 08:09:33 -0500, katy wrote: I do know about tropical rainforests and it is a much simpler task to fix This is unequivocal proof that you haven't a clue about tropical rainforests. CWM In regards to growing new rainforests? Yes..in respect to keeping the ones that exist...no....and you have no clue as to what I do or do not know... Chiming in from a timber farming area... New will never replace old growth in our lifetimes. Here they get a marketable product about every 25-30 years. These trees are a 1/5 of the size of "Old Growth". In the Rain forests the indigenous tribes are split up and given christianity for hope... Unbelievable. The animals are forced into ever confining spaces etc. No we must just go ahead and enjoy what is left. I plan on using plenty of fossil fuel and tossing my soda cans overboard (torn open of course). All is lost. To late. Nothing left but discussion. Animals adapt or disappear...natural selection... I suggest we form a committee to discuss forming a committee on what species we should destroy next, I mean naturally select -- Mundo, The Captain who is a bully and an ass |
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... Capt. JG wrote: "katy" wrote in message ... Maxprop wrote: "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... "katy" wrote in message ... Charlie Morgan wrote: On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 00:15:55 GMT, "scbafreak via BoatKB.com" u25927@uwe wrote: It's easy enough to say something stupid like that but ya gotta provide some proof. Not everybody's had the logic circuits of their brains short-circuited by LSD.... Not everybody believes crap like you, Capt. JG the illegal drug using braggart. Cheers, Ellen Nobody will ever be able to prove conclusively that what we ar edoing to the environment is causing climate changes and if there is a significant event we will never be able to prove conclusively that it was our fault but we have a lot of really good evidence that the pollutants we are putting into the air are causing global changes. It's pretty easy to prove cause and effect as far as humans mowing down tropical rainforests causing changes in weather patterns. CWM That's an entirely different discussion than the CO2 and global warming discussion... Actually, it isn't. Only because you *want* it to be one and the same. Max He sibscribes to the basic Augustinian belief that man is inherently evil...so no matter what it is, man must be at the root of it....he has raised mankind to sich omnipotence that it is untenable...and his articulation of his cause is redundant...so there...I used the "a' word... Huh? Humankind has the potential to do great things. Sounds like a very pessimistic viewpoint you and Max have. Yes...humankind has done many great things...but humankind is not omnipotent and once again you are referring to some science fiction world... Scotty isn't omnipotent? Darn it... -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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... Capt. JG wrote: "Maxprop" wrote in message hlink.net... "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... "katy" wrote in message ... Charlie Morgan wrote: On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 00:15:55 GMT, "scbafreak via BoatKB.com" u25927@uwe wrote: It's easy enough to say something stupid like that but ya gotta provide some proof. Not everybody's had the logic circuits of their brains short-circuited by LSD.... Not everybody believes crap like you, Capt. JG the illegal drug using braggart. Cheers, Ellen Nobody will ever be able to prove conclusively that what we ar edoing to the environment is causing climate changes and if there is a significant event we will never be able to prove conclusively that it was our fault but we have a lot of really good evidence that the pollutants we are putting into the air are causing global changes. It's pretty easy to prove cause and effect as far as humans mowing down tropical rainforests causing changes in weather patterns. CWM That's an entirely different discussion than the CO2 and global warming discussion... Actually, it isn't. Only because you *want* it to be one and the same. Max I wish it weren't, but I'm living in the real world. Luvung anywhere within a 500 mile radius of San Francisco is not luvung in the real world...for that matter, mist of CA is not the real world...now if you lived in Imaha or Dubuque or Minneapolis, then you could claim to live in the real world... According to you... as though living either in the frozen tundra or the swamps of Florida where they can't even get an election sorted out... well, ok. You convinced me. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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... On Tue, 6 Feb 2007 19:23:47 -0800, "Capt. JG" said: War is peace. Tsk, tsk. As a Republican, you should have said Peace is war. Sigh. I should have known you wouldn't catch a literary allusion. Sigh, you're no lit major. