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"DSK" wrote in message
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"Maxprop" wrote | An explosion is nothing more than an extremely rapid
burn.

Ellen MacArthur wrote:
Not quite right (I think).

Yes, it is right.

Here's how I understand it. A burn starts at one end
of the cylinder near the spark plug and goes down towards the top of the
piston. It expands evenly and pushes the piston down. An explosion starts
somewhere in the middle of the fuel/air and pushes outwards really fast
in all directions.

Why would an explosion start in a different place? It originates at the
spark plug, doesn't it?

It wastes energy and is too fast so it knocks against the piston and
sometimes can even blow off a head gasket.

Yes, that's also right.

An explosion isn't really a burn.


Yes it is. Both in the context of internal combustion, and other
circumstances. Dynamite, for example, is a highly combustible substance
that burns very very rapidly.

We used to use an explosive called HDP (2 and 3 pound charges) to control
avalanches (set them off, in actuality) at Breckenridge in the 70s when I
was a pro ski patrolman there. The company that made the charges referred
to HDPs 'burn rate' of 24,000 feet per second. Even primacord has a 'burn
rate' of about 20k feet per second.

This is the first post of Ellen's that seems to dispel the notion that "she"
is actually Neal in verbal drag. Neal would know better.

Max

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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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"Maxprop" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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The hot melted ends are good for cleaning out one's ears. :-)

I personally recommend the pointy end of a scratch awl for that, Jon.

It doesn't have the flexibility to get around the corners..

If it's sharp enough, it doesn't need it.

Max

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"Seahag" wrote in message
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Bah, I figure I've only got about 4-5 left myself.


Pishaw...hatchoo?...


gesundheit



whatever...then just paint the duck
tape.

They make colored duck tape. ( is it OK to say 'colored' )

Scotty

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I personally recommend the pointy end of a scratch awl for that, Jon.


It doesn't have the flexibility to get around the corners..


Maxprop wrote:
If it's sharp enough, it doesn't need it.


Now *that* was funny.

DSK

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Maxprop wrote:
This is the first post of Ellen's that seems to dispel the notion that "she"
is actually Neal in verbal drag. Neal would know better.


Why do you say that? Neal was/is pretty dumb.

FWIW I agree that "Ellen" doesn't seem to be Neal. I wonder
if "she" is one of JAXAshby's old flames.

DSK

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Joe wrote:
Just how far do you think a 4 fold 3/4" nylon is going to stretch ?


Depends on the length & the load.


Ill tell you...maybe 2-4 " in a gust that would put the rail under.


Nylon is still a stupid rope to use for sheets. It's
stretchy, slick, less resistance to chafe, high tendency to
kink & hockle, difficult to handle. The only plus I can
think of is that it's cheap.


I'm not sailing a little trailor sailor ya know. You wanna use spectra
and carbon feel free.

Hey Joe, do you think these are little trailer sailers?

http://www.alfaromeo.com.au/images/s...lenghi-R02.jpg


High dollar line will do no better than nylon

Wrong.

In many cases, and for many people's choices, hi-tech rope
may not be enough better to be worth the extra cost.

DSK

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"DSK" wrote in message
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Nylon is still a stupid rope to use for sheets.

Almost as stupid as welding sheets of steel together and
putting them in water?

SBV

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"Scotty" wrote in message
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"Seahag" wrote in message
...

Bah, I figure I've only got about 4-5 left myself.


Pishaw...hatchoo?...


gesundheit



whatever...then just paint the duck
tape.

They make colored duck tape. ( is it OK to say 'colored' )

Scotty

No. Chromatically diversified is the proper term.

Max
(Director of Political Correctness, Association of Linear Adhesive Fastening
Devices, LLC)

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"DSK" wrote in message
.. .
Maxprop wrote:
This is the first post of Ellen's that seems to dispel the notion that
"she" is actually Neal in verbal drag. Neal would know better.


Why do you say that? Neal was/is pretty dumb.

FWIW I agree that "Ellen" doesn't seem to be Neal. I wonder if "she" is
one of JAXAshby's old flames.

It has been a while since Jax departed. I suppose "she" could be Jax
him/herself, but who knows in this deceptive forum.

Max

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"DSK" wrote in message
.. .

