"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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No comment? I guess ripping people off for a "non-insurance
survey" is part of how you got rich?


The owner doesn't pay for the survey. My survey is for the yard to
determine if the boat will be allowed into brokerage. I recently took a
Hunter 43 in, but it had to pass my survey 1st. Owner does not pay for
this. Why is this hard to understand?

Survey? That's not a survey at all. No doubt you check the Buc Book, take
a quick glance at the boat to make sure it isn't trashed, and then offer
your recommendation to the brokerage. Calling yourself a surveyor is like
you calling yourself a captain.

Three weeks ago a fellow came in with a Ericson that pinned my meter
when I ran the decks. I sounded it and even found the points where
water had got in. But the point is that I did not accept the boat into
our program. I'm not going to give away free storage on a boat we may
never sell.
My inspection covers everything from rigging, to sails and electronics.
Our shop checks the engine. On occasion I'll take the float boat or
even drive over to check a boat out that sounds promising. Sometimes I
get to sail it in with the owner. Over the past few years I've had the
pleasure of sailing quite a few boats...a nice little benefit.

So why wouldn't the marina hire a *real* surveyor for this purpose? Do you
work for chicken feed?

Max

Survey? That's not a survey at all. No doubt you check the Buc Book,
take
a quick glance at the boat to make sure it isn't trashed, and then
offer
your recommendation to the brokerage. Calling yourself a surveyor is
like
you calling yourself a captain.


Funny. My survey of a Ericson 34 took a few hours and was detailed
right down to sounding the deck and hull and testing all the
electronics. The engine is surveyed by our shop. I rejected the Ericson
34 for brokerage. The owner's expectations were not realistic. Buc and
NADA are only a quick stop. They are rarely in tune with the current
market for a given area.
BTW, Max, I pay nothing for keeping my boat at the nicest marina
around. Not even bottom paint or the new lifelines I'm still mulling
over (can't decide on wire or rope). It's a sweet deal for just having
fun.

RB
35s5
NY

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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Funny. My survey of a Ericson 34 took a few hours and was detailed
right down to sounding the deck and hull and testing all the
electronics.

RB
35s5
NY


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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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Survey? That's not a survey at all. No doubt you check the Buc Book,
take
a quick glance at the boat to make sure it isn't trashed, and then
offer
your recommendation to the brokerage. Calling yourself a surveyor is
like
you calling yourself a captain.


Funny. My survey of a Ericson 34 took a few hours and was detailed
right down to sounding the deck and hull and testing all the
electronics. The engine is surveyed by our shop. I rejected the Ericson
34 for brokerage. The owner's expectations were not realistic. Buc and
NADA are only a quick stop. They are rarely in tune with the current
market for a given area.

Interesting that I've been hooking you in the gill plate far more than vice
versa lately.

BTW, Max, I pay nothing for keeping my boat at the nicest marina
around. Not even bottom paint or the new lifelines I'm still mulling
over (can't decide on wire or rope).

3/4" twisted sisal would look great on the Bendy, not to mention tres chic.

Max