2005 Toyota Corolla 4-DR. Crash Test Ratings
Frontal Impact - Frontal Impact - Side Impact - Side Impact -
4 4 3 3

1999 Toyota Corolla 4-DR. Crash Test Figures
Head Injury Criterion Chest Deceleration (g's) Femur Load (lbs)
Frontal Driver's Side 722 44 1331 | 929
Frontal Passenger's Side 566 47 968 | 463
Thoratic Trauma Index (TTI) Pelvis Deceleration (g's)
Side Front Occupant 80 108
Rear Front Occupant 80 90

3 star side impact???? Holy christ!!! And the new Corolla is touted as
the safest yet!!! No way would I trust a Corolla in open traffic.

RB
35s5
NY

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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2005 Toyota Corolla 4-DR. Crash Test Ratings
Frontal Impact - Frontal Impact - Side Impact - Side Impact -
4 4 3 3

1999 Toyota Corolla 4-DR. Crash Test Figures
Head Injury Criterion Chest Deceleration (g's) Femur Load (lbs)
Frontal Driver's Side 722 44 1331 | 929
Frontal Passenger's Side 566 47 968 | 463
Thoratic Trauma Index (TTI) Pelvis Deceleration (g's)
Side Front Occupant 80 108
Rear Front Occupant 80 90

3 star side impact???? Holy christ!!! And the new Corolla is touted as
the safest yet!!! No way would I trust a Corolla in open traffic.

If you really did any research you'd know the safest Corolla is the 2004. In
2005 the seats were changed and in a rear collision they would collapse.

Where are such factors as seat collapse in your research?

With the side airbag option all your test results become null.

Corolla + open traffic = 44 mpg!

And a better roll over rating than a Tribeca!

And a better roll over rating than a Tribeca!


Actually, the Corolla scores an 8, while the Tribeca scores a 6. The
Tribeca is tested with vehicle stability and traction control turned
off as with all tests of vehicles of this type. That means the Tribeca
exceeds the rollover rating of the Corolla....and is safer in every
way. No one picks a Corolla for any other reason but low cost. As a 3rd
car, it's still to cheap to deal with.
No thanks. The numbers don't lie. A side impact rating of 3 is awful.
The tiny Kia did better!


RB
35s5
NY

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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And a better roll over rating than a Tribeca!


Actually, the Corolla scores an 8, while the Tribeca scores a 6. The
Tribeca is tested with vehicle stability and traction control turned
off as with all tests of vehicles of this type. That means the Tribeca
exceeds the rollover rating of the Corolla....and is safer in every
way. No one picks a Corolla for any other reason but low cost. As a 3rd
car, it's still to cheap to deal with.
No thanks. The numbers don't lie. A side impact rating of 3 is awful.
The tiny Kia did better!


RB
35s5
NY

Traction and stability control don't help roll overs unless they lower the
center of gravity or the roll over is end to end.

The Corolla is my 5th car.

Numbers don't lie, nor do they make conclusions.

Curious how published ratings don't match what you claim:

http://www.internetautoguide.com/cra...969/index.html

The Tribeca:

http://www.internetautoguide.com/cra...eca/index.html

As one can plainly see the roll over rating of the Corolla is 4 and the
Tribeca is 6. Also the Corolla ranks 4 or 5 for side impacts. Plus it is
faster through the cones than the Tribeca, even when the Tribeca uses the
traction and stability control. Wings on a pig don't make it fly.

Rob, stop hitting yourself in the head with folding chairs. Even Krusty
tripped over the ropes climbing into the ring.

So tell me about your bicycles.

Traction and stability control don't help roll overs unless they lower
the
center of gravity or the roll over is end to end.



Wow, Bob. Did you actually write the comment above? Most rollovers are
preceded by a loss of control, followed by lateral sliding combined
with suspension pumping. Traction control, anti lock brakes and
stability control all help a driver regain control BEFORE this happens.
One reason testers defeat TC and ESC when possible is so they CAN get
the chassis in the air to make the numbers.
Do more research and get back to me.


RB
35s5
NY

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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Traction and stability control don't help roll overs unless they lower
the
center of gravity or the roll over is end to end.



Wow, Bob. Did you actually write the comment above?

Yes.

Most rollovers are
preceded by a loss of control, followed by lateral sliding combined
with suspension pumping.