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 11:18:36 -0500, katy wrote: Mundo wrote: On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 09:12:45 -0500, katy wrote (in article ): Charlie Morgan wrote: On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 08:09:33 -0500, katy wrote: I do know about tropical rainforests and it is a much simpler task to fix This is unequivocal proof that you haven't a clue about tropical rainforests. CWM In regards to growing new rainforests? Yes..in respect to keeping the ones that exist...no....and you have no clue as to what I do or do not know... Chiming in from a timber farming area... New will never replace old growth in our lifetimes. Here they get a marketable product about every 25-30 years. These trees are a 1/5 of the size of "Old Growth". In the Rain forests the indigenous tribes are split up and given christianity for hope... Unbelievable. The animals are forced into ever confining spaces etc. No we must just go ahead and enjoy what is left. I plan on using plenty of fossil fuel and tossing my soda cans overboard (torn open of course). All is lost. To late. Nothing left but discussion. Animals adapt or disappear...natural selection... You mean like passenger pigeons? CWM "The Passenger Pigeon is now extinct. Over hunting, the clearing of forests to make way for agriculture, and perhaps other factors doomed the species. The decline was well under way by the 1850’s." The last passenger pigeon in the wild was shot in 1899...I suppose you want to blame global warming for that? That was a period of time when indiscriminate hunting practices rulled the day ala Teddy Toosevelt and the Mighty White Hunter syndrome..and just what would have been your solution in 1850 regarding your need to clear forests for fields to feed your family or whether some pigeons lost their homes? Passenger pigeons were very similar to mourning doves yet the mournig dove population is alive and well and in some areas is so prolific that hunting has once again been allowed (which I do not agree with). Peregrine falcons are an example of a bird that, with man's help, has learned to adapt to new environments. Instead of roosting and nesting in mountains and high trees, they are now comfortable nesting in high rises and on bridge structures...we have a pair that live son top of the Hames River Bridge that had a nestful of babies this past season. Other animals have adjusted on their own. Most cities report indicences of deer populations within city limits and in the suburbs. Other wild animals, like coyotes, possums. skunks, and raccoons have no prtoblem living side by side with man. For that matter, the big vats, mountain lions, lynx and bobcat, have no problems living with man. It's man who complains because they act like cats and hunt. Bears are moving down the lower penninsula in Michigan and every year the reports are of bears further south. These are all examples of anumals that are adjusting. Problem is, many don't want the animals to adjust...they cart them back to the wilderness where their population can't be sustained by the food supply. The natural inclination when a fgood supply dries up is to move..but man won't let them move. So why isn't more being done by urban planners to accomodate wildlife? The same reason the BLM goes in a slaighters hundreds upon hundreds of wild horses every eyar. THey use up resources man wants. So my take on this whole thing is if global warming is a reality, let it happen. Man will not adapt. He would counter the heat by building more and better AC units, etc to take care of his comforts...he will move further and further away from the equator where the rain forests will then start to repopulate temselves. THose that can't afford to move will die. Maybe the few that survive and are still able to reproduce can start all over again with the knowledge of what to do tight the next chance. Or maybe we'll just disappear like the passenger pigeon and our edifices will become a habitat and breeding fround for whatever takes over. I love wilrdlife. I believe in conservation. I do believe that man is responsible for the extinction of animals to serve his own selfish needs. But there comes a time, in the survival of the fittest, when one species becomes dominant and takes over. Usually what happens in nature is that that species eules for awhile and then dies away. Maybe it's our turn to die away. |
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Capt. JG wrote:
"katy" wrote in message ... Capt. JG wrote: "katy" wrote in message ... Maxprop wrote: "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... "katy" wrote in message ... Maxprop wrote: "Dave" wrote in message news:ci8hs2h5dkios8a07couquqj31247pfsvn@4a x.com... On Mon, 5 Feb 2007 22:24:24 -0800, "Capt. JG" said: Global environmental change for the worse is happening because human beings are so shortsighted as to ignore their own long-term best interests. Thus endeth the reading of the gospel according to Jon. Max, it's an article of faith with these folks. Challenging their gospel is like urging that the Bible is not divinely inspired--you'll never get that concession from the ultra-devout. Those running the global warming show are in it for the money and power. And they depend upon