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So you like scrolling down to the bottom of every post you
open? SBV "Maxprop" wrote in message nk.net... "jlrogers±³©" wrote in message news:uNndh.7418 "Maxprop" wrote in message nk.net... "jlrogers±³©" wrote in message t... Top post and save the world some time. Somehow I presumed you were smarter than that. Guess initial impressions can be deceiving. Why do most newsreaders , including Microsoft's "Outlook Express" default to top posting? You've asked politely, so I'll give you a straight answer. I don't know why Outlook Express defaults to top-posting, but I can guess. Most emails are top-posted, so one can assume that when OE was designed, it followed the email convention since it is an email client as well. OE is a very old email client / news reader--even MS has come up with better software in the intervening years. And OE is probably the weakest, least versatile news reader currently available. I use it because it's simple and cheap--it came with my bundled software. If I were serious about Usenet I'd probably invest in one of the better pieces of software, such as Eudora. As for top-posting or bottom-posting, the old adage "when in Rome . . ." applies in spades. It is frustrating, not to mention cumbersome, to have to deal with top-posters when the majority of the regulars in a NG bottom-post. If everyone top-posted, it would conversely be annoying to have someone bottom-posting. Almost everyone here bottom-posts. Jon, you, and a few others persist in top-posting, which makes for absolutely no continuity in reading long threads *unless* the person who responded to your post cuts and pastes your post to the bottom, as I did here. There is no rule governing where you post, just common courtesy. Max |
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Easy enough to tell Jax from Neal. Simplyask either one of them to
explain how "Sails Work?" one is a Newtonian & the other a Bernoulian. Do I really have to explain who is which:^) |
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"Scotty" wrote So you like scrolling down to the bottom of every post you open? Wouldn't have to if you weren't lazy. Because your too lazy to delete what your not discussing your laziness causes work for other people. Rude, inconsiderate, anti-social behavior don't ya think? Cheers, Ellen |
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.. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. ... .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. "Ellen MacArthur" wrote in message reenews.ne t... "Scotty" wrote So you like scrolling down to the bottom of every post you open? Wouldn't have to if you weren't lazy. Because your too lazy to delete what your not discussing your laziness causes work for other people. Rude, inconsiderate, anti-social behavior don't ya think? Cheers, Ellen |
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"Jeff" wrote in message . .. Walt wrote: jlrogers±³© wrote: Why do most newsreaders , including Microsoft's "Outlook Express" default to top posting? Most do not. Only one that I am aware of does. The reason is that it was designed by people ignorant of 30 years of usenet conventions. Fortunately, you can change the configuration and never be accused of being a "top-posting ****wit" again. (not my words, btw) //Walt I hate bottom posters. They are Scum of the Earth! . . . and damned proud of it. g Max |
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"Edgar" wrote in message news:VP-dnS5FnqjeQ-v Well, is it not discourteous to asume that all your readers have such a short attention span that they have to re-read everything from way back so that they can catch up? Also, if they have not been paying attention why should all those who have been have to suffer screenfuls of unsnipped history just to help the lazy ones? If insufficient attention is given to constructive snippage you cannot blame anyone for top posting. Jonathan Ganz always top posts and although I frequently disagree with what he says on non-sailing topics I do always look at what he has to say because it is quick and easy, whereas most of the unsnipped bottom posters get instantly marked 'ignore conversation'. I think you're being disingenuous, Edgar. Many of Jon's posts are one-liners, providing too little to know to whom he is responding, let alone to *what* he is responding. I'm betting you frequently jump to the bottom of the thread when reading his posts to determine those things. And if you truly ignore the bottom posters, you must be reading Jon's posts and maybe one or two others, but no one else's. It is lazy and inconsiderate to make people scroll down a couple of screens just to read something like 'I agree' or 'You are an idiot/gayboy/lubber/sockpuppet/whatever. End of rant- and hey! it was bottom posted after snippage!. You are correct in that snip-editing is courteous. So is bottom-posting when it's the convention in a NG. Max |
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"DSK" wrote in message ... "Maxprop" wrote As for top-posting or bottom-posting, the old adage "when in Rome . . ." Brain-dead conformist! I'll bet you drive on the right when in England, eh? Max |
