Docking Situation Question #3
 

Mooron, among other things, is a proven liar. He's a very angry person. Just
watch how he reacts to anything someone says that's negative about him.

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"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in message
reenews.net...

"silverback" wrote
| YES! My boat is six tons and I've done it many times! Raise main &
genny.
| Hand over hand the vessel to the point where the anchor is holding but
ready
| to be weighed.... now take in sheets..... then weigh anchor as you sail
by
| the hook point.
|
| Scotty... it works everytime. I sailed for a season without aux. I know
what
| a sailboat can do without an engine. It's truly amazing. The key is to
| preplan your manuevers. Think out the situation and most of all...
| understand your boat.


Right on CM. I like your style...

Cheers,
Ellen

Docking Situation Question #3
 

You clearly know nothing about sailing away from the dock if you think an
anchor is going to help you.

Get a life. So far, you're just a drag on this group.

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"silverback" wrote in message
news:JA_Og.18250$E67.2252@clgrps13...

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
You need to get past the anchor thing. It's not going to help you much.

Spoken from the mouth of inexperience. Ground tackle and it's use in
manuevering vessels is an art long lost to you panywaisted sailing
instructors with no experience in vessel handling without an engine to
depend on!

You Dare think you have sufficent experience to hold the title of Captain
because you passed some idiotic exam that is taken and passed by thousands
every week? You think because you teach rank newbs the very basics of sail
that you have any merit to refer to yourself as a Captain??

Your ilk disgust me! You encapsulate everything I detest about the persons
taking up sailing these days. Smarmy, whinning ****ants that consider a
few years of bay sailing and a romp in the charter islands as proof of
competency.

I .... on the other hand... can talk now .... because when I was
learning... it was with hands on experience with real seafarers... and
back then I kept my mouth shut and my ears open. I learned first hand....
you book read wanna-be scumsucking dock diva!

You're not fit too lick the salt from my boot!

CM-

Docking Situation Question #3
 

He's so angry, he can't stop. It's quite pathetic.

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"silverback" wrote in message
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"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in message

Whoopee! Here's a man with a real big hitch in his giddyup! I like
your style, sir...

It's refferred to as Dockside Ettiquette...

"Never Mince Words to Spare the Sensibilities of the Thin Skinned and
Ignorant" - Capt Neal

Your're either a sailor or a pussy... or in Jon's case... a Pussy Sailor

:-)

CM-

Docking Situation Question #3
 

Wrong. Use your sailing skill.

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"silverback" wrote in message
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Row out your anchor to windward. Set your sails. Pull your vessel to the
anchor. Tie off and set the sheets. Hoist anchor as you sail by. I've done
this so often it's second nature. It's called casting off from a lee dock.
No big deal.

CM

wrote in message
oups.com...
How do you sail off a dock when the wind is
setting you towards the dock. [Assume an end-tie
situation with no motor] 1 pt

Docking Situation Question #3
 

Maybe you're not a woman. Maybe you're not a sailor. So far, you haven't
shown us much in the way of either.

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"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in message
reenews.net...

"silverback" wrote

| Row out your anchor to windward. Set your sails. Pull your vessel to the
| anchor. Tie off and set the sheets. Hoist anchor as you sail by. I've
done
| this so often it's second nature. It's called casting off from a lee
dock.
| No big deal.


I agree with you but Capt. JG says I should forget about using an
anchor
to sail off a dock. For a captain maybe he's inexperienced???

Cheers,
Ellen

Docking Situation Question #3
 

Mooron is an angry guy with no social skills or life. He just can't stand it
when confronted by someone who actually sails.

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"silverback" wrote in message
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"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in message

I agree with you but Capt. JG says I should forget about using an
anchor
to sail off a dock. For a captain maybe he's inexperienced???

Ganz is so far out of his league as to merit any of his input as inept
guesswork.

Ground Tackle to manuever vessels is a tradition that goes back thousands
of years. To have Jon make such a ridiculous statement..... denotes his
lack of expertise and penchant to hear himself talk. Ganz is an idiot when
it comes to vessel handling.... he relies on book read info instead of
experience.

CM

Docking Situation Question #3
 

I'm sorry Bart, but we have a lot of experience with small boats in the SF
bay, and I've never see that happen or even attempted. In order to kedge off
that way, you first have to deploy the anchor. Who's going to do it?

Neither ASA nor USSailing's books mention this, although they do mention how
to leave a dock in this situation.

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"Bart Senior" .@. wrote in message ...
1 point for CM

Small boat might get off with a running start, but it
is by no means certain and this is a small subset of the
sailing population. The proper way is to set an
anchor and pull yourself off.

If the boat is big, it will have big winches. You can
winch yourself off the dock and lay to a single anchor.

As to when you should set your sails. That is a matter
of choice. When laying to a single anchor you can hoist
later or you can do it in advance--which means more work.

I'd just set the main after pulling myself off and leave the
foredeck clean for working up the anchor. With a roller
furler I'd unroll the jib enough to allow me to back the
sail but not enough to be in the way of hosting the anchor.
The advantage to having the jib set is you can back it if you
are in irons. The same could be done with the main, but less
effectively.


"silverback" wrote

"Scotty" wrote in message

the wind's blowing this bigger boat against the dock and
you're going to hoist sail and THEN pull the boat INTO the
wind by hand???


YES! My boat is six tons and I've done it many times! Raise main &
genny. Hand over hand the vessel to the point where the anchor is holding
but ready to be weighed.... now take in sheets..... then weigh anchor as
you sail by the hook point.

Scotty... it works everytime. I sailed for a season without aux. I know
what a sailboat can do without an engine. It's truly amazing. The key is
to preplan your manuevers. Think out the situation and most of all...
understand your boat.

CM

Docking Situation Question #3
 

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
Neither ASA nor USSailing's books mention this, although they do mention
how to leave a dock in this situation.

There you go... it ain't in the book so it can't be done!!

Bwahahahahahahahahahaahahahaaaa...... thanks again you clueless idiot!

CM-

Docking Situation Question #3
 

Never said "it can't be done." I said it shouldn't be done. It doesn't need
to be done. Having reading problems???

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"silverback" wrote in message
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
Neither ASA nor USSailing's books mention this, although they do mention
how to leave a dock in this situation.

There you go... it ain't in the book so it can't be done!!

Bwahahahahahahahahahaahahahaaaa...... thanks again you clueless idiot!

CM-

Docking Situation Question #3
 

Geez Chuck.... you and Ganz should take this off line and get a room.

CM-

"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 16 Sep 2006 16:34:52 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

He's so angry, he can't stop. It's quite pathetic.

That's why Ellen is attracted to him. She has a lot of anchor, too.

CWM