Nylon is still a stupid rope to use for sheets. It's stretchy, slick, less
resistance to chafe, high tendency to kink & hockle, difficult to handle.
The only plus I can think of is that it's cheap.

Even that is relative. The cost per foot of my most recent 5/8" docklines
was roughly the same as 7/16" Sta-Set, which is stronger, if unsuitable for
dock lines.

Max

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Maxprop wrote:
"DSK" wrote in message
.. .

Maxprop wrote:

This is the first post of Ellen's that seems to dispel the notion that
"she" is actually Neal in verbal drag. Neal would know better.


Why do you say that? Neal was/is pretty dumb.

FWIW I agree that "Ellen" doesn't seem to be Neal. I wonder if "she" is
one of JAXAshby's old flames.


It has been a while since Jax departed. I suppose "she" could be Jax
him/herself, but who knows in this deceptive forum.

Max


It's Neal....

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Maxprop wrote:
"DSK" wrote in message

Nylon is still a stupid rope to use for sheets. It's stretchy, slick, less
resistance to chafe, high tendency to kink & hockle, difficult to handle.
The only plus I can think of is that it's cheap.

Even that is relative. The cost per foot of my most recent 5/8" docklines
was roughly the same as 7/16" Sta-Set, which is stronger, if unsuitable for
dock lines.

Right. Nylon's not any cheaper than garden variety polyester. And it's
totally unsuitable for the purposes of a control line. Doug's use of
the word "stupid" is entirely appropriate here.

Sta-set or Samson XLS will be adequate for almost every control line for
recreational sailing, and if that's too expensive you really need to
find another hobby.

I like a polypro/dynema blend for sheets because they don't absorb
water; lines that absorb water can freeze, then they won't run through
the block, and then you capsize. I hate it when that happens.



//Walt

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DSK wrote:
Joe wrote:
Just how far do you think a 4 fold 3/4" nylon is going to stretch ?


Depends on the length & the load.

Brilliant! You are an engineer right?


Ill tell you...maybe 2-4 " in a gust that would put the rail under.


Nylon is still a stupid rope to use for sheets. It's
stretchy,

Stretchy in a short run under a light load


slick,

Slick? you dip your nylon in butter? Spray it with teflon....what?


less resistance to chafe,

Better UV resistence.

high tendency to
kink & hockle,

Well maybe..


difficult to handle.

Never had a problem



The only plus I can
think of is that it's cheap.

Great UV resistance, easy to coil and handle, easy to splice, good
mildew resistance, cheap...


I'm not sailing a little trailor sailor ya know. You wanna use spectra
and carbon feel free.

Hey Joe, do you think these are little trailer sailers?

http://www.alfaromeo.com.au/images/s...lenghi-R02.jpg

Big trailors..and a proper boat for high tech sheets, I dont think
smidgon of stretch in my sheet is going to make a lick of difference
for the type of sailing I do.


High dollar line will do no better than nylon

Wrong.

Why's that Dugboat? How is high dollar line going to improve my
sailing?


In many cases, and for many people's choices, hi-tech rope
may not be enough better to be worth the extra cost.

I heard some American cup boats will only do 25 tacks on a sheet then
they strip them off and toss them over.

Joe

DSK

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Walt wrote:
I like a polypro/dynema blend for sheets because they don't absorb
water; lines that absorb water can freeze, then they won't run through
the block, and then you capsize. I hate it when that happens.


I especially dislike the "clunk" it makes, capsizing into
frozen water.

DSK

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Nylon is still a stupid rope to use for sheets.


Scotty wrote:
Almost as stupid as welding sheets of steel together and
putting them in water?


LOL... maybe so... depends on what else you happen to have
handy. Steel is better to use than some things.

DSK

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Definitely.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"katy" wrote in message
...
Maxprop wrote:
"DSK" wrote in message
.. .

Maxprop wrote:

This is the first post of Ellen's that seems to dispel the notion that
"she" is actually Neal in verbal drag. Neal would know better.


Why do you say that? Neal was/is pretty dumb.

FWIW I agree that "Ellen" doesn't seem to be Neal. I wonder if "she" is
one of JAXAshby's old flames.


It has been a while since Jax departed. I suppose "she" could be Jax
him/herself, but who knows in this deceptive forum.