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"Scotty" wrote in message ... So you like scrolling down to the bottom of every post you open? I knew you were responding to my post, but not which one specifically. So in this case I had to scroll down through a bunch of garbage you should have snipped in order to see my post, and then back up to take another look at your response. You post some on top and some on the bottom. Why? Max |
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"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in message reenews.net... "Scotty" wrote So you like scrolling down to the bottom of every post you open? Wouldn't have to if you weren't lazy. Because your too lazy to delete what your not discussing your laziness causes work for other people. Rude, inconsiderate, anti-social behavior don't ya think? Scotty lazy, rude, inconsiderate and anti-social?? P'shaw. Surely you jest .. . . g Max |
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"Scotty" wrote in message . .. no No what? Max |
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"Maxprop" wrote Scotty lazy, rude, inconsiderate and anti-social?? P'shaw. Surely you jest . . . g roflmao |
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"Maxprop" wrote in message
ink.net... "Edgar" wrote in message news:VP-dnS5FnqjeQ-v Well, is it not discourteous to asume that all your readers have such a short attention span that they have to re-read everything from way back so that they can catch up? Also, if they have not been paying attention why should all those who have been have to suffer screenfuls of unsnipped history just to help the lazy ones? If insufficient attention is given to constructive snippage you cannot blame anyone for top posting. Jonathan Ganz always top posts and although I frequently disagree with what he says on non-sailing topics I do always look at what he has to say because it is quick and easy, whereas most of the unsnipped bottom posters get instantly marked 'ignore conversation'. Well, not always... especially now that I've tweaked the registry to default to bottom posting. :-) I think you're being disingenuous, Edgar. Many of Jon's posts are one-liners, providing too little to know to whom he is responding, let alone to *what* he is responding. I'm betting you frequently jump to the bottom of the thread when reading his posts to determine those things. And if you truly ignore the bottom posters, you must be reading Jon's posts and maybe one or two others, but no one else's. Default is responding to you Max. It is lazy and inconsiderate to make people scroll down a couple of screens just to read something like 'I agree' or 'You are an idiot/gayboy/lubber/sockpuppet/whatever. End of rant- and hey! it was bottom posted after snippage!. You are correct in that snip-editing is courteous. So is bottom-posting when it's the convention in a NG. Max What's the convention here? -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Maxprop" wrote in message ink.net... I think you're being disingenuous, Edgar. Many of Jon's posts are one-liners, providing too little to know to whom he is responding, let alone to *what* he is responding. I'm betting you frequently jump to the bottom of the thread when reading his posts to determine those things. Not often, or at all, unless it is sailing content. The one-liners only get a quick look and marked as read. And if you truly ignore the bottom posters, you must be reading Jon's posts and maybe one or two others, but no one else's. No I do not ignore them and do read most of them. But when the unsnipped stuff gets excessive I give up and hit 'ignore' |
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Don't bother scrolling down to the bottom of this post.
there's nothing worth reading there. Just a rude bottom poster's gibberish. SV "Maxprop" wrote in message ink.net... "Edgar" wrote in message news:VP-dnS5FnqjeQ-v Well, is it not discourteous to asume that all your readers have such a short attention span that they have to re-read everything from way back so that they can catch up? Also, if they have not been paying attention why should all those who have been have to suffer screenfuls of unsnipped history just to help the lazy ones? If insufficient attention is given to constructive snippage you cannot blame anyone for top posting. Jonathan Ganz always top posts and although I frequently disagree with what he says on non-sailing topics I do always look at what he has to say because it is quick and easy, whereas most of the unsnipped bottom posters get instantly marked 'ignore conversation'. I think you're being disingenuous, Edgar. Many of Jon's posts are one-liners, providing too little to know to whom he is responding, let alone to *what* he is responding. I'm betting you frequently jump to the bottom of the thread when reading his posts to determine those things. And if you truly ignore the bottom posters, you must be reading Jon's posts and maybe one or two others, but no one else's. It is lazy and inconsiderate to make people scroll down a couple of screens just to read something like 'I agree' or 'You are an idiot/gayboy/lubber/sockpuppet/whatever. End of rant- and hey! it was bottom posted after snippage!. You are correct in that snip-editing is courteous. So is bottom-posting when it's the convention in a NG. Max |
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Can't follow a thread, huh?
