"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
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In article et,
Maxprop wrote:

"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
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Maxprop wrote:

"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
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Lots of batting practice:

http://tinyurl.com/o9owv

The brutal murder of harp seal pups still evokes a visceral reaction
after
all these years. Think how much better the US baseball team would be
if
we
could bash the skulls of those Canadian hunters. I'm betting Dusty
Baker
could probably raise the Cubs' team average by .200.

Max

Brutal murder? My ass! It's no worse than what we do to millions of
pigs and cows every year.

Hardly. Most domesticated farm animals slaughtered for food and hides
are
sacrificed with a device termed a "humane killer," which is little more
than
a gun that blows the brains to mush instantly, obviating pain on the part
of
the animal. The animal is generally dead before it hits the ground.

Pretty true, Max, except - have you ever been in an abbatoir? Seen the
slaughter line? Seen how the beasts are handled *before* they even get
there?

I have. I wrote software for a research project dealing with feedlots
and spent a lot of time close up & personal with all of this stuff.
That was 10 years ago and I haven't forgotten it. You haven't a clue of
just how much suffering and fear those beasts go through prior to their
quick and painless death.

You're making a really, really bad comparison between
institutionalised, factory slaughter and clubbing cute little seals to
death.

Both are abhorrent.

PDW

Great point!

That's why hunting is more humane than a slaughterhouse.

The anti-hunters haven't a clue!

Glory!

"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
...

Great point!

That's why hunting is more humane than a slaughterhouse.


*If* you're a good shot.

Scotty












The anti-hunters haven't a clue!

Glory!

In article , Bob Crantz
wrote:

"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
. ..
In article et,
Maxprop wrote:

"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...
Maxprop wrote:

"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
. ..
Lots of batting practice:

http://tinyurl.com/o9owv

The brutal murder of harp seal pups still evokes a visceral reaction
after
all these years. Think how much better the US baseball team would be
if
we
could bash the skulls of those Canadian hunters. I'm betting Dusty
Baker
could probably raise the Cubs' team average by .200.

Max

Brutal murder? My ass! It's no worse than what we do to millions of
pigs and cows every year.

Hardly. Most domesticated farm animals slaughtered for food and hides
are
sacrificed with a device termed a "humane killer," which is little more
than
a gun that blows the brains to mush instantly, obviating pain on the part
of
the animal. The animal is generally dead before it hits the ground.

Pretty true, Max, except - have you ever been in an abbatoir? Seen the
slaughter line? Seen how the beasts are handled *before* they even get
there?

I have. I wrote software for a research project dealing with feedlots
and spent a lot of time close up & personal with all of this stuff.
That was 10 years ago and I haven't forgotten it. You haven't a clue of
just how much suffering and fear those beasts go through prior to their
quick and painless death.

You're making a really, really bad comparison between
institutionalised, factory slaughter and clubbing cute little seals to
death.

Both are abhorrent.

PDW

Great point!

That's why hunting is more humane than a slaughterhouse.

The anti-hunters haven't a clue!

Damn right. One second peacefully grazing in the field, the next dead
from a brain shot. I spent a huge amount of time in my teens thru to my
40's hunting.

PDW

"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
. ..
In article , Bob Crantz
wrote:

"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
. ..
In article et,
Maxprop wrote:

"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...
Maxprop wrote:

"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
. ..
Lots of batting practice:

http://tinyurl.com/o9owv

The brutal murder of harp seal pups still evokes a visceral
reaction
after
all these years. Think how much better the US baseball team would
be
if
we
could bash the skulls of those Canadian hunters. I'm betting Dusty
Baker
could probably raise the Cubs' team average by .200.

Max

Brutal murder? My ass! It's no worse than what we do to millions of
pigs and cows every year.

Hardly. Most domesticated farm animals slaughtered for food and hides
are
sacrificed with a device termed a "humane killer," which is little
more
than
a gun that blows the brains to mush instantly, obviating pain on the
part
of
the animal. The animal is generally dead before it hits the ground.

Pretty true, Max, except - have you ever been in an abbatoir? Seen the
slaughter line? Seen how the beasts are handled *before* they even get
there?

I have. I wrote software for a research project dealing with feedlots
and spent a lot of time close up & personal with all of this stuff.
That was 10 years ago and I haven't forgotten it. You haven't a clue of
just how much suffering and fear those beasts go through prior to their
quick and painless death.

You're making a really, really bad comparison between
institutionalised, factory slaughter and clubbing cute little seals to
death.

Both are abhorrent.

PDW

Great point!

That's why hunting is more humane than a slaughterhouse.

The anti-hunters haven't a clue!

Damn right. One second peacefully grazing in the field, the next dead
from a brain shot. I spent a huge amount of time in my teens thru to my
40's hunting.

You shoot for the head??? Interesting, and most unorthodox.

Max

"Maxprop" wrote in message

You shoot for the head??? Interesting, and most unorthodox.

WTF??? Of course you do a head shot if possible. Only an American who
couldn't hit the broad side of a barn while locked inside goes for a chest
shot.
One shot... one drop.

CM

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"Maxprop" wrote in message

You shoot for the head??? Interesting, and most unorthodox.

WTF??? Of course you do a head shot if possible. Only an American who
couldn't hit the broad side of a barn while locked inside goes for a chest
shot.
One shot... one drop.

