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![]() "Bob Crantz" wrote in message . .. Lots of batting practice: http://tinyurl.com/o9owv The brutal murder of harp seal pups still evokes a visceral reaction after all these years. Think how much better the US baseball team would be if we could bash the skulls of those Canadian hunters. I'm betting Dusty Baker could probably raise the Cubs' team average by .200. Max |
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Maxprop wrote:
"Bob Crantz" wrote in message . .. Lots of batting practice: http://tinyurl.com/o9owv The brutal murder of harp seal pups still evokes a visceral reaction after all these years. Think how much better the US baseball team would be if we could bash the skulls of those Canadian hunters. I'm betting Dusty Baker could probably raise the Cubs' team average by .200. Max Brutal murder? My ass! It's no worse than what we do to millions of pigs and cows every year. You do realize that nobody has taken a white coat in over twenty years? Cheers Marty |
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Whats the difference if it's a white coat or not? Just a few weeks
time. But culling the heard may be the best way to preserve and strengthen the species.And the hunters may be doing more to preserve and protect the seals than any others. I would rather see laws restricting the age to one yr + before the seals can be killed, but the russians women do not like scars on thier pelts, they prefer soft as a babies bottom furs. I would imagine Max might cut down on his big macs and steaks if he spent a day at a slaughter house. Not much difference in a club and a hydralic ram. Joe |
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I would imagine Max might cut down on his big macs and steaks if he spent a day at a slaughter house. Not much difference in a club and a hydralic ram. Indeed! My wife's father used to do it with a sledge, but he was Irish and likely drunk at the time! For sure most people wouldn't touch anything that said "Mechanically separated", means they used pressure washer to scour the flesh of the bones and then strained the bigger pieces out of the slurry to make into hot-dogs. Cheers Marty |
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![]() "Joe" wrote in message oups.com... Whats the difference if it's a white coat or not? Just a few weeks time. But culling the heard may be the best way to preserve and strengthen the species.And the hunters may be doing more to preserve and protect the seals than any others. I would rather see laws restricting the age to one yr + before the seals can be killed, but the russians women do not like scars on thier pelts, they prefer soft as a babies bottom furs. I would imagine Max might cut down on his big macs and steaks if he spent a day at a slaughter house. Not much difference in a club and a hydralic ram. The whole of North America could get by on three or four steers a year if everyone ate as little beef as I do. But there is a huge difference between a club and your hydraulic ram (not sure where those are used, but the slaughterhouses I've seen use guns with light explosive-charge bullets). The clubbed seals die a lingering, painful death, while the sacrificed steers die instantly. Max |
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![]() "Martin Baxter" wrote in message ... Maxprop wrote: "Bob Crantz" wrote in message . .. Lots of batting practice: http://tinyurl.com/o9owv The brutal murder of harp seal pups still evokes a visceral reaction after all these years. Think how much better the US baseball team would be if we could bash the skulls of those Canadian hunters. I'm betting Dusty Baker could probably raise the Cubs' team average by .200. Max Brutal murder? My ass! It's no worse than what we do to millions of pigs and cows every year. Hardly. Most domesticated farm animals slaughtered for food and hides are sacrificed with a device termed a "humane killer," which is little more than a gun that blows the brains to mush instantly, obviating pain on the part of the animal. The animal is generally dead before it hits the ground. The harp seal thugs club the poor things until they are immobile, but often not dead. The pups lie there, some for hours, dying in agony, having been live-scalped. And they leave the fur-stripped carcasses to rot on the snow. You do realize that nobody has taken a white coat in over twenty years? Your point? They are still clubbing the pups to death in an inhumane way. The problem is only partly the Canadian seal "hunters." The European market for such furs is the other part. Max |
