On Thu, 4 Jan 2007 20:08:14 -0500, Ellen MacArthur wrote
(in article ews.net):


"Mundo" wrote

Obviously it does not get rid of the swells but it keeps the wind from
blowing the crests over resulting in a rush of white water.

It's Ellen and your wrong. Didn't you read the post called *the truth
about oil
calming the seas*. Didn't you read where it talked about breaking waves in an

oil
slick. Duh!
Here it is again in case you never saw the post or your newsreader never

posted it.
http://response.restoration.noaa.gov...2_OilatSea.pdf

Cheers,
Ellen



Unlike you..... I have actually been there

--
Mundo, The Captain who is a bully and an ass

"Mundo" wrote
Unlike you..... I have actually been there

And, what's that supposed to mean?

Cheers,
Ellen

On Thu, 4 Jan 2007 20:22:17 -0500, Ellen MacArthur wrote
(in article ews.net):


"Mundo" wrote
Unlike you..... I have actually been there

And, what's that supposed to mean?

Cheers,
Ellen



Well I guess it means I am correct and your not bad at looking up internet
resources.

--
Mundo, The Captain who is a bully and an ass

"Mundo" wrote
Well I guess it means I am correct and your not bad at looking up internet
resources.
--
Mundo, The Captain who's a wuss and an a pain in the ass

This guy says he's right when a paper that defines oil slicks says he's wrong.
Big ego but not much brain power.....

Cheers,
Ellen

On Fri, 5 Jan 2007 11:07:50 -0500, Ellen MacArthur wrote
(in article ews.net):

Mundo, The Captain

This guy is right when a paper that defines oil slicks is
wrong. Big ego supported by much brain power.....

Cheers, Capt. Neil

The Key word being "Captain".

--
Mundo, The Captain who is a bully and an ass

"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in
reenews.net:


"otnmbrd" wrote
I don't think it's still required, but when I first started sailing a
"Storm Oil" container was part of the lifeboat equipment. The oil
itself was either fish oil or vegetable oil and carried in a conical
container with petcocks at either end. This container was inserted
into the sea anchor which was also cone shaped with the apex cut out
to accept it. Never had to try it, but the affect was supposedly to
calm the surface of the seas you were encountering (as someone else
has said). Was actually on one ship which had a "storm oil" tank
located in the bow which was piped to drain over the side.
BTW, fish oil is still in use and acceptable (needs to be certified
"pure") though mainly used to lubricate and to a degree maintain,
anchor chain.

Still believe in utter nonsense now that your older, OTN?
All ya have to do is think, man. The wind builds up large seas.
They get big enough
the wind causes the crests to topple over. Stopping the wind is the
only way to make the seas go down. A little oil spread in a local area
only makes the surface smoother. It doesn't do anything about the size
of the waves. Duh! It's the size of the waves that makes them break.
Not the ripples and ruffles on the surface.
Oil doesn't calm the seas. Oil only smooths the surface of the
seas.

Your reading comprehension still sucks

otn

"Mundo" wrote
Well I guess it means I am correct and your not bad at looking up
internet
resources.
--
Mundo, The Captain who's a wuss and an a pain in the ass

This guy says he's right when a paper that defines oil slicks says
he's wrong.
Big ego but not much brain power.....

Cheers,
Ellen

Its pretty easy to turn any situation into a holier than thou argument, and
surely with the amount of misinformation available on the web you can easily
prove your case whichever way you choose to swing.

For myself, even in situations where i think myself well informed, even in
situations where i have actual relevant experience, i choose to keep my
mouth closed and my mind and ears open. In the final analysis, weighing up
all the evidence for and against it is often possible to come away with a
bit of knowledge you didn't have before. In the case of some rare
individuals its even possible to transcend that common western scientific
approach of 'A is right, therefore B must be wrong' and approach the holy
grail of multiple conflicting truths.

In the case of oil, its a bit of a funny one. Logic, and logical accounts
ive read of its use point to it being just a bit of nonsense. The personal
writings of old time captains with whole lifetimes spent at sea however
seems to contradict that. We have to bear in mind that people also used to
believe that the earth was flat, but even if this whole idea of oil calming
seas is wrong, it would be nice to understand how people so experienced
could come to believe it had merit.

let's not underestimate the value of a placebo if that be the case....

Shaun

Charlie Morgan wrote:
On Sat, 06 Jan 2007 07:27:04 GMT, "Shaun Van Poecke"
wrote:


"Mundo" wrote

Well I guess it means I am correct and your not bad at looking up
internet
resources.
--
Mundo, The Captain who's a wuss and an a pain in the ass

This guy says he's right when a paper that defines oil slicks says
he's wrong.
Big ego but not much brain power.....

Cheers,
Ellen

Its pretty easy to turn any situation into a holier than thou argument, and
surely with the amount of misinformation available on the web you can easily
prove your case whichever way you choose to swing.

For myself, even in situations where i think myself well informed, even in
situations where i have actual relevant experience, i choose to keep my
mouth closed and my mind and ears open. In the final analysis, weighing up
all the evidence for and against it is often possible to come away with a
bit of knowledge you didn't have before. In the case of some rare
individuals its even possible to transcend that common western scientific
approach of 'A is right, therefore B must be wrong' and approach the holy
grail of multiple conflicting truths.

In the case of oil, its a bit of a funny one. Logic, and logical accounts
ive read of its use point to it being just a bit of nonsense. The personal
writings of old time captains with whole lifetimes spent at sea however
seems to contradict that. We have to bear in mind that people also used to
believe that the earth was flat, but even if this whole idea of oil calming
seas is wrong, it would be nice to understand how people so experienced
could come to believe it had merit.

let's not underestimate the value of a placebo if that be the case....

