Found this newsgroup just a bit ago and have been reading. Can't get a
handle on it though. Seems as though it's not too serious about
sailing. Can someone recommend a good newsgroup for learning and
posting newbie questions, like "I have a fear of sailing with my husband"
Thanks.
Diane Clark
Central New York
Oneida Lake sailing

Dianna,
This NG periodically has something of interest to sailors, but not very
often. I have a filter set so if there is somthing - it stands out.

You might better try alt.sailing (no asa). There is a great deal less
traffic there, but it is almost always about sailing and it is read by
people that might be interested in helping you and not venting political
propaganda or bragging about some foolish event.

Matt Colie
Lifelong Waterman, Licensed Mariner and Perpetual Sailor

DC wrote:
Found this newsgroup just a bit ago and have been reading. Can't get a
handle on it though. Seems as though it's not too serious about
sailing. Can someone recommend a good newsgroup for learning and
posting newbie questions, like "I have a fear of sailing with my husband"
Thanks.
Diane Clark
Central New York
Oneida Lake sailing

"DC" wrote in message
...
Found this newsgroup just a bit ago and have been reading. Can't get a
handle on it though. Seems as though it's not too serious about sailing.
Can someone recommend a good newsgroup for learning and posting newbie
questions, like "I have a fear of sailing with my husband"
Thanks.
Diane Clark
Central New York
Oneida Lake sailing

Dear "I have a fear of sailing with my husband",

Although this group appears at first glance to be a sow's ear, you will find
it lined with silk... which in no way means it's a silk purse... just an
exquisitely lined sow's ear. Nonetheless.... this group has by far more
sailing oriented resources than any other NG.

Now please elaborate as to why you are squeamish about sailing with your
husband... other than that he is a New Yorker and thus genetically unable to
handle any vessel properly. Is he prone to yelling, tantrums and blaming you
for his inability and lack of confidence? Does he lack the ability to
instil in you a confidence and comfort while on a vessel?

I would suggest you contact Bobsprit on this group to take you out for a
sail. Robert is a totally house trained and obedient husband who owns an off
the rack sailboat and will never venture out of sight of land. This should
give you a benchmark to judge your own husband's status. Then you and
Roberts's wife Suzanne can decide on how to let your husband meet hers so he
can adopt some of Robert's submissive and obedient behaviour. This should go
a long way to assisting you in establishing control.

CM

So Matt.... why do you hang out here???


"Matt Colie" wrote in message
...
Dianna,
This NG periodically has something of interest to sailors, but not very
often. I have a filter set so if there is somthing - it stands out.

You might better try alt.sailing (no asa). There is a great deal less
traffic there, but it is almost always about sailing and it is read by
people that might be interested in helping you and not venting political
propaganda or bragging about some foolish event.

Matt Colie
Lifelong Waterman, Licensed Mariner and Perpetual Sailor

DC wrote:
Found this newsgroup just a bit ago and have been reading. Can't get a
handle on it though. Seems as though it's not too serious about sailing.
Can someone recommend a good newsgroup for learning and posting newbie
questions, like "I have a fear of sailing with my husband"
Thanks.
Diane Clark
Central New York
Oneida Lake sailing

Thanks Matt
Went to alt.sailing and it is pitiful with 13 messages starting with a
Hardcore message and wanting teenagers and on..... We have a 73 Balboa
22 ft. (I think). any other recommendations?

Matt Colie wrote:
Dianna,
This NG periodically has something of interest to sailors, but not
very often. I have a filter set so if there is somthing - it stands out.

You might better try alt.sailing (no asa). There is a great deal less
traffic there, but it is almost always about sailing and it is read by
people that might be interested in helping you and not venting
political propaganda or bragging about some foolish event.

Matt Colie
Lifelong Waterman, Licensed Mariner and Perpetual Sailor

DC wrote:
Found this newsgroup just a bit ago and have been reading. Can't get
a handle on it though. Seems as though it's not too serious about
sailing. Can someone recommend a good newsgroup for learning and
posting newbie questions, like "I have a fear of sailing with my
husband"
Thanks.
Diane Clark
Central New York
Oneida Lake sailing

YES YES YESS on this paragraph: "Now please elaborate as to why you
are squeamish about sailing with yourhusband... other than that he is a
New Yorker and thus genetically unable tohandle any vessel properly. Is
he prone to yelling, tantrums and blaming youfor his inability and lack
of confidence? Does he lack the ability toinstil in you a confidence and
comfort while on a vessel?"
Wish I had a Bobsprit but I don't, I have a rugby player, does that tell
you anything? lucky Suzanne! where do they sail from?
Diane Clark
Central New York
Dear "I have a fear of sailing with my husband",

Although this group appears at first glance to be a sow's ear, you will find
it lined with silk... which in no way means it's a silk purse... just an
exquisitely lined sow's ear. Nonetheless.... this group has by far more
sailing oriented resources than any other NG.

