Any recommendations for a 35 foot cruiser?

"Carcharias" wrote in message
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Any recommendations for a 35 foot cruiser?

According to someone here, there is nothing, absolutely nothing, better than
a Beneteau 35s5.

Of course YMMV, as does everyone elses.

What do you intend to do with it? What conditions will you sail in? How
old are you and in what condition? Is speed important, or accommodations?
A few details would be helpful.

Max

Max

I should have been more specific. I'm interested in a racer cruiser.
More interested in speed than comfort. I can rough it. Ocean capable
is a requirement. Fin keel, no narrow transom boats. I'd like to
start single handing, and I'm getting a bit older and not as physical
as I was formerly. I've been looking around for a while. I'd prefer a
big cat, but can't afford that now. It seems those need to be big for
what I want to do. So I've decided to scope things down to a mid-30
footer. I'd like to be able to get 7 knots regularly. Many of the 30
footers I've seen only seem to sail one speed 5 knots. That is too
slow.

Also, I'd like to have two sea-berths and a comfortable at anchor
double for cozy nights with my lady.

Benetoad? You have got to be kidding! I would not touch a piece of
crap like that! Every one I've sailed has been too light in the keel,
and too tender as a result. The rig is weak, the factory sails are
horrible, and every thing seems to break. I have no cofidence in those
boats except for one 50 fotter I sailded that built around 1988. That
is too much boat for one person and which I can't afford either. Also,
too much plastic and no way to get at the hull.

I can deal with a light boat and, love them, but I would not trust my
life in cheaply built Benetoad, however, it woud be my first choice to
putting my ex-wife in one--during hurricane season.

What do you sail Max?

Maxprop wrote:
"Carcharias" wrote in message
ups.com...
Any recommendations for a 35 foot cruiser?

According to someone here, there is nothing, absolutely nothing, better than
a Beneteau 35s5.

Of course YMMV, as does everyone elses.

What do you intend to do with it? What conditions will you sail in? How
old are you and in what condition? Is speed important, or accommodations?
A few details would be helpful.

Max

Max

"Carcharias" wrote in message
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Any recommendations for a 35 foot cruiser?


http://www.mindspring.com/~sailing_fool/

Slightly bigger than 35', but not by much.

http://old.cruisingworld.com/ssbk/tart37.htm

If you know anything about PHRF ratings, I've seen a number as low as 126
associated with this boat. They are mainly centerboard boats, though there
are a few deep fin keels and shoal scheel keels out there. Only downside is
that they are relatively pricey, considering their age.

John Cairns

Wow! Cool troll!!!!

Seemed real except for lack of price range...which makes all the
difference!



Sorry.



RB
35s5
NY

Wow! Cool troll!!!!

You got that right. That was pretty slick... heh heh

One of our more talented regulars must have pulled this
one off.

Bill

One of our more talented regulars must have pulled this
one off.


Yeah, but rather than slamming the Beneteau in such an obvious way, he
should have taken a few small jabs, like coming up with a good story on
a how a a 38s5 fell apart at sea during a charter, or how his insurance
company won't cover Beneteau, a few gentle jabs to get things going. Oh
well.

Did I ever tell you about the time my yard had to repair the hull deck
joint on a Luders 33? Practical Sailor mentions that it's a weakness on
them and the Sea Sprite.


RB
35s5
NY

Any recommendations for a 35 foot cruiser?

John Cairns wrote:
http://www.mindspring.com/~sailing_fool/

Slightly bigger than 35', but not by much.

http://old.cruisingworld.com/ssbk/tart37.htm


Those are pretty boats. S&S designs are always classy
looking. The fine bow & stern make it small for a 37 footer.

If you know anything about PHRF ratings, I've seen a number as low as 126
associated with this boat.

OTOH they also have local ratings around 170. The bottom
line is that they're not speedy. But they are thoroughbreds
of an earlier generation of racer-cruisers.

... They are mainly centerboard boats, though there
are a few deep fin keels and shoal scheel keels out there. Only downside is
that they are relatively pricey, considering their age.


They have a devoted following. Lots of them (especially the
CB version) around the Chesapeake.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

Nice troll, but also an interesting avenuse for discussion
(as always): "what is the BEST boat?"

Carcharias wrote:
I should have been more specific. I'm interested in a racer cruiser.
More interested in speed than comfort. I can rough it. Ocean capable
is a requirement. Fin keel, no narrow transom boats.

What characteristics do you associate "narrow transoms" with?

.... I'd like to
start single handing, and I'm getting a bit older and not as physical
as I was formerly. I've been looking around for a while. I'd prefer a
big cat, but can't afford that now.

Why not? Lots of multis coming on the market for less money
now. If that's what you want, it makes more sense to shop
for a bargain in that market than to get a monohull.



Also, I'd like to have two sea-berths and a comfortable at anchor
double for cozy nights with my lady.


Easily do-able in a 35 footer. But I guess if you're ruling
out multis one the basis of price, you're not looking at a
Sydney 36 either? The new X-35OD?

Some boats to look at:
Thomas 35
Frers 36 F3
Morgan 365 (Nelson/Marek)
J-35
Dehler 34 or DB-2
Omega 36
New York 36
Express 35
Abott 33 or 36
Soverel 36
Sweden 34
Scanmar 35
Baltic 35 (a bit pricey)
Olson 34
Ericson 34
CS 36
Sabre 34, 35, or 36

If shallow draft is among your considerations, I'd also
recommend a look at
Nightwind 35
Clearwater 35
Southerly 110

Benetoad? You have got to be kidding! I would not touch a piece of
crap like that! Every one I've sailed has been too light in the keel,
and too tender as a result. The rig is weak, the factory sails are
horrible, and every thing seems to break.

Hmm this is beginning to look more & more like a troll! But
while it's true that Beneteaus are mass-produced boats, the
market tends to force them into a QA level that is no worse
than other mass-produced boats of their size/price level.

If you feel so strongly about a Beneteau then I won't
suggest looking at any Hunters, even though for the dollar
they are roomier & faster.


I can deal with a light boat and, love them, but I would not trust my
life in cheaply built Benetoad, however, it woud be my first choice to
putting my ex-wife in one--during hurricane season.


Is your ex-wife named Isabelle or Ellen by any chance?

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

Some boats to look at:


Doug, excluding the Beneteau's you left out one of the most impressive
more modern boats in the C&C 34+ and XL versions. The racer versions
like the XL combine really nice cruising interiors with R type
performance. This is a boat I sailed. The running backstays can be a
hassle for lazy sailing, but this is a boat that sails really well.


RB
35s5
NY