Max
It's Neal....

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"Scotty" wrote
| Capt J.G. are you really a homosexual?

"Capt. JG" wrote
| Definitely.


He he he he he he! I can't believe it. He's actually coming out of the closet....
They say the road to recovery is knowing who you are to start with. Go for it Jon!

Cheers,
Ellen

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DSK wrote:

Walt wrote:

I like a polypro/dynema blend for sheets because they don't absorb
water; lines that absorb water can freeze, then they won't run through
the block, and then you capsize. I hate it when that happens.

I especially dislike the "clunk" it makes, capsizing into frozen water.

When this happend to me, the water was liquid, but the air temp was
below freezing. So no "clunk", just a splash, followed immediately by
the sort of vocalization you might expect under the circumstances.

//Walt

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"katy" wrote in message
...
Maxprop wrote:
"DSK" wrote in message
.. .

Maxprop wrote:

This is the first post of Ellen's that seems to dispel the notion that
"she" is actually Neal in verbal drag. Neal would know better.


Why do you say that? Neal was/is pretty dumb.

FWIW I agree that "Ellen" doesn't seem to be Neal. I wonder if "she" is
one of JAXAshby's old flames.


It has been a while since Jax departed. I suppose "she" could be Jax
him/herself, but who knows in this deceptive forum.

Max
It's Neal....

If that's true, he's doing a brilliant job of appearing stupid.

Max

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"Walt" wrote in message
...
DSK wrote:

Walt wrote:

I like a polypro/dynema blend for sheets because they don't absorb
water; lines that absorb water can freeze, then they won't run through
the block, and then you capsize. I hate it when that happens.

I especially dislike the "clunk" it makes, capsizing into frozen water.

When this happend to me, the water was liquid, but the air temp was below
freezing. So no "clunk", just a splash, followed immediately by the sort
of vocalization you might expect under the circumstances.

Have you been frostbiting, Walt?

Max

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"Scotty" wrote in message
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"Seahag" wrote in message
...

Bah, I figure I've only got about 4-5 left myself.


Pishaw...hatchoo?...


gesundheit


Thank-you.

whatever...then just paint the duck
tape.

They make colored duck tape. ( is it OK to say 'colored' )


Not sure anymore. If you paint over any tinted duck tape it
will last at least 2 years without delaminating and getting
little bits all over your boat/yard/driveway...

Quack

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Maxprop wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...

Maxprop wrote:

"DSK" wrote in message
t...


Maxprop wrote:


This is the first post of Ellen's that seems to dispel the notion that
"she" is actually Neal in verbal drag. Neal would know better.


Why do you say that? Neal was/is pretty dumb.

FWIW I agree that "Ellen" doesn't seem to be Neal. I wonder if "she" is
one of JAXAshby's old flames.


It has been a while since Jax departed. I suppose "she" could be Jax
him/herself, but who knows in this deceptive forum.

Max

It's Neal....


If that's true, he's doing a brilliant job of appearing stupid.

Max


Hr doesn't have to try very hard....

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"katy" wrote
Hr doesn't have to try very hard....


You should talk.....

Cheers,
Ellen

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Maxprop wrote:

"Walt" wrote
DSK wrote:

I like a polypro/dynema blend for sheets because they don't absorb
water; lines that absorb water can freeze, then they won't run through
the block, and then you capsize. I hate it when that happens.

I especially dislike the "clunk" it makes, capsizing into frozen water.

When this happend to me, the water was liquid, but the air temp was below
freezing. So no "clunk", just a splash, followed immediately by the sort
of vocalization you might expect under the circumstances.


Have you been frostbiting, Walt?

I'm not sure the exact technical definition of that word, but yeah, I
think so. I usually get out on the water the day the lake thaws.
Sometimes there's still ice floating around. Does that count?

//Walt

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I especially dislike the "clunk" it makes, capsizing into frozen water.


Walt wrote:
When this happend to me, the water was liquid, but the air temp was
below freezing. So no "clunk", just a splash, followed immediately
by the sort of vocalization you might expect under the circumstances.


Lucky you could vocalize. Being under water changes that, as
does the near-intantaneous onset of hypothermia (paralyzes
the diaphragm & chest muscles).