dupes like Jon to buy into their spiel. Fortunately for them there are plenty like Jon around to fund their chosen lifestyles. Max I already said that... How am I "funding" my lifestyle by my willingness to make a few sacrifices for the greater good? Funding *their* lifestyle--that of the leaders of organizations dependent upon your devotion and your donations. Max He thinks Hil and Bill live in a shack and drive a Yugo becasue of their great altruism... Guess you didn't hear Bill say that he didn't need yet another tax break. I don't hear Cheney saying that. How generous of him...he's probably maxed out... Or, god forbid, he's actually being honest unlike Cheney who wasn't born with that ability. U'm not a particular fan of either GW or Cheney so it doens't make any difference to me...or for that matter, Bill Clinton..I'm gonna jump on the Ralph Nader bandwagon... |
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"Dave" wrote Wrong again, Jon. I was indeed. Edited the University's poetry magazine in fact. (Despite the minors in math and physics.) Stay away from lusting after minors. They don't call them jail bait for nothing.... Cheers, Ellen |
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message ... How so? We're polluting our environment by cutting down the forest and by burning the vegatation. That produces greenhouse gasses, which contributes to the global warming. In addition, the lack of trees reduces the possible absorbtion of those very gasses. Look it up if you're not too scared. _We_ are not doing it. Greedy beef barons are doing it by giving the people free chainsaws and rewarding them for cutting down trees so the former forest becomes grassland before the topsoil finally goes. The mahogany trees that are easy to move get to become fine furniture and boats. The ones in difficult locations are burned or just left to rot. I have seen students in Uk protesting that 'mahogany is murder' but they have the wrong target. If you want to help the planet do not buy beef that comes from Brazil. |
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... On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 09:50:23 -0800, "Capt. JG" said: frozen tundra or the swamps of Florida You need to join Charlie in getting out and around a bit. Who? -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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... On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 09:51:47 -0800, "Capt. JG" said: Sigh, you're no lit major. Wrong again, Jon. I was indeed. Edited the University's poetry magazine in fact. (Despite the minors in math and physics.) Wow... well, in that case, how could you not get it? g -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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... Or, god forbid, he's actually being honest unlike Cheney who wasn't born with that ability. U'm not a particular fan of either GW or Cheney so it doens't make any difference to me...or for that matter, Bill Clinton..I'm gonna jump on the Ralph Nader bandwagon... Well, that really was just a vote for the Bushco crowd last time. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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... "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... How so? We're polluting our environment by cutting down the forest and by burning the vegatation. That produces greenhouse gasses, which contributes to the global warming. In addition, the lack of trees reduces the possible absorbtion of those very gasses. Look it up if you're not too scared. _We_ are not doing it. Greedy beef barons are doing it by giving the people free chainsaws and rewarding them for cutting down trees so the former forest becomes grassland before the topsoil finally goes. The mahogany trees that are easy to move get to become fine furniture and boats. The ones in difficult locations are burned or just left to rot. I have seen students in Uk protesting that 'mahogany is murder' but they have the wrong target. If you want to help the planet do not buy beef that comes from Brazil. True enough. I think we're not doing enough to help, but we're not doing it directly, as Katy pointed out I believe. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Or, god forbid, he's actually being honest unlike Cheney who wasn't born
with that ability. U'm not a particular fan of either GW or Cheney so it doens't make any difference to me...or for that matter, Bill Clinton..I'm gonna jump on the Ralph Nader bandwagon... Well, that really was just a vote for the Bushco crowd last time. No it was a vote for Nader. What is with Democrats saying that they didn't so much lose to Bush as get screwed bby Nader. If the Dems could have gotten a good strong candidate then they would have won the election. Instead they choose these non-threatening kind of wussy little guys. Americans don't like that. Americans like tough guys. As much of an Environmentalist as I am I could not bring myself to vote for Kerry. He is too much of a giant "V" for me. I don't think I am alone in this thinking. Democrats like that sort of guy and so I will never be a Democrat. -- Message posted via BoatKB.com http://www.boatkb.com/Uwe/Forums.asp...iling/200702/1 |