"Maxprop" wrote in message ink.net... "Scotty" wrote in message ... So you like scrolling down to the bottom of every post you open? I knew you were responding to my post, but not which one specifically. So in this case I had to scroll down through a bunch of garbage you should have snipped in order to see my post, and then back up to take another look at your response. You post some on top and some on the bottom. Why? Sometimes it's appropriate. But I usually snip first. Scotty |
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"Maxprop" wrote in message nk.net... Scotty lazy, rude, inconsiderate and anti-social?? P'shaw. Surely you jest . . . g That's what they used to write on my report cards. S |
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Is 'Dazed & Confused' your theme song?
"Maxprop" wrote in message ink.net... "Scotty" wrote in message . .. no No what? Max LZ rules ! |
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When I started posting here, 8 to 10 years ago, most everyone top-posted and
when someone bottom posted it was met with hoots and hollers. Do you have to scroll to the bottom of every message to read the most recent? Even if you have been following the thread for 72 replies? -- jlrogers±³© "Maxprop" wrote in message nk.net... "jlrogers±³©" wrote in message news:uNndh.7418 "Maxprop" wrote in message nk.net... "jlrogers±³©" wrote in message t... Top post and save the world some time. Somehow I presumed you were smarter than that. Guess initial impressions can be deceiving. Why do most newsreaders , including Microsoft's "Outlook Express" default to top posting? You've asked politely, so I'll give you a straight answer. I don't know why Outlook Express defaults to top-posting, but I can guess. Most emails are top-posted, so one can assume that when OE was designed, it followed the email convention since it is an email client as well. OE is a very old email client / news reader--even MS has come up with better software in the intervening years. And OE is probably the weakest, least versatile news reader currently available. I use it because it's simple and cheap--it came with my bundled software. If I were serious about Usenet I'd probably invest in one of the better pieces of software, such as Eudora. As for top-posting or bottom-posting, the old adage "when in Rome . . ." applies in spades. It is frustrating, not to mention cumbersome, to have to deal with top-posters when the majority of the regulars in a NG bottom-post. If everyone top-posted, it would conversely be annoying to have someone bottom-posting. Almost everyone here bottom-posts. Jon, you, and a few others persist in top-posting, which makes for absolutely no continuity in reading long threads *unless* the person who responded to your post cuts and pastes your post to the bottom, as I did here. There is no rule governing where you post, just common courtesy. Max |
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SSFGT-ASAP *
Still though, it is an efficient process to assign tasks and communicate status to a trouble shooter (analyst to you under 40). *Whoever Sends one, wants you to Sort it out, make Sense of it all, Fix it, and Get back to him so he can Take credit, ASAP. -- jlrogers±³© "Martin Baxter" wrote in message ... Edgar wrote: It is lazy and inconsiderate to make people scroll down a couple of screens just to read something like 'I agree' or 'You are an idiot/gayboy/lubber/sockpuppet/whatever. End of rant- and hey! it was bottom posted after snippage!. I like bottom posting, with all the caveats you have outlined. I'ts much more important with emails, IMHO, at least at work. There's very little more annoying than being the 5th person in a chain to get a piece of electronic mail with heading "Can you look into this?" and then having to read each persons input, from the bottom up. Cheers Marty |
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"jlrogers±³©" wrote:
SSFGT-ASAP * Still though, it is an efficient process to assign tasks and communicate status to a trouble shooter (analyst to you under 40). *Whoever Sends one, wants you to Sort it out, make Sense of it all, Fix it, and Get back to him so he can Take credit, ASAP. To me reading a top posted message is rather like reading a book in which the printer has bound the chapters in reverse order. It's do-able, but a royal PITA. Cheers Marty |