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Maxprop wrote: "Martin Baxter" wrote in message ... Maxprop wrote: "Bob Crantz" wrote in message . .. Lots of batting practice: http://tinyurl.com/o9owv The brutal murder of harp seal pups still evokes a visceral reaction after all these years. Think how much better the US baseball team would be if we could bash the skulls of those Canadian hunters. I'm betting Dusty Baker could probably raise the Cubs' team average by .200. Max Brutal murder? My ass! It's no worse than what we do to millions of pigs and cows every year. Hardly. Most domesticated farm animals slaughtered for food and hides are sacrificed with a device termed a "humane killer," which is little more than a gun that blows the brains to mush instantly, obviating pain on the part of the animal. The animal is generally dead before it hits the ground. Pretty true, Max, except - have you ever been in an abbatoir? Seen the slaughter line? Seen how the beasts are handled *before* they even get there? I have. I wrote software for a research project dealing with feedlots and spent a lot of time close up & personal with all of this stuff. That was 10 years ago and I haven't forgotten it. You haven't a clue of just how much suffering and fear those beasts go through prior to their quick and painless death. You're making a really, really bad comparison between institutionalised, factory slaughter and clubbing cute little seals to death. Both are abhorrent. PDW |
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![]() "Peter Wiley" wrote in message . .. In article et, Maxprop wrote: "Martin Baxter" wrote in message ... Brutal murder? My ass! It's no worse than what we do to millions of pigs and cows every year. Hardly. Most domesticated farm animals slaughtered for food and hides are sacrificed with a device termed a "humane killer," which is little more than a gun that blows the brains to mush instantly, obviating pain on the part of the animal. The animal is generally dead before it hits the ground. Pretty true, Max, except - have you ever been in an abbatoir? Seen the slaughter line? Seen how the beasts are handled *before* they even get there? I have. I wrote software for a research project dealing with feedlots and spent a lot of time close up & personal with all of this stuff. That was 10 years ago and I haven't forgotten it. You haven't a clue of just how much suffering and fear those beasts go through prior to their quick and painless death. Actually I have. I've watched the process at three separate slaughter houses, and yes it ain't pretty. But it's hardly clubbing the animals, skinning them while still alive, and allowing them to die in agony. What is even more disgusting is that the infant harp seals have no reason to mistrust the hunters, so they eagerly approach them. After the pups are clubbed and skinned, they bay pitifully for up to an hour as they slowly bleed out. The mothers typically hover over their dying pups, trying in vain to comfort them. It's cruel and inhumane. You're making a really, really bad comparison between institutionalised, factory slaughter and clubbing cute little seals to death. S'cuse me? I didn't make that comparison--Martin B. did. Both are abhorrent. Perhaps, but the differences are profound. Perhaps you should view a harp seal harvest before making such ridiculous claims. Max |
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![]() "Peter Wiley" wrote in message . .. In article et, Maxprop wrote: "Martin Baxter" wrote in message ... Maxprop wrote: "Bob Crantz" wrote in message . .. Lots of batting practice: http://tinyurl.com/o9owv The brutal murder of harp seal pups still evokes a visceral reaction after all these years. Think how much better the US baseball team would be if we could bash the skulls of those Canadian hunters. I'm betting Dusty Baker could probably raise the Cubs' team average by .200. Max Brutal murder? My ass! It's no worse than what we do to millions of pigs and cows every year. Hardly. Most domesticated farm animals slaughtered for food and hides are sacrificed with a device termed a "humane killer," which is little more than a gun that blows the brains to mush instantly, obviating pain on the part of the animal. The animal is generally dead before it hits the ground. Pretty true, Max, except - have you ever been in an abbatoir? Seen the slaughter line? Seen how the beasts are handled *before* they even get there? I have. I wrote software for a research project dealing with feedlots and spent a lot of time close up & personal with all of this stuff. That was 10 years ago and I haven't forgotten it. You haven't a clue of just how much suffering and fear those beasts go through prior to their quick and painless death. You're making a really, really bad comparison between institutionalised, factory slaughter and clubbing cute little seals to death. Both are abhorrent. PDW Great point! That's why hunting is more humane than a slaughterhouse. The anti-hunters haven't a clue! Glory! |
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