Shaun



When I hove-to in my boat, there is a slick on one side of the boat, but no oil
is involved.

CWM

TMI....
have you been on vacation somewhere? Sailing?

Charlie Morgan wrote:
On Sat, 06 Jan 2007 22:36:53 -0500, katy wrote:


Charlie Morgan wrote:

On Sat, 06 Jan 2007 07:27:04 GMT, "Shaun Van Poecke"
wrote:



"Mundo" wrote


Well I guess it means I am correct and your not bad at looking up
internet
resources.
--
Mundo, The Captain who's a wuss and an a pain in the ass

This guy says he's right when a paper that defines oil slicks says
he's wrong.
Big ego but not much brain power.....

Cheers,
Ellen

Its pretty easy to turn any situation into a holier than thou argument, and
surely with the amount of misinformation available on the web you can easily
prove your case whichever way you choose to swing.

For myself, even in situations where i think myself well informed, even in
situations where i have actual relevant experience, i choose to keep my
mouth closed and my mind and ears open. In the final analysis, weighing up
all the evidence for and against it is often possible to come away with a
bit of knowledge you didn't have before. In the case of some rare
individuals its even possible to transcend that common western scientific
approach of 'A is right, therefore B must be wrong' and approach the holy
grail of multiple conflicting truths.

In the case of oil, its a bit of a funny one. Logic, and logical accounts
ive read of its use point to it being just a bit of nonsense. The personal
writings of old time captains with whole lifetimes spent at sea however
seems to contradict that. We have to bear in mind that people also used to
believe that the earth was flat, but even if this whole idea of oil calming
seas is wrong, it would be nice to understand how people so experienced
could come to believe it had merit.

let's not underestimate the value of a placebo if that be the case....

Shaun



When I hove-to in my boat, there is a slick on one side of the boat, but no oil
is involved.

CWM


TMI....
have you been on vacation somewhere? Sailing?


Try it sometime. A slick doesn't have to involve anything but water. But then,
you knew that, Katy. :^)

Haven't been on vacation. I've been doing a little sailing in OPB. It was almost
70 degrees here yesterday. I saw a dogwood tree in full bloom. If the fruit
trees follow, and then it finally freezes, there won't be many apples around
here next fall.

My news provider is in the midst of a huge upgrade and relocation that hasn't
gone very smoothly. Hopefully they will get it all ironed out soon. They started
a little over a week ago.

CWM

Yeah..it's more like a Florida witer here than a VA winter...I heard a
male robin singing his spring song yesterday...hope no females take him
up on it...come February and some cold weather and all the little
fledglings will freeze...and I wonder too about the migration
birds...hope it's light and not temps that triggers their return trips
north ot there will be a lot of dead and starved songbirds out there...

On Sun, 7 Jan 2007 10:52:20 -0500, katy wrote
(in article ):

Charlie Morgan wrote:
On Sat, 06 Jan 2007 22:36:53 -0500, katy wrote:


Charlie Morgan wrote:

On Sat, 06 Jan 2007 07:27:04 GMT, "Shaun Van Poecke"
wrote:



"Mundo" wrote


Well I guess it means I am correct and your not bad at looking up
internet
resources.
--
Mundo, The Captain who's a wuss and an a pain in the ass

This guy says he's right when a paper that defines oil slicks says
he's wrong.
Big ego but not much brain power.....

Cheers,
Ellen

Its pretty easy to turn any situation into a holier than thou argument,
and
surely with the amount of misinformation available on the web you can
easily
prove your case whichever way you choose to swing.

For myself, even in situations where i think myself well informed, even
in
situations where i have actual relevant experience, i choose to keep my
mouth closed and my mind and ears open. In the final analysis, weighing
up
all the evidence for and against it is often possible to come away with
a
bit of knowledge you didn't have before. In the case of some rare
individuals its even possible to transcend that common western
scientific
approach of 'A is right, therefore B must be wrong' and approach the
holy
grail of multiple conflicting truths.

In the case of oil, its a bit of a funny one. Logic, and logical
accounts
ive read of its use point to it being just a bit of nonsense. The
personal
writings of old time captains with whole lifetimes spent at sea however
seems to contradict that. We have to bear in mind that people also used
to
believe that the earth was flat, but even if this whole idea of oil
calming
seas is wrong, it would be nice to understand how people so experienced
could come to believe it had merit.

let's not underestimate the value of a placebo if that be the case....

Shaun



When I hove-to in my boat, there is a slick on one side of the boat, but
no oil
is involved.

CWM


TMI....
have you been on vacation somewhere? Sailing?


Try it sometime. A slick doesn't have to involve anything but water. But
then,
you knew that, Katy. :^)

Haven't been on vacation. I've been doing a little sailing in OPB. It was
almost
70 degrees here yesterday. I saw a dogwood tree in full bloom. If the fruit
trees follow, and then it finally freezes, there won't be many apples around
here next fall.

My news provider is in the midst of a huge upgrade and relocation that
hasn't
gone very smoothly. Hopefully they will get it all ironed out soon. They
started
a little over a week ago.

CWM

Yeah..it's more like a Florida witer here than a VA winter...I heard a
male robin singing his spring song yesterday...hope no females take him
up on it...come February and some cold weather and all the little
fledglings will freeze...and I wonder too about the migration
birds...hope it's light and not temps that triggers their return trips
north ot there will be a lot of dead and starved songbirds out there...

All my bulbs are sprouting... got out sailing though on Saturday.

--
Mundo, The Captain who is a bully and an ass