"Joe" wrote in message
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Katy we have a unique Goose episode developing here at the marina.
We have a big almost crippled big badass hissing and honking Goose(he
limps around) here in the marina. He had a one eye gander but some
idiot backed up and ran her over a few weeks ago in the shiyard. He
looked for her for a week or so and found a duck sitting on 11 eggs
along the rocks here by my boat. He is standing guard over the duck
24/7, ran off all the male mallards. I think the duck likes him, lots
of people feed him, and she gets a free ride.

Questions:

Will the ducklings think he is the dad when they hatch?
Should I explain to him what happened to his Gander?
I thought about taking him to the Vet to see if he has something in his
foot, but I'm afraid we would injure him in the attempt. Do they have
Goose sleeping pills I can slip to him in a slice of bread?

I think you should volunteer to be the daddy to those ducklings, Joe. If
you waddle and quack a lot they might just buy into it.

Max

Maxprop wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
Katy we have a unique Goose episode developing here at the marina.
We have a big almost crippled big badass hissing and honking Goose(he
limps around) here in the marina. He had a one eye gander but some
idiot backed up and ran her over a few weeks ago in the shiyard. He
looked for her for a week or so and found a duck sitting on 11 eggs
along the rocks here by my boat. He is standing guard over the duck
24/7, ran off all the male mallards. I think the duck likes him, lots
of people feed him, and she gets a free ride.

Questions:

Will the ducklings think he is the dad when they hatch?
Should I explain to him what happened to his Gander?
I thought about taking him to the Vet to see if he has something in his
foot, but I'm afraid we would injure him in the attempt. Do they have
Goose sleeping pills I can slip to him in a slice of bread?

I think you should volunteer to be the daddy to those ducklings, Joe. If
you waddle and quack a lot they might just buy into it.

Max


Frankly, I don't think he has to learn to waddle or quack...he does
that here all the time...

In article . net,
Maxprop wrote:

"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
. ..
In article et,
Maxprop wrote:

"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...

Brutal murder? My ass! It's no worse than what we do to millions of
pigs and cows every year.

Hardly. Most domesticated farm animals slaughtered for food and hides
are
sacrificed with a device termed a "humane killer," which is little more
than
a gun that blows the brains to mush instantly, obviating pain on the part
of
the animal. The animal is generally dead before it hits the ground.

Pretty true, Max, except - have you ever been in an abbatoir? Seen the
slaughter line? Seen how the beasts are handled *before* they even get
there?

I have. I wrote software for a research project dealing with feedlots
and spent a lot of time close up & personal with all of this stuff.
That was 10 years ago and I haven't forgotten it. You haven't a clue of
just how much suffering and fear those beasts go through prior to their
quick and painless death.

Actually I have. I've watched the process at three separate slaughter
houses, and yes it ain't pretty. But it's hardly clubbing the animals,
skinning them while still alive, and allowing them to die in agony.

Nope, it's raising them in confined pens, feeding them rations
formulated to maximise weight gain and desired marbling, loading them
onto trucks using cattle prods and the like, transporting them to a
place of slaughter where they are usually deprived of food & water, or
at least on minimum rations, then forcing them through more races to a
place of slaughter, where they can smell the ones in front dying.

What is
even more disgusting is that the infant harp seals have no reason to
mistrust the hunters, so they eagerly approach them. After the pups are
clubbed and skinned, they bay pitifully for up to an hour as they slowly
bleed out. The mothers typically hover over their dying pups, trying in
vain to comfort them. It's cruel and inhumane.

You're making a really, really bad comparison between
institutionalised, factory slaughter and clubbing cute little seals to
death.

S'cuse me? I didn't make that comparison--Martin B. did.

Both are abhorrent.

Perhaps, but the differences are profound. Perhaps you should view a harp
seal harvest before making such ridiculous claims.

What ridiculous claims have I made? I said that *both* were abhorrent.
Is this a ridiculous claim?

I think clubbing, and then live-skinning, any animal should be a
criminal offence. I don't care if they're being killed, as long as it's
fast & humane and the kill is within sustainable harvest levels.

As for intensively farmed livestock, the *only* bit of their lives that
may be described as humane is the kill. The differences aren't as
profound as you might like to believe.

PDW

In article , DSK
wrote:

Manly! Did you eat the liver?


Capt.Mooron wrote:
Matter of fact.. No.... but I ate raw caribou kidney!

Gee that sounds lovely.
And you wonder why people turn down your dinner invitations!

