Yup...the poor buy is posting reviews for the Kia Sedona from
2002-2005.
The 2006 Sedona is all new from the ground up.
DUH!!!!! (Now we're cookin'!!!)

Here's the show report on our 2006....more bad news for a jealous JL,
but who gets jealous over a van????
http://www.autobytel.com/content/sha...cle_id_int/323


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


RB
35s5
NY

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
ps.com...
Yup...the poor buy is posting reviews for the Kia Sedona from
2002-2005.
The 2006 Sedona is all new from the ground up.

It should be ground up.

DUH!!!!! (Now we're cookin'!!!)

Now you're Julia Child? Or Wolfgang Puck?

Here's the show report on our 2006....more bad news for a jealous JL,
but who gets jealous over a van????

Nah, he's not jealous--he's just jousting with the troll king of ASA. Why
would anyone be jealous of a fricking Kia soccer-mommobile, for cryin' out
loud.

Now Scotty's toaster--that's something to covet.

Max

Those who ignore history are bound to repeat it.
Never buy a new, from the ground up model, unless you are a gambler and risk
taker.

I just bought a new 2006 Acura MDX Touring model. I bought it BECAUSE they
were going to make radical changes in 2007. The 2006 has been refined and
improved through 4 model years and is near perfect, as vehicles go.
17 MPG in town, 34 MPG hwy at 50 MPH, 23 MPG at 75 MPH, 23.3 in my normal
mix of driving (first 2,300 miles). Has a great navigation system, backup
camera and sensors, Bluetooth, heated leather seats, AWD, OnStar, XM
satellite radio, DVD player & screens, dashboard tire pressure warning
lights, and other features too numerous too mention. Everything is
controlled by over 500 voice commands. Eg: Just say, "temperature 68" and
the car replies, "temperature 68 degrees," and then adjusts the temperature
as requested. It even came with software and cables to read the on board
diagnostics (OBD-II) and reset the check engine light, if you want to do all
the maintenance yourself.

Jealous? Now that's funny!!!!!!


"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
ps.com...
Yup...the poor buy is posting reviews for the Kia Sedona from
2002-2005.
The 2006 Sedona is all new from the ground up.
DUH!!!!! (Now we're cookin'!!!)

Here's the show report on our 2006....more bad news for a jealous JL,
but who gets jealous over a van????
http://www.autobytel.com/content/sha...cle_id_int/323


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!


RB
35s5
NY

I just bought a new 2006 Acura MDX Touring model. I bought it BECAUSE
they
were going to make radical changes in 2007.


You bought a dinosaur that Honda has been racing to replace for two
years! You DID NOT RESEARCH the car. The 2007 MDX addresses all of the
flaws in the old model. The worst flaw and the reason I chose a Subaru
Tribeca over the MDX is that the MDX loses ABS breaking when traction
control engages. The systems won't operate at the same time, causing a
pause between them. The Pilot suffers from the same problem.
The new MDX will be a great car, probably trumping the Tribeca after
correcting that flaw and adding even better handling and a LOT of
power. There is no 1st generation cars anymore. The new MDX will be
very refined and bug free, just like my Tribeca or the new Infinity
RX330.
The MDX is the ONLY SUV under 5000 lbs that can come close to matching
the Tribeca's crash rating., but the new MDX will have the most
car-like handling ever. Almost all current MDX's are leasing now
because everyone wants the new model when it comes along! It will be a
huge jump over the current model in every way. It will also slam resale
on the old models of course.
The two best SUV crossovers are the Infinity RX330 and the Subaru
Tribeca. Both have state of the art AWD systems, while the old MDX does
not.

Great move, JlRogers! You suuuure did your homework! I always what kind
of sod buys a car just as the improved model is being released. Now I
know!


RB
35s5
NY

Why would one want a 5000 lb vehicle to handle like a car?

Wouldn't it be safer and more prudent if one was constantly reminded through
the handling of the vehicle that it weighed 5000 lbs, especially when it
comes to stopping, cornering and for economy when accelerating?

My solution to this whole mess is to outlaw power steering. Then these
"soccer moms" in those 5000 lb SUV's wouldn't have two free hands (one for
the cell phone, the other to eat the burrito) while they are driving at
30+mph through a school zone loaded with kids.

That or bomb the oil fields.

Amen!

Wouldn't it be safer and more prudent if one was constantly reminded
through
the handling of the vehicle that it weighed 5000 lbs, especially when
it
comes to stopping, cornering and for economy when accelerating?


No way. Car like handling refers to good handling that can get a driver
out of trouble faster than a ponderous truck. These crossovers weigh
over two tons, but they have tweaked them so that they are not
ponderous to drive and have excellent stopping. The whole point is to
NOT end up with a truck.

RB
35s5
NY

--
"Swab Rob" wrote

No way. Car like handling refers to good handling that can
get a driver
out of trouble faster than a ponderous truck.

learn how to drive, asshole!


Scotty, 1,567,000 accident free miles.

I am really tired of them. In addition to banning ps, we need to ban cell
phones for certain individuals while driving. If you have a child in the
car, the driver should be banned from using the cell phone. A woman just ran
over a crossing guard (fortunately didn't die) while chatting on her phone.
She had three kids in the car, including an infant.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
. ..
Why would one want a 5000 lb vehicle to handle like a car?

Wouldn't it be safer and more prudent if one was constantly reminded
through the handling of the vehicle that it weighed 5000 lbs, especially
when it comes to stopping, cornering and for economy when accelerating?

My solution to this whole mess is to outlaw power steering. Then these
"soccer moms" in those 5000 lb SUV's wouldn't have two free hands (one for
the cell phone, the other to eat the burrito) while they are driving at
30+mph through a school zone loaded with kids.

That or bomb the oil fields.

Amen!

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...


No way. Car like handling refers to good handling that can get a driver
out of trouble faster than a ponderous truck. These crossovers weigh
over two tons, but they have tweaked them so that they are not
ponderous to drive and have excellent stopping. The whole point is to
NOT end up with a truck.


They feel like a car. They are a truck especially considering the high Cg.
They roll over like trucks. In fact, much more frequently than cars.

Show me a 5000 lb SUV that handles the road cone slalom better than a Toyota
Corolla.

They feel like a car. They are a truck especially considering the high
Cg.
They roll over like trucks. In fact, much more frequently than cars.



My Tribeca has an VG rollover rating, outhandles a Toyota Corolla of
course and doesn't just "feel" like a car, it handles better than quite
a few both in grip, handling, stopping and so on. There's no excuse for
bad handling in 4-5000 lb vehicle any more. Even my new van handles
quite well compared to the older models out there and it has the power
to get clear of trouble as well.
Or as Autobytel found in their preview test drive of the Kia..

Falling somewhere between the taut Honda Odyssey and the soft Toyota
Sienna, the 2006 Kia Sedona's suspension provides a great blend of
ride and handling, but occasionally the driver can feel a rubbery lack
of wheel control over bad pavement. It's not harsh, and it's not
loud, and it could probably be erased altogether with additional
tuning. Handling is impressive for a minivan, as we discovered during a
downhill run from the Palomar Mountain area that included multiple
25-mph hairpin turns. Pitching the Sedona into those hairpins at twice
the recommended speed resulted in plenty of body roll and tire scrub,
but in high-speed sweepers the 2006 Kia Sedona's weight transitions
predictably and the tires offer good grip.

And of course the Tribeca handles even better with it's 18" wheels and
AWD.


RB
35s5
NY