Makes for a really ugly trophy on the wall. Or perhaps you like those
gaping exit wounds on yours.

I was taught by a very experienced hunter--my grandfather--who learned to
hunt with black powder calibers just after the turn of the century. A deer
skull was plenty thick enough to deflect a simple lead bullet if hit in a
thicker cranial area. So the proper shot was a heart shot--ribs penetrate
easily. Still is, at least according to those with far more experience than
I have. Perhaps our deer down here are more intelligent and able to easily
detect a hunter who's close enough to take a head shot. Canadian deer =
idiots.

Max

"Maxprop" wrote in message

Makes for a really ugly trophy on the wall. Or perhaps you like those
gaping exit wounds on yours.

Hunt for Trophys.... and you dare speak out against clubbing seals???


I was taught by a very experienced hunter--my grandfather--who learned to
hunt with black powder calibers just after the turn of the century. A
deer skull was plenty thick enough to deflect a simple lead bullet if hit
in a thicker cranial area. So the proper shot was a heart shot--ribs
penetrate easily. Still is, at least according to those with far more
experience than I have. Perhaps our deer down here are more intelligent
and able to easily detect a hunter who's close enough to take a head shot.
Canadian deer = idiots.

Proof positive you are no hunter, and can't handle a firearm properly. Nuf
Said.

CM

"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message
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"Maxprop" wrote in message

Makes for a really ugly trophy on the wall. Or perhaps you like those
gaping exit wounds on yours.

Hunt for Trophys.... and you dare speak out against clubbing seals???

I don't hunt for trophys, but I presumed you--Nanook of Nova Scotia, eater
of raw caribou kidney--probably did. But since you brought up the point,
hunting kills an animal cleanly--clubbing doesn't. And 99.9% of hunters who
keep a trophy head also dine on the fruits of the carcasse. So there, nah,
nah.

I was taught by a very experienced hunter--my grandfather--who learned to
hunt with black powder calibers just after the turn of the century. A
deer skull was plenty thick enough to deflect a simple lead bullet if hit
in a thicker cranial area. So the proper shot was a heart shot--ribs
penetrate easily. Still is, at least according to those with far more
experience than I have. Perhaps our deer down here are more intelligent
and able to easily detect a hunter who's close enough to take a head
shot. Canadian deer = idiots.

Proof positive you are no hunter, and can't handle a firearm properly. Nuf
Said.

I hope you gain some satisfaction with such insipid remarks, because they
don't bother me in the least. Knowing your propensity for opening
mouth/inserting your size 13s, I expect such obtuse statements from you.
I'm confident you are not anywhere near my league with either a pistol,
rifle, or shotgun. You are also nowhere near Bobsprit's league as a Usenet
fisherman.

Max

"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message
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"Maxprop" wrote in message

Makes for a really ugly trophy on the wall. Or perhaps
you like those
gaping exit wounds on yours.

Hunt for Trophys.... and you dare speak out against
clubbing seals???


What's wrong with trophies? I have several chipmunk and
squirrel heads , and a pair of Robins, hanging on my den
wall.
You're starting to sound like a liberal.

SBV

In article k.net,
Maxprop wrote:

"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
. ..
In article , Bob Crantz
wrote:

"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
. ..
In article et,
Maxprop wrote:

"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...
Maxprop wrote:

"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
. ..
Lots of batting practice:

http://tinyurl.com/o9owv

The brutal murder of harp seal pups still evokes a visceral
reaction
after
all these years. Think how much better the US baseball team would
be
if
we
could bash the skulls of those Canadian hunters. I'm betting Dusty
Baker
could probably raise the Cubs' team average by .200.

Max

Brutal murder? My ass! It's no worse than what we do to millions of
pigs and cows every year.

Hardly. Most domesticated farm animals slaughtered for food and hides
are
sacrificed with a device termed a "humane killer," which is little
more
than
a gun that blows the brains to mush instantly, obviating pain on the
part
of
the animal. The animal is generally dead before it hits the ground.

Pretty true, Max, except - have you ever been in an abbatoir? Seen the
slaughter line? Seen how the beasts are handled *before* they even get
there?

I have. I wrote software for a research project dealing with feedlots
and spent a lot of time close up & personal with all of this stuff.
That was 10 years ago and I haven't forgotten it. You haven't a clue of
just how much suffering and fear those beasts go through prior to their
quick and painless death.

You're making a really, really bad comparison between
institutionalised, factory slaughter and clubbing cute little seals to
death.

Both are abhorrent.

PDW

Great point!

That's why hunting is more humane than a slaughterhouse.

The anti-hunters haven't a clue!

Damn right. One second peacefully grazing in the field, the next dead
from a brain shot. I spent a huge amount of time in my teens thru to my
40's hunting.

You shoot for the head??? Interesting, and most unorthodox.

Max, if I'm hunting for the pot, I'm not there to play games. I use a
spotlight and a scope sighted rifle shooting from the back of a 4WD,
and if I can't get a clean head shot, I don't shoot.

Simple.

If you shoot a kangaroo through the chest, even with a .243 using
hollow points, it's odds-on it's gonna run 150-200 metres before
bleeding out and stopping.

Rabbits, foxes & feral cats, OTOH, we used to shoot for fun. Chest
shots were plenty good enough.

PDW