Can't see the problem meself. We used to catch tuna and they'd be on
the plate as sashimi, flesh still quivering with remnant nerve
impulses, while we cracked the beer & wasabi sauce.

PDW

In article , Bob Crantz
wrote:

"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
. ..
In article et,
Maxprop wrote:

"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...
Maxprop wrote:

"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
. ..
Lots of batting practice:

http://tinyurl.com/o9owv

The brutal murder of harp seal pups still evokes a visceral reaction
after
all these years. Think how much better the US baseball team would be
if
we
could bash the skulls of those Canadian hunters. I'm betting Dusty
Baker
could probably raise the Cubs' team average by .200.

Max

Brutal murder? My ass! It's no worse than what we do to millions of
pigs and cows every year.

Hardly. Most domesticated farm animals slaughtered for food and hides
are
sacrificed with a device termed a "humane killer," which is little more
than
a gun that blows the brains to mush instantly, obviating pain on the part
of
the animal. The animal is generally dead before it hits the ground.

Pretty true, Max, except - have you ever been in an abbatoir? Seen the
slaughter line? Seen how the beasts are handled *before* they even get
there?

I have. I wrote software for a research project dealing with feedlots
and spent a lot of time close up & personal with all of this stuff.
That was 10 years ago and I haven't forgotten it. You haven't a clue of
just how much suffering and fear those beasts go through prior to their
quick and painless death.

You're making a really, really bad comparison between
institutionalised, factory slaughter and clubbing cute little seals to
death.

Both are abhorrent.

PDW

Great point!

That's why hunting is more humane than a slaughterhouse.

The anti-hunters haven't a clue!

Damn right. One second peacefully grazing in the field, the next dead
from a brain shot. I spent a huge amount of time in my teens thru to my
40's hunting.

PDW

In article . net,
Maxprop wrote:

"katy" wrote in message
...
Maxprop wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...
Maxprop wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...
DSK wrote:
Martin Baxter wrote:
Huh? If it's global warming, Green Peace is full of ****, if it's
seals
then Green Peaces' line is Gospel?

Right.

One of the funniest things about neoconservatives is that they live
in a constant state of self-contradiction.


Would you deny the noble Red Man his traditional way of living?

Yes.

After all, I'm not being allowed to continue my traditional and
culurally hallowed way of life. Why should anybody else, dammit?

DSK

I concur....if the noble Red Man can do what he wants, then I should
be able to partake in certain Druidic sacrificial rituals....
You already do, Katy. I once witnessed you performing such a Druidic
ritual on a swan on the end of a finger pier. g

Max
That wasn't Druidic...that was communicating....I always talk to
birds..they like me and I like them....
Did you see me having a conversation with the heron? BTW, I believe
Roni has a picture of one of my bird conversations somewhere....

She does. Say, do those birds talk back? If so, what are they saying?

(I wish you were still here to tell them to quit crapping on my dock.)

Max
Of course they do...we discuss the weather, the condition of the lake, and
whether the fishing is any good. We also discuss their vactions. Birds
are fascinating conversationalist if you just listen.

Yeah, especially the gulls, if you can get a word in edgewise.

"Mine. Mine. Mine."

seagull = winged rat.

PDW

In article . net,
Maxprop wrote:

"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...

Huh? If it's global warming, Green Peace is full of ****, if it's seals
then Green Peaces' line is Gospel?

You read selectively, Martin. I admitted to Jon Ganz that I believe global
warming is real and, at least to some extent, caused by the activities of
humans. What I didn't buy was to what extent the enviro-extremists claim it
will affect our climate or way of life.

Would you deny the noble Red Man his traditional way of living?

Are you claiming the "noble Red Man" is incapable of learning humane methods
of seal harvesting? That's incredibly racist on your part, Martin.

The Japanese haven't learnt humane ways of killing whales. That's
probably because there isn't one.

PDW

"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
. ..
seagull = winged rat.

PDW

I thought that until I saw one standing on top of a log, which was floating
vertically in the water. If it hadn't been for the gull, I would have missed
the log and the boat would have probably been holed.

"Peter Wiley" wrote
Can't see the problem meself. We used to catch tuna and
they'd be on
the plate as sashimi, flesh still quivering with remnant
nerve
impulses, while we cracked the beer & wasabi sauce.

I've swallowed live gold Fish, that were still swimming when
they 'came out'.

Scotty

Scotty wrote:


I've swallowed live gold Fish, that were still swimming when
they 'came out'.


That goes a long way toward explaining some of your behavior!

Cheers
Marty
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