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On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 13:08:11 -0500, katy wrote: Charlie Morgan wrote: On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 11:18:36 -0500, katy wrote: Mundo wrote: On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 09:12:45 -0500, katy wrote (in article ): Charlie Morgan wrote: On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 08:09:33 -0500, katy wrote: I do know about tropical rainforests and it is a much simpler task to fix This is unequivocal proof that you haven't a clue about tropical rainforests. CWM In regards to growing new rainforests? Yes..in respect to keeping the ones that exist...no....and you have no clue as to what I do or do not know... Chiming in from a timber farming area... New will never replace old growth in our lifetimes. Here they get a marketable product about every 25-30 years. These trees are a 1/5 of the size of "Old Growth". In the Rain forests the indigenous tribes are split up and given christianity for hope... Unbelievable. The animals are forced into ever confining spaces etc. No we must just go ahead and enjoy what is left. I plan on using plenty of fossil fuel and tossing my soda cans overboard (torn open of course). All is lost. To late. Nothing left but discussion. Animals adapt or disappear...natural selection... You mean like passenger pigeons? CWM "The Passenger Pigeon is now extinct. Yeah, the damned things couldn't adapt to being shot full of holes. Adapt or disappear... natural selection. You are living proof that evolution doesn't always work that well. CWM Humanity is proof of that...we keep finding more and more artificial ways to keep ourselves going when we should just let oursleves go naturally... |
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"Edgar" wrote in message ... "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... How so? We're polluting our environment by cutting down the forest and by burning the vegatation. That produces greenhouse gasses, which contributes to the global warming. In addition, the lack of trees reduces the possible absorbtion of those very gasses. Look it up if you're not too scared. _We_ are not doing it. Greedy beef barons are doing it by giving the people free chainsaws and rewarding them for cutting down trees so the former forest becomes grassland before the topsoil finally goes. The mahogany trees that are easy to move get to become fine furniture and boats. The ones in difficult locations are burned or just left to rot. I have seen students in Uk protesting that 'mahogany is murder' but they have the wrong target. If you want to help the planet do not buy beef that comes from Brazil. True enough. I think we're not doing enough to help, but we're not doing it directly, as Katy pointed out I believe. The major problem is that 3rd world nations want to rise and that the only thing they have marketable to the world is their natural resources...or tourism and that brings about a whole new host of environmental ills... |
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On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 19:59:25 +0100, "Edgar" wrote: "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... How so? We're polluting our environment by cutting down the forest and by burning the vegatation. That produces greenhouse gasses, which contributes to the global warming. In addition, the lack of trees reduces the possible absorbtion of those very gasses. Look it up if you're not too scared. _We_ are not doing it. Greedy beef barons are doing it by giving the people free chainsaws and rewarding them for cutting down trees so the former forest becomes grassland before the topsoil finally goes. The mahogany trees that are easy to move get to become fine furniture and boats. The ones in difficult locations are burned or just left to rot. I have seen students in Uk protesting that 'mahogany is murder' but they have the wrong target. If you want to help the planet do not buy beef that comes from Brazil. And that includes Burger KIng! CWM I never can understand why the US has to import beef (except for the political implications)...we need someone like Ronald Reagan and his AMerica first ideals back in the WHite House... |
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On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 11:03:06 -0800, "Capt. JG" said: frozen tundra or the swamps of Florida You need to join Charlie in getting out and around a bit. Who? Charlie. The guy who thinks all Texans are illiterate 'cause they talk funny. Jus casue ya cain't talk don't mean ya cain't read.... |
