"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...

I'm sorry, but once I'm offended, it's really too late.

Then I rescind my apology. :-)

I have. He's not nearly in the same league as that psycho who posts under
various aliases.

I know this sounds disingenuous, but that's a horse of a different color.
We all expect BB and some others to be in a league by themselves, but we
seldom discuss issues with those folks either. Doug discusses issues, and
cogently, but he can't refrain from ad hominems, for some reason. It
denigrates his argument. "If you can't debate the issue, attack the
debater."

Well, there are lots of things that Rush says that are factually correct.
Of course, you're deciding what's far left, so I guess you can pick what
you want.

Not exclusively. I also decide what constitutes far right as well, at least
IMO.

Did he insult someone is your family? Did he claim you have fleas? I don't
recall anything like this.

See below. A fairly typical example, actually.

I was personal? I think I called you maxipad, which I wasn't the first to
do.

That never bothered me in the least.

Why didn't you respond to my final question, about Doug's most recent attack
in this thread?

Max

No problem with the apology. I forgive you. :-)

I didn't see the personal attack from him. Would you like to repeat it...
then, I'll pass judgement upon him.

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Maxprop" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...

I'm sorry, but once I'm offended, it's really too late.

Then I rescind my apology. :-)

I have. He's not nearly in the same league as that psycho who posts under
various aliases.

I know this sounds disingenuous, but that's a horse of a different color.
We all expect BB and some others to be in a league by themselves, but we
seldom discuss issues with those folks either. Doug discusses issues, and
cogently, but he can't refrain from ad hominems, for some reason. It
denigrates his argument. "If you can't debate the issue, attack the
debater."

Well, there are lots of things that Rush says that are factually correct.
Of course, you're deciding what's far left, so I guess you can pick what
you want.

Not exclusively. I also decide what constitutes far right as well, at
least IMO.

Did he insult someone is your family? Did he claim you have fleas? I
don't recall anything like this.

See below. A fairly typical example, actually.

I was personal? I think I called you maxipad, which I wasn't the first to
do.

That never bothered me in the least.

Why didn't you respond to my final question, about Doug's most recent
attack in this thread?

Max

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
No problem with the apology. I forgive you. :-)

I didn't see the personal attack from him. Would you like to repeat it...
then, I'll pass judgement upon him.

Below is the last part of that post.

Max
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++
So far, it looks like your ad-hominem attacks are merely a pattern of
far-right-wing hate-mongering and peurile fantasy. Maybe you shouldn't be
so hard on Bubbles, really you're quite a bit like him.

Doug: in all seriousness, re-read your paragraph above and tell me honestly
that:
1) that's not a very personal, derogatory attack,
2) that you've not labeled me as a far-right, hate-monger,
3) that you've stuck to the issues at hand rather than simply allowing your
emotions to lash out in anger,
4) that in any of my paragraphs above I've been either as hateful or
derogatory as you were in this last paragraph.

Of course you can't. You simply are unable to abstain from personal
attacks.

Jon: is this evidence enough for you?

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++

Seems pretty mild to me, although it is "derogatory" for sure. I've
certainly endured much worse without coming unglued. Perhaps a chill-pill is
in order?

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Maxprop" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
No problem with the apology. I forgive you. :-)

I didn't see the personal attack from him. Would you like to repeat it...
then, I'll pass judgement upon him.

Below is the last part of that post.

Max
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++
So far, it looks like your ad-hominem attacks are merely a pattern of
far-right-wing hate-mongering and peurile fantasy. Maybe you shouldn't be
so hard on Bubbles, really you're quite a bit like him.

Doug: in all seriousness, re-read your paragraph above and tell me
honestly
that:
1) that's not a very personal, derogatory attack,
2) that you've not labeled me as a far-right, hate-monger,
3) that you've stuck to the issues at hand rather than simply allowing
your
emotions to lash out in anger,
4) that in any of my paragraphs above I've been either as hateful or
derogatory as you were in this last paragraph.

Of course you can't. You simply are unable to abstain from personal
attacks.

Jon: is this evidence enough for you?

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++

Capt. JG wrote:
Seems pretty mild to me, although it is "derogatory" for sure. I've
certainly endured much worse without coming unglued. Perhaps a chill-pill is
in order?

He doesn't need any more chill...Lake Michigan still hasn't warmed up
enough to be comfortable to sail on for very long without a lot of
clothing...a few days ago the water temps. of Muskegon were still 39F-45F...

Maybe he just needs to warm up to Doug then.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"katy" wrote in message
...
Capt. JG wrote:
Seems pretty mild to me, although it is "derogatory" for sure. I've
certainly endured much worse without coming unglued. Perhaps a chill-pill
is in order?

He doesn't need any more chill...Lake Michigan still hasn't warmed up
enough to be comfortable to sail on for very long without a lot of
clothing...a few days ago the water temps. of Muskegon were still
39F-45F...

"katy" wrote in message
...
Capt. JG wrote:
Seems pretty mild to me, although it is "derogatory" for
sure. I've
certainly endured much worse without coming unglued.
Perhaps a chill-pill is
in order?

He doesn't need any more chill...Lake Michigan still
hasn't warmed up
enough to be comfortable to sail on for very long without
a lot of
clothing...a few days ago the water temps. of Muskegon
were still 39F-45F...

You miss the old place?

Scotty wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...
Capt. JG wrote:
Seems pretty mild to me, although it is "derogatory" for
sure. I've
certainly endured much worse without coming unglued.
Perhaps a chill-pill is
in order?

He doesn't need any more chill...Lake Michigan still
hasn't warmed up
enough to be comfortable to sail on for very long without
a lot of
clothing...a few days ago the water temps. of Muskegon
were still 39F-45F...

You miss the old place?




NOT...but I have to spend 6 weeks there this summer...boohiss...

"katy" wrote in message
...
Capt. JG wrote:
Seems pretty mild to me, although it is "derogatory" for sure. I've
certainly endured much worse without coming unglued. Perhaps a chill-pill
is in order?

He doesn't need any more chill...Lake Michigan still hasn't warmed up
enough to be comfortable to sail on for very long without a lot of
clothing...a few days ago the water temps. of Muskegon were still
39F-45F...

They've been 48-52 on every sail this season so far. However, Katy, we're
in the midst of a warm-up. Temps were in the 90s today and should remain
there for a while. Won't take long to warm up the pond with those temps.
NWS said the beachfront water should be in the upper 60s tomorrow.

Max

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
Seems pretty mild to me, although it is "derogatory" for sure. I've
certainly endured much worse without coming unglued. Perhaps a chill-pill
is in order?

Nah. It doesn't bother me much. But I've tried to encourage limiting
debates to the issues and leaving the personal attacks to BB and others. We
could always do it his way, nothing held back. But that seems somewhat
counterproductive to me.

Max