I have not had sheet freeze to the block, but have had spray
freeze on the sails and winches freeze in place. Different
set of challenges. I prefer frostbiting in a small boat like
a JY-15 or Laser, in a nice warm wetsuit.




Have you been frostbiting, Walt?


Walt wrote:
I'm not sure the exact technical definition of that word, but yeah, I
think so. I usually get out on the water the day the lake thaws.
Sometimes there's still ice floating around. Does that count?


Yep.

No iceboating, up your way?

DSK

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DSK wrote:
Walt wrote:

When this happend to me, the water was liquid, but the air temp was
below freezing. So no "clunk", just a splash, followed immediately
by the sort of vocalization you might expect under the circumstances.

I have not had sheet freeze to the block, but have had spray freeze on
the sails and winches freeze in place.

It didn't freeze to the block, it just froze in the coiled position and
wouldn't run through the block due to the frozen bend.


I prefer frostbiting in a small boat like a JY-15 or Laser, in a nice warm
wetsuit.

I prefer my frostbiting in something a little drier, thank you. But I
have frostbited in a JY.


No iceboating, up your way?

You mean hard water sailing, in contrast to the soft water sailing we do
in the summer.

Ever hear of the DN class? I'm sure you're aware of the fact that it
stands for Detroit News, who sponsored the design competition that
resulted in the DN. Let's just say I'm in the armpit of the iceboating
world. (c:

Our club has an Arrow (basically a 2 person version of the DN), but I
haven't tried it yet. I'm afaid that I might like hard water sailing a
little too much, and it's a damn fickle sport - you need cold, but not
snow, which can be hard to come by.

//Walt

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"Walt" wrote in message
...
Maxprop wrote:

"Walt" wrote
DSK wrote:

I like a polypro/dynema blend for sheets because they don't absorb
water; lines that absorb water can freeze, then they won't run through
the block, and then you capsize. I hate it when that happens.

I especially dislike the "clunk" it makes, capsizing into frozen water.

When this happend to me, the water was liquid, but the air temp was below
freezing. So no "clunk", just a splash, followed immediately by the sort
of vocalization you might expect under the circumstances.


Have you been frostbiting, Walt?

I'm not sure the exact technical definition of that word, but yeah, I
think so. I usually get out on the water the day the lake thaws. Sometimes
there's still ice floating around. Does that count?

I guess so. Frostbiting is early and late season racing, generally in
dinghies, but I believe they call it that with big boats, too.

Max

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"Walt" wrote in message
...

Ever hear of the DN class? I'm sure you're aware of the fact that it
stands for Detroit News, who sponsored the design competition that
resulted in the DN. Let's just say I'm in the armpit of the iceboating
world. (c:

Our club has an Arrow (basically a 2 person version of the DN), but I
haven't tried it yet. I'm afaid that I might like hard water sailing a
little too much, and it's a damn fickle sport - you need cold, but not
snow, which can be hard to come by.

That's the quintessential problem here--we so seldom get black ice that it's
probably not worth owning an iceboat. I once owned a Nite, which is a
two-place, side-by-side one-design racer. It would top out at around
100mph, so some claimed, but I probably never got it above 80, which is
plenty fast. The shore comes up mighty rapidly at those speeds. I sold it
after 6 years, during which we only had a brief period during one winter
which was really premier bare ice. The only other occasions to use it were
questionable, with patches of snow which have the same effect on iceboat
speed as throwing out an anchor.

Max

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"katy" wrote in message
...
Maxprop wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...

Maxprop wrote:

"DSK" wrote in message
et...


Maxprop wrote:


This is the first post of Ellen's that seems to dispel the notion that
"she" is actually Neal in verbal drag. Neal would know better.


Why do you say that? Neal was/is pretty dumb.

FWIW I agree that "Ellen" doesn't seem to be Neal. I wonder if "she" is
one of JAXAshby's old flames.


It has been a while since Jax departed. I suppose "she" could be Jax
him/herself, but who knows in this deceptive forum.

Max

It's Neal....


If that's true, he's doing a brilliant job of appearing stupid.

Max
Hr doesn't have to try very hard....

Neal may be bigoted, obtuse, and deluded, but I'm not convinced he's stupid.

Max

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Maxprop wrote:

Have you been frostbiting, Walt?

