"katy" wrote in message
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Capt.Mooron wrote:
You have 2 choices here Scout.... approach it a little at a time or
undertake "Bobsprit's Revelation" - which states that deep snow provides
better traction than plowed snow.

CM

"Scout" wrote in message
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"Scotty" wrote in message
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I just measured 16'' here. And it's still snowing!!!!!!!
How's everybody else doing?

I was busy getting my John Deere fitted with a 42" snow thrower. I have a
lot to clear (no pun intended). Anyway, the pros at John Deere prepped
the tractor for the thrower when I bought it, but I'm guessing they never
read the instructions because they prepped it for an electric PTO; mine
is mechanical, and they knew that. Well, the thrower still fit, but I
didn't like how things looked, belts too tight, etc., so I dug out the
original manual and there it was. I remounted all the brackets and
shoulder bolts and so on, and she fired right. I hit the 15" of wet
spring snow and she plugged up like a fat man on a cheese diet.
Scout, waiting for a foot of powder snow.




We have Ford 1100 with a standard PTO but we also have front and rear
hydraulics. We also have a very long (200 ft) driveway, uphill....we use
a front blade to plow...forget the snow thrower...get a blade... (but we
didn't have to this year! hahahah)

I'm thinking a blade would be right for the main drive and a portion of the
road that I have to clear. I have a 98 Dodge Ram 2500 with the 5.9L. A blade
would fit nicely.
I hope your drive is uphill toward the house (i.e., house is higher than the
road).
Scout

"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message
news:N%5If.9018$bd4.6890@edtnps84...
Very probable..... sand & clays can combine.... reference
Clay, sandy, brwn, some gravels, trace silt.
Aggregate cap of 0.2m of crushed 15mm minus. The fractured face count of
over 90% ensures a lock.

What are you Bobsprit.... totally out of your league again?

Ha Ha Ha.... look...stay out of discussions about things you don't have a
clue about... like sailing, winter driving, tools and construction...
avoid embarrassment

I've already spread 60 tons of 2A modified and I'm looking to do another 200
tons over the summer - when my boys are home to help : )
I've got a good bit of macadam as well. Eventually I'd like to put macadam
on the stone, but in the meantime, it beats parking vehicles in the mud.
Scout

"Scotty" wrote in message
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"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message

Tell us, Mooron, what are the stopping distances on 6
inches of powder
vs. wet road above freezing?

What mass, speed and area of friction circle would be
involved in your
Hypothetical Scenario Bobsprit? What depth of Powder,
Temperature....
Standing Water?.... "road" is ambiguous Bobsprit...
Asphalt?, Concrete?,
Chip Seal?, Gravel?, Clay? .... has sand, de-icer or
calcium been added to
absorb water or melt ice?

Shall we engage a scenario you might be familiar with... a
city street?
You claim better traction in a foot of snow than on a
plowed street!! Didn't
You?

Heh Bobsprit.... you think Scotty notices 6 " of powder on
the road when
driving his rig?


Hell yeah, I notice. As soon as it starts snowing I get off
the road and drive through unplowed fields. Much better
traction!

Was that you driving through my back yard on Sunday?
Scout

aHEM.....I Believe you stated plainly that "And if you knew anything
about
driving you might know that a plowed street can be worse than
unplowed."


So now you're planning to backpedal and agree that it's the case with
many vehicles, but not Scotty's truck??
Oh, okay!!!!

Bwahahahahahahahaha! Mooron, you screwed the POOCH!


RB
35s5
NY

"Seahag" wrote ...
I slept
through the shoveling this time.

Why am I knot surprised?

"Scout" wrote in message
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"Scotty" wrote in message
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"Capt.Mooron" wrote in
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message

Tell us, Mooron, what are the stopping distances on 6
inches of powder
vs. wet road above freezing?

What mass, speed and area of friction circle would be
involved in your
Hypothetical Scenario Bobsprit? What depth of Powder,
Temperature....
Standing Water?.... "road" is ambiguous Bobsprit...
Asphalt?, Concrete?,
Chip Seal?, Gravel?, Clay? .... has sand, de-icer or
calcium been added to
absorb water or melt ice?