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message ... "Maxprop" wrote in message ink.net... "Edgar" wrote in message news:VP-dnS5FnqjeQ-v Well, is it not discourteous to asume that all your readers have such a short attention span that they have to re-read everything from way back so that they can catch up? Also, if they have not been paying attention why should all those who have been have to suffer screenfuls of unsnipped history just to help the lazy ones? If insufficient attention is given to constructive snippage you cannot blame anyone for top posting. Jonathan Ganz always top posts and although I frequently disagree with what he says on non-sailing topics I do always look at what he has to say because it is quick and easy, whereas most of the unsnipped bottom posters get instantly marked 'ignore conversation'. Well, not always... especially now that I've tweaked the registry to default to bottom posting. :-) I think you're being disingenuous, Edgar. Many of Jon's posts are one-liners, providing too little to know to whom he is responding, let alone to *what* he is responding. I'm betting you frequently jump to the bottom of the thread when reading his posts to determine those things. And if you truly ignore the bottom posters, you must be reading Jon's posts and maybe one or two others, but no one else's. Default is responding to you Max. It is lazy and inconsiderate to make people scroll down a couple of screens just to read something like 'I agree' or 'You are an idiot/gayboy/lubber/sockpuppet/whatever. End of rant- and hey! it was bottom posted after snippage!. You are correct in that snip-editing is courteous. So is bottom-posting when it's the convention in a NG. Max What's the convention here? Not sure exactly, but I respond to more bottom posters than top posters. Whether they top or bottom post has nothing to do with whether I respond, but it seems I respond to more bottom posters than top. You are the prime exception. Max |
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"Edgar" wrote in message No I do not ignore them and do read most of them. But when the unsnipped stuff gets excessive I give up and hit 'ignore' Same here. Max |
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"Scotty" wrote in message . .. "Maxprop" wrote in message nk.net... Scotty lazy, rude, inconsiderate and anti-social?? P'shaw. Surely you jest . . . g That's what they used to write on my report cards. . . . followed by "wets his pants and refuses to use the restroom." Max |
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"jlrogers±³©" wrote in message et... When I started posting here, 8 to 10 years ago, most everyone top-posted and when someone bottom posted it was met with hoots and hollers. Do you have to scroll to the bottom of every message to read the most recent? Even if you have been following the thread for 72 replies? Go top post on rec.motorcycles.harley and see the response you receive. A bit extreme, to be sure, but it makes my point well. Most people prefer bottom posting. Top posting is lazy, not to mention discontinuous. Max |
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On mine it was, "Jerry talks entirely too much."
-- jlrogers±³© "Scotty" wrote in message . .. "Maxprop" wrote in message nk.net... Scotty lazy, rude, inconsiderate and anti-social?? P'shaw. Surely you jest . . . g That's what they used to write on my report cards. S |
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"jlrogers±³©" wrote in message et... When I started posting here, 8 to 10 years ago, most everyone top-posted and when someone bottom posted it was met with hoots and hollers. Do you have to scroll to the bottom of every message to read the most recent? Even if you have been following the thread for 72 replies? -- jlrogers±³© "Maxprop" wrote in message nk.net... "jlrogers±³©" wrote in message news:uNndh.7418 "Maxprop" wrote in message nk.net... "jlrogers±³©" wrote in message t... Top post and save the world some time. Somehow I presumed you were smarter than that. Guess initial impressions can be deceiving. Why do most newsreaders , including Microsoft's "Outlook Express" default to top posting? You've asked politely, so I'll give you a straight answer. I don't know why Outlook Express defaults to top-posting, but I can guess. Most emails are top-posted, so one can assume that when OE was designed, it followed the email convention since it is an email client as well. OE is a very old email client / news reader--even MS has come up with better software in the intervening years. And OE is probably the weakest, least versatile news reader currently available. I use it because it's simple and cheap--it came with my bundled software. If I were serious about Usenet I'd probably invest in one of the better pieces of software, such as Eudora. As for top-posting or bottom-posting, the old adage "when in Rome . . ." applies in spades. It is frustrating, not to mention cumbersome, to have to deal with top-posters when the majority of the regulars in a NG bottom-post. If everyone top-posted, it would conversely be annoying to have someone bottom-posting. Almost everyone here bottom-posts. Jon, you, and a few others persist in top-posting, which makes for absolutely no continuity in reading long threads *unless* the person who responded to your post cuts and pastes your post to the bottom, as I did here. There is no rule governing where you post, just common courtesy. Max Yes. Dumb, ain't it? |
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"Maxprop" wrote in message ink.net... Scotty lazy, rude, inconsiderate and anti-social?? P'shaw. Surely you jest . . . g That's what they used to write on my report cards. . . . followed by "wets his pants and refuses to use the restroom." Why would I use the restroom if I already wet my pants? S |