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On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 11:03:06 -0800, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Dave" wrote in message . .. On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 09:50:23 -0800, "Capt. JG" said: frozen tundra or the swamps of Florida You need to join Charlie in getting out and around a bit. Who? I think he's referring to a French Poodle in a rather famous novel about traveling, except he spelled it incorrectly. I imagine even French Poodles are more worldly than Dave. CWM My standard poodle is not worldly at all...he is quite satisfied with his life and asks for nothing more...and he's almost as well traveled as Steinbeck's dog... |
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"katy" wrote in message ... Or, god forbid, he's actually being honest unlike Cheney who wasn't born with that ability. U'm not a particular fan of either GW or Cheney so it doens't make any difference to me...or for that matter, Bill Clinton..I'm gonna jump on the Ralph Nader bandwagon... Well, that really was just a vote for the Bushco crowd last time. That's why I hope Giuliani gets the nomination...a vote for Nader is a vote for Giuliani! |
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Or, god forbid, he's actually being honest unlike Cheney who wasn't born with that ability. U'm not a particular fan of either GW or Cheney so it doens't make any difference to me...or for that matter, Bill Clinton..I'm gonna jump on the Ralph Nader bandwagon... Well, that really was just a vote for the Bushco crowd last time. No it was a vote for Nader. What is with Democrats saying that they didn't so much lose to Bush as get screwed bby Nader. If the Dems could have gotten a good strong candidate then they would have won the election. Instead they choose these non-threatening kind of wussy little guys. Americans don't like that. Americans like tough guys. As much of an Environmentalist as I am I could not bring myself to vote for Kerry. He is too much of a giant "V" for me. I don't think I am alone in this thinking. Democrats like that sort of guy and so I will never be a Democrat. What we really need to do is ditch the 2 party system...I say go back to a Parliament...with a Prime minister rather than a President...gets rid of the whole popular vite vs electoral college vote dillema and makes it so that other opinions can be heard in government..also allows for the common man to have a chance to stand for his cimmunity...we'd have to ditch the House of Lords concept and keep the Senate intact but change the way the House functions.. |
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On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 14:50:05 -0500, katy wrote: Charlie Morgan wrote: On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 13:08:11 -0500, katy wrote: Charlie Morgan wrote: On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 11:18:36 -0500, katy wrote: Mundo wrote: On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 09:12:45 -0500, katy wrote (in article ): Charlie Morgan wrote: On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 08:09:33 -0500, katy wrote: I do know about tropical rainforests and it is a much simpler task to fix This is unequivocal proof that you haven't a clue about tropical rainforests. CWM In regards to growing new rainforests? Yes..in respect to keeping the ones that exist...no....and you have no clue as to what I do or do not know... Chiming in from a timber farming area... New will never replace old growth in our lifetimes. Here they get a marketable product about every 25-30 years. These trees are a 1/5 of the size of "Old Growth". In the Rain forests the indigenous tribes are split up and given christianity for hope... Unbelievable. The animals are forced into ever confining spaces etc. No we must just go ahead and enjoy what is left. I plan on using plenty of fossil fuel and tossing my soda cans overboard (torn open of course). All is lost. To late. Nothing left but discussion. Animals adapt or disappear...natural selection... You mean like passenger pigeons? CWM "The Passenger Pigeon is now extinct. Yeah, the damned things couldn't adapt to being shot full of holes. Adapt or disappear... natural selection. You are living proof that evolution doesn't always work that well. CWM Humanity is proof of that...we keep finding more and more artificial ways to keep ourselves going when we should just let oursleves go naturally... Well, I agree you have "let yourself go". CWM You don't know me.... |
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On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 14:58:06 -0500, katy wrote: Charlie Morgan wrote: On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 19:59:25 +0100, "Edgar" wrote: "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... How so? We're polluting our environment by cutting down the forest and by burning the vegatation. That produces greenhouse gasses, which contributes to the global warming. In addition, the lack of trees reduces the possible absorbtion of those very gasses. Look it up if you're not too scared. _We_ are not doing it. Greedy beef barons are doing it by giving the people free chainsaws and rewarding them for cutting down trees so the former forest becomes grassland before the topsoil finally goes. The mahogany trees that are easy to move get to become fine furniture and boats. The ones in difficult locations are burned or just left to rot. I have seen students in Uk protesting that 'mahogany is murder' but they have the wrong target. If you want to help the planet do not buy beef that comes from Brazil. And that includes Burger KIng! CWM I never can understand why the US has to import beef (except for the political implications)...we need someone like Ronald Reagan and his AMerica first ideals back in the WHite House... Dead guys make lousy Presidents, although recently the minimum standards for the job have been lowered substantially. CWM optimal word..."like".... |
