"Dave" wrote:
"Capt. JG" said:

However, when I replaced my fender lines recently, I
dipped
the ends instead of taking the time to whip them. So far,
it seems just
fine, the only difference seeming to be the asthetic.

I have to dissent from the prevailing wisdom you seem to
be getting. If it
works, I see no reason whatever not to go with the easier
alternative.

The lines on my boat are whipped, but that's only because
I didn't have any
of the "gook" required for dipping around when the time
came to tidy up the
ends.

As to Joe's back splicing, it's an abomination.

Yeah, I had a back-spliced line until it got jammed between
two dock boards as we were leaving someplace. Damn near
lost a finger when the boat slammed into the pier.

Seahag

Seahag wrote:
"Dave" wrote:
"Capt. JG" said:

However, when I replaced my fender lines recently, I
dipped
the ends instead of taking the time to whip them. So far,
it seems just
fine, the only difference seeming to be the asthetic.

I have to dissent from the prevailing wisdom you seem to
be getting. If it
works, I see no reason whatever not to go with the easier
alternative.

The lines on my boat are whipped, but that's only because
I didn't have any
of the "gook" required for dipping around when the time
came to tidy up the
ends.

As to Joe's back splicing, it's an abomination.

Yeah, I had a back-spliced line until it got jammed between
two dock boards as we were leaving someplace. Damn near
lost a finger when the boat slammed into the pier.

Well good thing the eye did not get hung up ya might of lost a leg.

I myself like a stop on the end of a line, makes it easy to find in a
coil, wears better and give a nice handle on the end if needed in a
heave.

All my dock lines have back splices on one end and eyes spliced in the
other, all my sheets have back splices.

Joe


Seahag

The hot melted ends are good for cleaning out one's ears. :-)

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"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 08:50:52 -0800, "Capt. JG"
said:

Melting the ends doesn't really do it. Seems to make things ugly and
difficult to do it right. Also, I don't like using fire on a boat if I
don't
have to.

In addition, even with a hot knife cut, the melted material may form a
sharp
point at the end of the line that can cut under some circumstances.

Dave wrote:

On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 08:50:52 -0800, "Capt. JG" said:

Melting the ends doesn't really do it. Seems to make things ugly and
difficult to do it right. Also, I don't like using fire on a boat if I don't
have to.

In addition, even with a hot knife cut, the melted material may form a sharp
point at the end of the line that can cut under some circumstances.

If you don't form the melted end correctly, it'll be the wrong shape. Of
cours, there are many things that turn out badly when done incorrectly.
This is a fine example.

I like to form the end while it's still hot using a piece of cardboard.

//Walt

I like that... I'll have to give it a shot. Whip then dip... the best of
both worlds.

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www.sailnow.com

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Jon,

There is nothng wrong with dipping, there is nothing wrong with whipping
on a dipped end either.

I use to burn the cut off ends and then whip them when thing got quite.
Nothing as relaxing while drinking a cup of coffee while being becalmed
than whipping burnt ends of line.


http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ILLDRINKTOTHAT

Thom Stewart wrote:
Joe,

I don't think I've ever seen a back splice in a woven line? How is it
done?


Same as chinese handcuffs, yet you back the core. Same way you do an
eye in braid yet remove the eye.

That's yacht rope anyway, i figured real sailors use 3 strand rope.

Joe

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"Walt" wrote in message
...
Dave wrote:

On Mon, 27 Nov 2006 08:50:52 -0800, "Capt. JG"
said:

Melting the ends doesn't really do it. Seems to make things ugly and
difficult to do it right. Also, I don't like using fire on a boat if I
don't have to.

In addition, even with a hot knife cut, the melted material may form a
sharp
point at the end of the line that can cut under some circumstances.

If you don't form the melted end correctly, it'll be the wrong shape. Of
cours, there are many things that turn out badly when done incorrectly.
This is a fine example.

I like to form the end while it's still hot using a piece of cardboard.

//Walt

A heated putty knife works well or the flame deflector on a propane torch.
Electric stove coils work fine too. Real men can simply form the molten
nylon with their bare fingers, as long as they don't get any in the hair on
their chest.

Dave wrote:
On 27 Nov 2006 09:34:24 -0800, "Joe" said:

OK Dave. But..... it's a donkey's Dick not a" dogs dick".
Geeeeeze...ya lazy line dipper.

Guess it depends on the size of the line, and what ship you were on.

I call BULL****. Give one refference of a sailor calling anything a
"dogs dick".

I have a donkeys dick on my bell, it's red white and blue poly pro.

Unless your sailing on the Rin Tin Tin the proper nautical term is
Donkeys dick.

Joe

Dave wrote:
As to Joe's back splicing, it's an abomination.

Thou unclean rope-end, get thee behind me!

Maybe that's why it's called a back splice?

DSK

Walt wrote:
.... For high-tech cores that don't melt (e.g. technora), pull
the cover back, cut off half an inch of core, pull the cover back over
the core and melt just the cover.


Deen there, done that, the core creeps back & forth and
makes the line not run well.

DSK