I'm not sure the exact technical definition of that word, but yeah, I
think so. I usually get out on the water the day the lake thaws. Sometimes
there's still ice floating around. Does that count?


I guess so. Frostbiting is early and late season racing, generally in
dinghies, but I believe they call it that with big boats, too.

My last day of racing this year was Nov 5th. Dinghys. I was unaware
that racing was part of the definition, but that's covered.

I wasn't sure whether you needed one of these to qualify:
http://www.capecodfrosty.org/

//Walt

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"Walt" wrote
Ever hear of the DN class?

Oh yeah. My one and only excursion into iceboating was in a DN.

Our club has an Arrow (basically a 2 person version of the DN), but I
haven't tried it yet. I'm afaid that I might like hard water sailing a
little too much, and it's a damn fickle sport - you need cold, but not
snow, which can be hard to come by.


Does seem like a bit of a paradox, now that you mention it.
I'm not tempted to try such a climate.


Maxprop wrote:
That's the quintessential problem here--we so seldom get black ice that it's
probably not worth owning an iceboat. I once owned a Nite, which is a
two-place, side-by-side one-design racer. It would top out at around
100mph, so some claimed, but I probably never got it above 80, which is
plenty fast. The shore comes up mighty rapidly at those speeds. I sold it
after 6 years, during which we only had a brief period during one winter
which was really premier bare ice. The only other occasions to use it were
questionable, with patches of snow which have the same effect on iceboat
speed as throwing out an anchor.


My understanding is that soft patches & snow can be pretty
bad, although the thing to *really* look out for is
port-tackers cleaning their goggles. A capsize isn't so bad
if you don't mind sliding on ice.

I had fun sailing the DN but got too cold to stick with it
for long. I also declined the opportunity to join a race,
since it was obvious I'd get badly waxed and only delay
everybody.

DSK

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Maxprop wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...

Maxprop wrote:

"katy" wrote in message
...


Maxprop wrote:


"DSK" wrote in message
. net...



Maxprop wrote:



This is the first post of Ellen's that seems to dispel the notion that
"she" is actually Neal in verbal drag. Neal would know better.


Why do you say that? Neal was/is pretty dumb.

FWIW I agree that "Ellen" doesn't seem to be Neal. I wonder if "she" is
one of JAXAshby's old flames.


It has been a while since Jax departed. I suppose "she" could be Jax
him/herself, but who knows in this deceptive forum.

Max

It's Neal....


If that's true, he's doing a brilliant job of appearing stupid.

Max

Hr doesn't have to try very hard....


Neal may be bigoted, obtuse, and deluded, but I'm not convinced he's stupid.

Max


He's pretending to be Ellen...how smart is that?

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Now that's funny!

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"katy" wrote in message
...
Maxprop wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...

Maxprop wrote:

"katy" wrote in message
...


Maxprop wrote:


"DSK" wrote in message
.net...



Maxprop wrote:



This is the first post of Ellen's that seems to dispel the notion
that "she" is actually Neal in verbal drag. Neal would know better.


Why do you say that? Neal was/is pretty dumb.

FWIW I agree that "Ellen" doesn't seem to be Neal. I wonder if "she"
is one of JAXAshby's old flames.


It has been a while since Jax departed. I suppose "she" could be Jax
him/herself, but who knows in this deceptive forum.

Max

It's Neal....


If that's true, he's doing a brilliant job of appearing stupid.

Max

Hr doesn't have to try very hard....


Neal may be bigoted, obtuse, and deluded, but I'm not convinced he's
stupid.

Max
He's pretending to be Ellen...how smart is that?

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"DSK" wrote in message
...

although the thing to *really* look out for is port-tackers cleaning their
goggles. A capsize isn't so bad if you don't mind sliding on ice.

Back when I owned the Nite, I used to receive a six-per-year, pathetic
little iceboat racing rag that had some fair photographs. One such
photograph was of two E Skeeters that failed to yield ROW at around 90 mph.
One sliced the other in half just in front of the mast and then
disintegrated itself. Both sailors were injured, one seriously with a skull
fracture. Both survived, but probably gave up iceboat racing.

Max

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"katy" wrote in message
...
Maxprop wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...

Maxprop wrote:

"katy" wrote in message
...


Maxprop wrote:


"DSK" wrote in message
.net...