Yes


Traction control, anti lock brakes and
stability control all help a driver regain control BEFORE this happens.

Yes

One reason testers defeat TC and ESC when possible is so they CAN get
the chassis in the air to make the numbers.

Yes

Do more research and get back to me.

Why? Regardless of traction and stability devices, the rolling moment of the
Tribeca is a function of weight and geometry. Once the correct moment is
applied to the car, it rolls.






RB
35s5
NY

Why? Regardless of traction and stability devices, the rolling moment
of the
Tribeca is a function of weight and geometry. Once the correct moment
is
applied to the car, it rolls.


As it is for all cars. But the Tribeca has a very good rating for an
SUV and is rated as one of the safest cars of any type available. It's
not only safe due to rollover resistance, it's also safe due to it's
AWD system which is now legendary. It also has the highest safety
rating for a crash. It just covers all the bases. The Sedona is rated
even higher (It's bigger and heavier of course), though even the Sedona
loses out to the AWD Subaru.
A Corolla is a rollerskate. Most people barely consider it a "car." I
don't even think it's safe to stand close to one.

RB
35s5
NY

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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Why? Regardless of traction and stability devices, the rolling moment
of the
Tribeca is a function of weight and geometry. Once the correct moment
is
applied to the car, it rolls.


As it is for all cars.

That's why the Corolla is intrinsincly less prone to roll overs.


But the Tribeca has a very good rating for an
SUV

But it is a lousy SUV.


and is rated as one of the safest cars of any type available.

But it is not available as a car.


It's
not only safe due to rollover resistance, it's also safe due to it's
AWD system which is now legendary.

Is the Tribeca's AWD exclusively legendary or is AWD legendary or is Subaru
AWD legendary?


It also has the highest safety
rating for a crash.

Plus it's more prone to crash, especially roll overs.

It just covers all the bases.

If you are playing baseball on a cricket field.



The Sedona is rated
even higher

The Sedona isn't alone.

(It's bigger and heavier of course), though even the Sedona
loses out to the AWD Subaru.

In what?

A Corolla is a rollerskate.

It tends not to roll. It is very economical, I'd call it a cheapskate. A
good, expensive way to roll is to buy a Tribeca. Do they put escape hatches
on the bottom of those things?

Most people barely consider it a "car."

I'm not most people.

I don't even think it's safe to stand close to one.

I wouldn't either. The last time I did a defective headlamp and axle flew
out of it and hit me in the leg!

This may be my last post here. I'm taking my Corolla a few blocks to the
donut shop. I don't know if I'll make it back. Pray for me!

Glory!

SUV
But it is a lousy SUV.


Says who? The Tribeca has been quite successful for Subaru and it's
really just a plush Outback VDC, which is also a very well regarded
car.


But it is not available as a car.


It's not a true SUV either. It's essentially an Outback VDC with a more
rigiditity and a extended rear.


Is the Tribeca's AWD exclusively legendary or is AWD legendary or is
Subaru
AWD legendary?

Both, but the Tribeca and VDC outback are the only versions that have
ESC and Traction control integrated with the AWD.

Plus it's more prone to crash, especially roll overs.

It's less prone to rollovers than your Corolla or most cars as you well
know by now. It's also more likely to protect it's passengers if it
does crash.

The Sedona isn't alone.

The Sedona is the highest safety rated minivan period. That's for 2005
and now the 2006 exceeded the previous numbers which places it well
ahead of the Honda and Toyota. Period.

It tends not to roll. It is very economical, I'd call it a
cheapskate.

It's pretty hard to make any car roll, even a Suzuki. The Tribeca with
it's ESC and TC is less likely to roll than a Corolla by a wide wide
margin. Sorry.

It is very economical, I'd call it a cheapskate

Saving for your hospital bills??? Good.

I'm not most people.

I should have said "most adults." The Corolla is a for teens.

I'm taking my Corolla a few blocks to the
donut shop. I don't know if I'll make it back. Pray for me!

Good Luck!


RB
35s5
NY

Legendary as in, "Paul Bunyan"?



As in the original Mothra or Rodan, who would later team up to fight
Ghidra with help from Godzilla.
As in a Pacer Wagon.
As in Jonathan Winters playing Mearth on Mork and Mindy.



RB
35s5
NY