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Smart move. :-) Despite all the crap people give you, I think it would be
interesting to hear a real sailing story from a Mac.

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Jon, the Mac is great, but I enjoy sailing other boats too. Obvously, the
larger boat is going to be more comfortable offshore in 25-knot winds and
35-degree temperatures. I'm not sure about the waves, but they were
breaking and bouncing us around fairly well.
Jim


Capt. JG wrote:

But you said that the wind was only 20-25.. were the waves over 20 ft?





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CNN, reporting on the US port / Arab security screw-up,
showed a pic of a ship dockside as a MAC 26x ''sailed'' by.

Scotty


"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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Smart move. :-) Despite all the crap people give you, I

think it would be
interesting to hear a real sailing story from a Mac.

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"Jim Cate" wrote in message
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Jon, the Mac is great, but I enjoy sailing other boats

too. Obvously, the
larger boat is going to be more comfortable offshore in

25-knot winds and
35-degree temperatures. I'm not sure about the waves,

but they were
breaking and bouncing us around fairly well.
Jim


Capt. JG wrote:

But you said that the wind was only 20-25.. were the

waves over 20 ft?







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Is that the one that finally sank on its own?

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"Scotty" wrote in message
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CNN, reporting on the US port / Arab security screw-up,
showed a pic of a ship dockside as a MAC 26x ''sailed'' by.

Scotty


"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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Smart move. :-) Despite all the crap people give you, I

think it would be
interesting to hear a real sailing story from a Mac.

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
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Jon, the Mac is great, but I enjoy sailing other boats

too. Obvously, the
larger boat is going to be more comfortable offshore in

25-knot winds and
35-degree temperatures. I'm not sure about the waves,

but they were
breaking and bouncing us around fairly well.
Jim


Capt. JG wrote:

But you said that the wind was only 20-25.. were the

waves over 20 ft?









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If it sank, it wasn't a Mac.

Jim



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Is that the one that finally sank on its own?




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In article ,
Jim Cate wrote:
If it sank, it wasn't a Mac.

Jim


Are you saying that the Mac is unsinkable? They said the same thing
about the Titanic.

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"Jim Cate" wrote
If it sailed, it wasn't a Mac.


Oh?


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Now Jon, you know darn well they *can't* sink. Positive
floatation, ya know?

Scotty


"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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Is that the one that finally sank on its own?

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"Scotty" wrote in message
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CNN, reporting on the US port / Arab security screw-up,
showed a pic of a ship dockside as a MAC 26x ''sailed''

by.

Scotty


"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
Smart move. :-) Despite all the crap people give you, I

think it would be
interesting to hear a real sailing story from a Mac.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...
Jon, the Mac is great, but I enjoy sailing other

boats
too. Obvously, the
larger boat is going to be more comfortable offshore

in
25-knot winds and
35-degree temperatures. I'm not sure about the

waves,
but they were
breaking and bouncing us around fairly well.
Jim


Capt. JG wrote:

But you said that the wind was only 20-25.. were the

waves over 20 ft?











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Sure Scotty. - Under some circumstances, it's actually possible that a
Mac might sink. - Like, if the skipper decided to remove the foam
floatation and stuff canned goods, anchors, gear, etc., into the
resulting cavities. Or, if a great white shark bashed in the side of
the boat and took a liking to the floatation material, muching it for
snacks. Or, if the boat were hit and cut apart by a boat without proper
watch, the motor and transom area might sink. But so far, I haven't
heard of that happening with a Mac. - Have you Scotty?

But speaking of sinking, how long will YOUR boat stay afloat if the
hull is compromised, or if one of the through-hulls comes loose, or if
one of the inlet tubes gets stiff and springs a leak while you are
asleep or in the cockpit? Is the hull/keel connection good and solid?
(Might have some internal rusting or other problems?) Have you checked
the through-hull valves recently to see whether they are, or might
become, frozen open? Got your emergency signals ready Scotty? Life raft
in good shape? Rudder shaft bearings packed well? Cooling system for the
motor in good shape? PFD's in good shape and working order? Can't be
too careful, Scotty. Better safe than sorry.

Jim




Scotty wrote:

Now Jon, you know darn well they *can't* sink. Positive
floatation, ya know?

Scotty


"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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Is that the one that finally sank on its own?

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"Scotty" wrote in message
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CNN, reporting on the US port / Arab security screw-up,
showed a pic of a ship dockside as a MAC 26x ''sailed''


by.


Scotty


"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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Smart move. :-) Despite all the crap people give you, I


think it would be


interesting to hear a real sailing story from a Mac.

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...


Jon, the Mac is great, but I enjoy sailing other


boats


too. Obvously, the


larger boat is going to be more comfortable offshore


in


25-knot winds and


35-degree temperatures. I'm not sure about the


waves,


but they were


breaking and bouncing us around fairly well.
Jim


Capt. JG wrote:



But you said that the wind was only 20-25.. were the


waves over 20 ft?















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"Jim Cate" wrote in message
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Sure Scotty. - Under some circumstances, it's actually

possible that a
Mac might sink. - Like, if the skipper decided to remove

the foam
floatation and stuff canned goods, anchors, gear, etc.,

into the
resulting cavities. Or, if a great white shark bashed in

the side of
the boat and took a liking to the floatation material,

muching it for
snacks. Or, if the boat were hit and cut apart by a boat

without proper
watch, the motor and transom area might sink. But so far,

I haven't
heard of that happening with a Mac. - Have you Scotty?


No, but I haven't smoked any weed for some time. That must
be some good **** you got there.



But speaking of sinking, how long will YOUR boat stay

afloat if the
hull is compromised, or if one of the through-hulls comes

loose, or if
one of the inlet tubes gets stiff and springs a leak while

you are
asleep or in the cockpit?


Well, she won't sink, my boat is on the hard.


Is the hull/keel connection good and solid?


Yup.


(Might have some internal rusting or other problems?)


Nope.

Have you checked
the through-hull valves recently to see whether they are,

or might
become, frozen open? Got your emergency signals ready

Scotty? Life raft
in good shape? Rudder shaft bearings packed well? Cooling

system for the
motor in good shape? PFD's in good shape and working

order? Can't be
too careful, Scotty. Better safe than sorry.


Yes, yes, yes, yes, and yes.

Scotty


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The bottom line is that unless someone deliberately removed its
floatation, the Mac isn't going to sink. Even if it's broken apart in
some highly improbable accident, at least one of the resulting
"sections" will float.

Scotty, haven't you ridden this rabbit trail long enough? Isn't there
anything else on the ng that might interest you other than bashing the
Macs and Mac owners? - Unless you have something substantive to add to
the discussion, which you apparently don't, let me suggest that you get
the hell off my back. - What you're actually doing is drawing
everyone's attention to your own problems.

Jim




Scotty wrote:

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
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Sure Scotty. - Under some circumstances, it's actually


possible that a


Mac might sink. - Like, if the skipper decided to remove


the foam


floatation and stuff canned goods, anchors, gear, etc.,


into the


resulting cavities. Or, if a great white shark bashed in


the side of


the boat and took a liking to the floatation material,


muching it for


snacks. Or, if the boat were hit and cut apart by a boat


without proper


watch, the motor and transom area might sink. But so far,


I haven't


heard of that happening with a Mac. - Have you Scotty?



No, but I haven't smoked any weed for some time. That must
be some good **** you got there.




Scotty







 
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