Maxprop wrote:



This is the first post of Ellen's that seems to dispel the notion
that "she" is actually Neal in verbal drag. Neal would know better.


Why do you say that? Neal was/is pretty dumb.

FWIW I agree that "Ellen" doesn't seem to be Neal. I wonder if "she"
is one of JAXAshby's old flames.


It has been a while since Jax departed. I suppose "she" could be Jax
him/herself, but who knows in this deceptive forum.

Max

It's Neal....


If that's true, he's doing a brilliant job of appearing stupid.

Max

Hr doesn't have to try very hard....


Neal may be bigoted, obtuse, and deluded, but I'm not convinced he's
stupid.

Max
He's pretending to be Ellen...how smart is that?

C'mon, Katy, I'm trying to draw him out with insults.

Max

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"Walt" wrote in message
...
Maxprop wrote:

Have you been frostbiting, Walt?

I'm not sure the exact technical definition of that word, but yeah, I
think so. I usually get out on the water the day the lake thaws.
Sometimes there's still ice floating around. Does that count?


I guess so. Frostbiting is early and late season racing, generally in
dinghies, but I believe they call it that with big boats, too.

My last day of racing this year was Nov 5th. Dinghys. I was unaware that
racing was part of the definition, but that's covered.

I wasn't sure whether you needed one of these to qualify:
http://www.capecodfrosty.org/

That's kewl. Actually a lot of frostbiting is done in prams, like El Toros
and Sabots. Not sure what the attraction is for smaller boats--perhaps the
reasoning is that a larger dink might take longer to right after a capsize.
In 40 degree water hypothermia comes knocking at your door right quickly.

Max

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Maxprop wrote:

"DSK" wrote


although the thing to *really* look out for is port-tackers cleaning their
goggles. A capsize isn't so bad if you don't mind sliding on ice.


I was told to watch out for geese. Since geese tend to congregate
around the holes in the ice where there's open water, you really really
don't want to go near the geese.

//Walt

Frostbiting (was whipping or dipping?)
 

Maxprop wrote:

"Walt" wrote in message


I wasn't sure whether you needed one of these to qualify:
http://www.capecodfrosty.org/


That's kewl. Actually a lot of frostbiting is done in prams, like El Toros
and Sabots. Not sure what the attraction is for smaller boats--perhaps the
reasoning is that a larger dink might take longer to right after a capsize.
In 40 degree water hypothermia comes knocking at your door right quickly.

I think it has to do with the ease of rescue. If there's a capsize, the
RC can pluck the sailor out of the water and then do the same with the
boat - Cape Cod Frosty's are light enough that the class enforces
minimum weight requirement by having the sailor stand on a scale holding
the boat.

//Walt

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Maxprop wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...

Maxprop wrote:

"katy" wrote in message
...


Maxprop wrote:


"katy" wrote in message
...



Maxprop wrote:



"DSK" wrote in message
h.net...




Maxprop wrote:




This is the first post of Ellen's that seems to dispel the notion
that "she" is actually Neal in verbal drag. Neal would know better.


Why do you say that? Neal was/is pretty dumb.

FWIW I agree that "Ellen" doesn't seem to be Neal. I wonder if "she"
is one of JAXAshby's old flames.


It has been a while since Jax departed. I suppose "she" could be Jax
him/herself, but who knows in this deceptive forum.

Max

It's Neal....


If that's true, he's doing a brilliant job of appearing stupid.

Max

Hr doesn't have to try very hard....


Neal may be bigoted, obtuse, and deluded, but I'm not convinced he's
stupid.

Max

He's pretending to be Ellen...how smart is that?


C'mon, Katy, I'm trying to draw him out with insults.

Max


You call those insults? You're not at the top of your form...you need
more sting..more bite...be vitrolic...put some bitter into it for Pete's
sake...

whipping or dipping?
 

Walt wrote:
Maxprop wrote:

"DSK" wrote

although the thing to *really* look out for is port-tackers cleaning
their goggles. A capsize isn't so bad if you don't mind sliding on ice.



I was told to watch out for geese. Since geese tend to congregate
around the holes in the ice where there's open water, you really really
don't want to go near the geese.

//Walt

besides that, then you'd have to scrape goose doo off your runner blades