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"Maxprop" wrote in message ink.net... "jlrogers±³©" wrote in message et... When I started posting here, 8 to 10 years ago, most everyone top-posted and when someone bottom posted it was met with hoots and hollers. Harley riders are all idiots to begin with. Scotty Do you have to scroll to the bottom of every message to read the most recent? Even if you have been following the thread for 72 replies? Go top post on rec.motorcycles.harley and see the response you receive. A bit extreme, to be sure, but it makes my point well. Most people prefer bottom posting. Top posting is lazy, not to mention discontinuous. Max |
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On mine it was he should be in the next grade. If not possible, then tell
him to stop arguing with me. "jlrogers±³©" wrote in message et... On mine it was, "Jerry talks entirely too much." -- jlrogers±³© "Scotty" wrote in message . .. "Maxprop" wrote in message nk.net... Scotty lazy, rude, inconsiderate and anti-social?? P'shaw. Surely you jest . . . g That's what they used to write on my report cards. S -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Scotty" wrote in message . .. "Maxprop" wrote in message ink.net... Scotty lazy, rude, inconsiderate and anti-social?? P'shaw. Surely you jest . . . g That's what they used to write on my report cards. . . . followed by "wets his pants and refuses to use the restroom." Why would I use the restroom if I already wet my pants? Indeed. Max |
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"Scotty" wrote in message . .. "Maxprop" wrote in message ink.net... "jlrogers±³©" wrote in message et... When I started posting here, 8 to 10 years ago, most everyone top-posted and when someone bottom posted it was met with hoots and hollers. Harley riders are all idiots to begin with. Scotty Dip**** center poster!! g Max Do you have to scroll to the bottom of every message to read the most recent? Even if you have been following the thread for 72 replies? Go top post on rec.motorcycles.harley and see the response you receive. A bit extreme, to be sure, but it makes my point well. Most people prefer bottom posting. Top posting is lazy, not to mention discontinuous. Max |
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message ... On mine it was he should be in the next grade. If not possible, then tell him to stop arguing with me. You must have peaked about then, eh? Max |
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ink.net... "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... On mine it was he should be in the next grade. If not possible, then tell him to stop arguing with me. You must have peaked about then, eh? Max Now that's ugly. -- jlrogers±³© |
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"Maxprop" wrote in message
ink.net... "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... On mine it was he should be in the next grade. If not possible, then tell him to stop arguing with me. You must have peaked about then, eh? Max I still argue with people... -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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et... "Maxprop" wrote in message ink.net... "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... On mine it was he should be in the next grade. If not possible, then tell him to stop arguing with me. You must have peaked about then, eh? Max Now that's ugly. -- jlrogers±³© But funny... -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Capt. JG wrote:
"Maxprop" wrote in message ink.net... "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... On mine it was he should be in the next grade. If not possible, then tell him to stop arguing with me. You must have peaked about then, eh? Max I still argue with people... Really??? WOuld never have guessed... |
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... Capt. JG wrote: "Maxprop" wrote in message ink.net... "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... On mine it was he should be in the next grade. If not possible, then tell him to stop arguing with me. You must have peaked about then, eh? Max I still argue with people... Really??? WOuld never have guessed... You're too nice to notice. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Scotty" wrote in message ... So you like scrolling down to the bottom of every post you open? SBV Probably not half as much as you enjoy being a NG irritant. g Max |
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"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in message reenews.net... "Scotty" wrote So you like scrolling down to the bottom of every post you open? Wouldn't have to if you weren't lazy. Because your too lazy to delete what your not discussing your laziness causes work for other people. Rude, inconsiderate, anti-social behavior don't ya think? We've already established that about Scotty, Neal. Max |
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