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On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 15:00:47 -0500, katy wrote: Charlie Morgan wrote: On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 11:03:06 -0800, "Capt. JG" wrote: "Dave" wrote in message m... On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 09:50:23 -0800, "Capt. JG" said: frozen tundra or the swamps of Florida You need to join Charlie in getting out and around a bit. Who? I think he's referring to a French Poodle in a rather famous novel about traveling, except he spelled it incorrectly. I imagine even French Poodles are more worldly than Dave. CWM My standard poodle is not worldly at all...he is quite satisfied with his life and asks for nothing more...and he's almost as well traveled as Steinbeck's dog... Sounds like a fairly sub-standard poodle to me. He's more worldly than Dave, regardless. CWM not sub-standard at all...in fact, quite the looker and did well in the show ring...he is a bit of the fairy though...as most dogs are not very discriminate about who's tush they smell...he'd probably even like yours... |
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"katy" wrote You don't know me.... Do you wear diapers like that poor astronaut? She sure musta been some jealous of that other woman.... Cheers, Ellen |
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"Charlie Morgan" wrote Dead guys make lousy Presidents, .... That's why Kerry lost. lol Cheers, Ellen |
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Charlie Morgan wrote:
On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 15:09:18 -0500, katy wrote: Humanity is proof of that...we keep finding more and more artificial ways to keep ourselves going when we should just let oursleves go naturally... Well, I agree you have "let yourself go". CWM You don't know me.... You've been watching to many Jerry Springer re-runs. CWM Who's Jerry Springer? |
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What we really need to do is ditch the 2 party system...
katy as much as I dissagree with your other points of view I am right here with you on this one. I hate politicians mostly because they have the current system so well rigged that anybody that has enough brains, moral integrity and the guts to do anything right will never get elected. We need some sort of a political revolution to get things back on track and into the hands of the American people again. Bill -- Message posted via BoatKB.com http://www.boatkb.com/Uwe/Forums.asp...iling/200702/1 |
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... Charlie Morgan wrote: On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 14:50:05 -0500, katy wrote: Charlie Morgan wrote: On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 13:08:11 -0500, katy wrote: Charlie Morgan wrote: On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 11:18:36 -0500, katy wrote: Mundo wrote: On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 09:12:45 -0500, katy wrote (in article ): Charlie Morgan wrote: On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 08:09:33 -0500, katy wrote: I do know about tropical rainforests and it is a much simpler task to fix This is unequivocal proof that you haven't a clue about tropical rainforests. CWM In regards to growing new rainforests? Yes..in respect to keeping the ones that exist...no....and you have no clue as to what I do or do not know... Chiming in from a timber farming area... New will never replace old growth in our lifetimes. Here they get a marketable product about every 25-30 years. These trees are a 1/5 of the size of "Old Growth". In the Rain forests the indigenous tribes are split up and given christianity for hope... Unbelievable. The animals are forced into ever confining spaces etc. No we must just go ahead and enjoy what is left. I plan on using plenty of fossil fuel and tossing my soda cans overboard (torn open of course). All is lost. To late. Nothing left but discussion. Animals adapt or disappear...natural selection... You mean like passenger pigeons? CWM "The Passenger Pigeon is now extinct. Yeah, the damned things couldn't adapt to being shot full of holes. Adapt or disappear... natural selection. You are living proof that evolution doesn't always work that well. CWM Humanity is proof of that...we keep finding more and more artificial ways to keep ourselves going when we should just let oursleves go naturally... Well, I agree you have "let yourself go". CWM You don't know me.... You're a very lucky