Boob, who are you trying to kid.




Not you! You think people with fractional rigs are flying 155%'s all
the time!!!!
We rarely used the 155 on the C&C 32! Oh, how about the 1990 Ericson 34
I sail on...he's flying a 135% and needs to furl that down as well. I
guess these are all too tender for 155's, right?
You sure KNOW boats, Sloco!!!!


RB
35s5
NY

Dave wrote:
On 12 Oct 2006 12:36:06 -0700, "Capt. Rob" said:

We rarely used the 155 on the C&C 32!

But what do people who know how to sail do?


Well, let's see.....the J29 owner rarely flies his big genny, the new
C&C 32 owner is using a 135%....even my friend's J30 typically only
needs a 110%.
Dave, how often do you need a 155%??? We sail just fine with a 110%
(and a rather tired sail at that) in everything over 6-8 knots of wind.
Most mastheads around here have a RF 135-145% type sail and it's quite
common to see them out reefed down or with no main up. Oh, and
according to Mark at Doyle, he flew a 110 on his Beneteau 36.7 most of
the time.

You guys simply don't know crap and this thread is really proving it!!!

RB
35s5
NY

Dave wrote:
On 12 Oct 2006 13:09:16 -0700, "Capt. Rob" said:

Dave, how often do you need a 155%??? We sail just fine with a 110%
(and a rather tired sail at that) in everything over 6-8 knots of wind.

I carry a 155, a 135, a 100 and a storm jib. This summer, I'd say I got
about equal use of the 155 and the 100, and used the 135 only a couple of
times.


So you either had pretty light days or some good air. Not much in the
middle? I think most of the days we sailed we had between 8 and 16
knots. Do you think a fractional rig boat with a SA of over 600 sq.
feet and disp. of under 12000 lbs needs a 155% often? I just want YOUR
opinion because no one else I know with lighter boats and fractional
rigs needs them much. In fact, the J29 here Excite flys a small
headsail almost all of the time and he has a custom ballast boat. The
go-to sail on a J30 here (and we know three) is a 110%.
See my other post regarding the change to my headsail spec.


RB
35s5
NY

Nutsy,

A Question; You have a Self Furler on your Head Stay, Why are you
cutting a #1? Why aren't you just rolling it up?

It sounds like your "2nd Hand head sail" isn't going to be able to take
a partial reef? Is that the case? Will you be able to roll it to a 100%
if you can't cut it?

I guess I'm asking; If you furl it, will it lose its driving force and
just be a Heeling Producer?

I don't understand the mentality of cutting down a head sail on a Self
Furler?

Please explain?

I guess I'm asking; If you furl it, will it lose its driving force and
just be a Heeling Producer?



All good questions, Thom. I feel that sails perform best when they are
not furled, with a sharp leading edge and proper shape. 125% combined
with our big main is a lot of sail area and as I've said, we found the
110% more than enough most of the time. The sail will also last longer
with loads distributed across the whole grid, rather than a section of
it when the sail is partially rolled up. Now add to that the fact that
these hi tech sails will power up the boat even more and I happy to be
a bit conservative by cutting the genoa a bit. Sure it will furl,
pretty well I bet. Remember that the 35s5 is all about her mainsail. I
sailed all the way to oyster bay on a close reach with only the main,
and well to weather at times. No jib required with 15 knots+ blowing.
Also keep this in perspective: I don't race and I do a lot of easy
daysailing and overnighters. I won't demand a lot from these sails 95%
of the time, certainly not what they were built for. On the other hand
they will be fun when I do push the boat and are a great deal for the
money. It's a win/win all around.

RB
35s5
NY

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message

Now add to that the fact that these hi tech sails will power up the boat
even more

You cannot seriously believe that these sails will boast horsepower... do
you???

CM-

You cannot seriously believe that these sails will boast horsepower...
do
you???


You cannot seriously believe that these hi tech sails won't improve
windward performance, trim, acceleration on all points and reduce
weight aloft...do you?


RB
35s5
NY

Dave wrote:

On 12 Oct 2006 13:56:17 -0700, "Capt. Rob" said:

Do you think a fractional rig boat with a SA of over 600 sq.
feet and disp. of under 12000 lbs needs a 155% often? I just want YOUR
opinion because no one else I know with lighter boats and fractional
rigs needs them much.

Hell, what do I know about it. I don't have either a fractional rig or a
particularly light boat.

You've a real boat, a Canadian boat, a boat with enough glass and resin
to make two Bennies of the same length!

Cheers
Marty

You've a real boat, a Canadian boat, a boat with enough glass and resin

to make two Bennies of the same length!



Real boat = too much glass and resin and poor technology?
Oh.
I prefer a boat that doesn't need a 155% genoa on the LIS 50% of the
time.

RB
35s5
NY

Nutsy,

Or should we address you as; "2nd Hand Rose?"

Are you putting ultra violet protection on the the Leech of your 2nd
handed Butchered Head Sail?

Seems like your wonderful Deck Level Furler is just "Junk" now. Worth
nothing on e-bay because of the Track attached.

Seems like a very poor mental error on your part. I want to go on
recorded of not agreeing with any thing you've done with your Head
Sail. Starting with the purchase of a racing jib for a cruising knock
about boat, The need to go to the pointy End of the boat to hank on a
head sail and remove it from a useless Self Furling system.

I'm really not sure that you are that stupid. Is this just another of
your; "Lying trolls?"


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