Shall we engage a scenario you might be familiar
with... a
city street?
You claim better traction in a foot of snow than on a
plowed street!! Didn't
You?

Heh Bobsprit.... you think Scotty notices 6 " of powder
on
the road when
driving his rig?


Hell yeah, I notice. As soon as it starts snowing I get
off
the road and drive through unplowed fields. Much better
traction!

Was that you driving through my back yard on Sunday?
Scout


Yes, I needed the traction.

S

"Scout" wrote in out of discussions
about things you don't have a
clue about... like sailing, winter driving, tools and
construction...
avoid embarrassment

I've already spread 60 tons of 2A modified and I'm looking
to do another 200
tons over the summer - when my boys are home to help : )
I've got a good bit of macadam as well. Eventually I'd
like to put macadam
on the stone, but in the meantime, it beats parking
vehicles in the mud.
Scout


Isn't it amazing how quickly 20 T of stone can disappear?


--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_

Scout wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...

Capt.Mooron wrote:

You have 2 choices here Scout.... approach it a little at a time or
undertake "Bobsprit's Revelation" - which states that deep snow provides
better traction than plowed snow.

CM

"Scout" wrote in message
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"Scotty" wrote in message
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I just measured 16'' here. And it's still snowing!!!!!!!
How's everybody else doing?

I was busy getting my John Deere fitted with a 42" snow thrower. I have a
lot to clear (no pun intended). Anyway, the pros at John Deere prepped
the tractor for the thrower when I bought it, but I'm guessing they never
read the instructions because they prepped it for an electric PTO; mine
is mechanical, and they knew that. Well, the thrower still fit, but I
didn't like how things looked, belts too tight, etc., so I dug out the
original manual and there it was. I remounted all the brackets and
shoulder bolts and so on, and she fired right. I hit the 15" of wet
spring snow and she plugged up like a fat man on a cheese diet.
Scout, waiting for a foot of powder snow.




We have Ford 1100 with a standard PTO but we also have front and rear
hydraulics. We also have a very long (200 ft) driveway, uphill....we use
a front blade to plow...forget the snow thrower...get a blade... (but we
didn't have to this year! hahahah)


I'm thinking a blade would be right for the main drive and a portion of the
road that I have to clear. I have a 98 Dodge Ram 2500 with the 5.9L. A blade
would fit nicely.
I hope your drive is uphill toward the house (i.e., house is higher than the
road).
Scout


Yes, our huse sits on the crest of a large hill overlooking the
Grand River valley...

"Bob Crantz" wrote:

"Seahag" wrote:
Someone put salt out, I reckon that was him. I slept
through the shoveling this time.

"Scotty" wrote:
So the Nazi isn't responsible for it?


Isn't that salt going to get into the ocean and do some
ecological damage?

I told them not to shovel or salt since traction is better
in snow!

Seahag

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
aHEM.....I Believe you stated plainly that "And if you knew anything
about
driving you might know that a plowed street can be worse than
unplowed."


So now you're planning to backpedal and agree that it's the case with
many vehicles, but not Scotty's truck??
Oh, okay!!!!

Bwahahahahahahahaha! Mooron, you screwed the POOCH!

There was no back pedal in any statement I made Bobsprit. Loss of control is
higher in an unplowed road than a plowed road.... it's a simple fact.
Scotty's truck has a huge amount of traction due to a combination of area
and number of friction circles provided by the tires. If you combine this
with the weight of the tractor and load.... then add the multiple gear
options... it has a much larger margin before loss of control becomes an
issue.

Now Bobsprit... when it comes to a frictionless surface like glare ice....
I don't care if your "Tribeca" has 30" wheels and 8 wheel drive.... or a
14" layer of powder overlying it.... you ain't goin' nowhere if you don't
have friction=traction.

Understand? ... now run along and stop telling people that unplowed streets
are safer than plowed streets okay?

Sheesh

CM