woman! -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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... Capt. JG wrote: "Edgar" wrote in message ... "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... How so? We're polluting our environment by cutting down the forest and by burning the vegatation. That produces greenhouse gasses, which contributes to the global warming. In addition, the lack of trees reduces the possible absorbtion of those very gasses. Look it up if you're not too scared. _We_ are not doing it. Greedy beef barons are doing it by giving the people free chainsaws and rewarding them for cutting down trees so the former forest becomes grassland before the topsoil finally goes. The mahogany trees that are easy to move get to become fine furniture and boats. The ones in difficult locations are burned or just left to rot. I have seen students in Uk protesting that 'mahogany is murder' but they have the wrong target. If you want to help the planet do not buy beef that comes from Brazil. True enough. I think we're not doing enough to help, but we're not doing it directly, as Katy pointed out I believe. The major problem is that 3rd world nations want to rise and that the only thing they have marketable to the world is their natural resources...or tourism and that brings about a whole new host of environmental ills... Eco-tourism is actually a highly profitable enterprise. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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... On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 11:03:06 -0800, "Capt. JG" said: frozen tundra or the swamps of Florida You need to join Charlie in getting out and around a bit. Who? Charlie. The guy who thinks all Texans are illiterate 'cause they talk funny. Ah... plonked him a long time ago. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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... scbafreak via BoatKB.com wrote: Or, god forbid, he's actually being honest unlike Cheney who wasn't born with that ability. U'm not a particular fan of either GW or Cheney so it doens't make any difference to me...or for that matter, Bill Clinton..I'm gonna jump on the Ralph Nader bandwagon... Well, that really was just a vote for the Bushco crowd last time. No it was a vote for Nader. What is with Democrats saying that they didn't so much lose to Bush as get screwed bby Nader. If the Dems could have gotten a good strong candidate then they would have won the election. Instead they choose these non-threatening kind of wussy little guys. Americans don't like that. Americans like tough guys. As much of an Environmentalist as I am I could not bring myself to vote for Kerry. He is too much of a giant "V" for me. I don't think I am alone in this thinking. Democrats like that sort of guy and so I will never be a Democrat. What we really need to do is ditch the 2 party system...I say go back to a Parliament...with a Prime minister rather than a President...gets rid of the whole popular vite vs electoral college vote dillema and makes it so that other opinions can be heard in government..also allows for the common man to have a chance to stand for his cimmunity...we'd have to ditch the House of Lords concept and keep the Senate intact but change the way the House functions.. I don't think I like this idea... you're right about the 2-party system... we just need reasonable 3rd party candidates... Nader wasn't one, and in my opinion it was a throw-away vote. I don't know if it would have made a difference in the last pres. election, but it didn't help and look who we got. I voted for Kerry/Edwards, but was never highly impressed with Kerry. The lesser of two evils was my reasoning. However, now we have a chance to vote for Hillary or McCain. I don't think Obama is quite ready yet... another 8 years, then.... g -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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... Capt. JG wrote: "katy" wrote in message ... Or, god forbid, he's actually being honest unlike Cheney who wasn't born with that ability. U'm not a particular fan of either GW or Cheney so it doens't make any difference to me...or for that matter, Bill Clinton..I'm gonna jump on the Ralph Nader bandwagon... Well, that really was just a vote for the Bushco crowd last time. That's why I hope Giuliani gets the nomination...a vote for Nader is a vote for Giuliani! He's pro choice... I don't like him much for other reasons, and he has a lot of baggage, but he's better than the current officeholder. I know that's not saying much... g -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Capt. JG wrote:
"katy" wrote in message ... Charlie Morgan wrote: On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 14:50:05 -0500, katy wrote: Charlie Morgan wrote: On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 13:08:11 -0500, katy wrote: Charlie Morgan wrote: On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 11:18:36 -0500, katy wrote: Mundo wrote: On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 09:12:45 -0500, katy wrote (in article ): Charlie Morgan wrote: On Wed, 07 Feb 2007 08:09:33 -0500, katy wrote: I do know about tropical rainforests and it is a much simpler task to fix This is unequivocal proof that you haven't a clue about tropical rainforests. CWM In regards to growing new rainforests? Yes..in respect to keeping the ones that exist...no....and you have no clue as to what I do or do not know... Chiming in from a timber farming area... New will never replace old growth in our lifetimes. Here they get a marketable product about every 25-30 years. These trees are a 1/5 of the size of "Old Growth". In the Rain forests the indigenous tribes are split up and given christianity for hope... Unbelievable. The animals are forced into ever confining spaces etc. No we must just go ahead and enjoy what is left. I plan on using plenty of fossil fuel and tossing my soda cans overboard (torn open of course). All is lost. To late. Nothing left but discussion. Animals adapt or disappear...natural selection... You mean like passenger pigeons? CWM "The Passenger Pigeon is now extinct. Yeah, the damned things couldn't adapt to being shot full of holes. Adapt or disappear... natural selection. You are living proof that evolution doesn't always work that well. CWM Humanity is proof of that...we keep finding more and more artificial ways to keep ourselves going when we should just let oursleves go naturally... Well, I agree you have "let yourself go". CWM You don't know me.... You're a very lucky woman! Yes, I am.... |
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Capt. JG wrote:
"katy" wrote in message ... Capt. JG wrote: "Edgar" wrote in message ... "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... How so? We're polluting our environment by cutting down the forest and by burning the vegatation. That produces greenhouse gasses, which contributes to the global warming. In addition, the lack of trees reduces the possible absorbtion of those very gasses. Look it up if you're not too scared. _We_ are not doing it. Greedy beef barons are doing it by giving the people free chainsaws and rewarding them for cutting down trees so the former forest becomes grassland before the topsoil finally goes. The mahogany trees that are easy to move get to become fine furniture and boats. The ones in difficult locations are burned or just left to rot. I have seen students in Uk protesting that 'mahogany is murder' but they have the wrong target. If you want to help the planet do not buy beef that comes from Brazil. True enough. I think we're not doing enough to help, but we're not doing it directly, as Katy pointed out I believe. The major problem is that 3rd world nations want to rise and that the only thing they have marketable to the world is their natural resources...or tourism and that brings about a whole new host of environmental ills... Eco-tourism is actually a highly profitable enterprise. Wxcept mist isn't eco but economically based...look at teh snafi going on right now at Victoria Falls about the elephant crossing...the suggestion that the elephants, after years and years and uears of implanted memory. will acutally use a man made vrossing somewhere else is ludicrous... |
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Capt. JG wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message ... On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 11:03:06 -0800, "Capt. JG" said: frozen tundra or the swamps of Florida You need to join Charlie in getting out and around a bit. Who? Charlie. The guy who thinks all Texans are illiterate 'cause they talk funny. Ah... plonked him a long time ago. You mean Jerry Springer? |
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We need
some sort of a political revolution to get things back on track and into the hands of the American people again. Ah, yes. Victims of the world, unite! What victims are you talking about? I don't think anybody is a victim and should not make excuses for anything. What I am saying is that the Government has way too much control over our daily lives and are constantly meddling in things that are non of their damn bussiness. The constitution does not say that all people are entitled to any welfare, medicare, free money or social programs paid for at the expense of taxpayers or any protection from their own excuses and failures. We do it though because the current system, which is not the same system we started with, gets votes for these things. You get votes for saying that it's not your fault you have no savings or job so here is some money. My idea of a political revolution makes it possible to vote for someone that is not into that crap. You couldn't run for president and win if you don't follow the same exact principles as the Democratic party or Republican party. If you want to do what is in the peope best interest but not the parties interest you will never be president. That has nothing to do with victims or saying we need to help all of the people that don't help themselves. -- Message posted via BoatKB.com http://www.boatkb.com/Uwe/Forums.asp...iling/200702/1 |
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