Now please elaborate as to why you are squeamish about sailing with your
husband... other than that he is a New Yorker and thus genetically unable to
handle any vessel properly. Is he prone to yelling, tantrums and blaming you
for his inability and lack of confidence? Does he lack the ability to
instil in you a confidence and comfort while on a vessel?

I would suggest you contact Bobsprit on this group to take you out for a
sail. Robert is a totally house trained and obedient husband who owns an off
the rack sailboat and will never venture out of sight of land. This should
give you a benchmark to judge your own husband's status. Then you and
Roberts's wife Suzanne can decide on how to let your husband meet hers so he
can adopt some of Robert's submissive and obedient behaviour. This should go
a long way to assisting you in establishing control.

CM

Dear Diane,

Oh boy can I relate to your question.

What you do is bring along lots of girlfriens who can quickly take
control of your boat if your husband faints, has a heatattack, or panic
attacks. Thats what I do, but do not let your husband in on our little
secret, it will crush him. Make him think all the girls are wild about
him.

The best thing to do is make sure you can swim btw.

SB
35s5
NY

"DC" wrote in message
...

YES YES YESS on this paragraph: "Now please elaborate as to why you
are squeamish about sailing with yourhusband... other than that he is a
New Yorker and thus genetically unable tohandle any vessel properly. Is he
prone to yelling, tantrums and blaming youfor his inability and lack of
confidence? Does he lack the ability toinstil in you a confidence and
comfort while on a vessel?"
Wish I had a Bobsprit but I don't, I have a rugby player, does that tell
you anything? lucky Suzanne! where do they sail from?

Well Dianne,
I sail a Nordica 30 from Prospect Bay in Nova Scotia. Rules on my vessel are
implicit... there is no yelling, the Captain is responsible for the orderly
progress and operations on the vessel. All quests and crew are to be relaxed
and enjoying themselves at all times. If a screw up occurs.. it is my
fault.... nobody else's. I am confident of my abilities and those of my
vessel. It irritates me when I see some clod screaming at his wife because
he lacks the abilities to correctly approach and position his boat to a
dock. I discuss where and what we are doing underway with the crew so
everyone is on the same playing field. If a crew member blows a hoist or
tack.... it's a chance to laugh it off and try it again. That's how you
learn.

I make a sincere effort to insure my crew is intoxicated, relaxed and the
only demands I make is that when my beer alarm sounds... crew will
immediately procure a re-supply.

That being said.... I suggest you get as many of your girlfriends together
and request your husband take you all out for a sail. This is called a "Hen
Frigate"... which is when a Captain allows a female to effect the orderly
progress of the vessel. This tactic has many benefits.. he is out-numbered,
he must be on his best behaviour, he will be forced to endure girl talk, he
will unknowingly be sensitized, he will be unable to turn you down since the
benefits to male status from having an all female crew is coveted. Do these
"Hen Frigate" cruises a few times... as his status among the males increases
he will gain confidence and be less prone to bursts of inconfidence.

I hope this helps.... :-)

CM

DC wrote:
Found this newsgroup just a bit ago and have been reading. Can't get a
handle on it though. Seems as though it's not too serious about
sailing. Can someone recommend a good newsgroup for learning and
posting newbie questions, like "I have a fear of sailing with my husband"
Thanks.
Diane Clark
Central New York
Oneida Lake sailing

Most of the folks here have been here for ages and have gone beyond
the question point.
Why do you have a fear of sailing with your husband? Is he unskilled?
Oftentimes it is best if women learn to sail from someone other than
their spouse/boyfriend/etc. Can you enroll in a Womanship class?
Remember too that any problems you have in land life will be
exacerbated within the small confines of a boat.

DC wrote:

YES YES YESS on this paragraph: "Now please elaborate as to why you
are squeamish about sailing with yourhusband... other than that he is a
New Yorker and thus genetically unable tohandle any vessel properly. Is
he prone to yelling, tantrums and blaming youfor his inability and lack
of confidence? Does he lack the ability toinstil in you a confidence and
comfort while on a vessel?"
Wish I had a Bobsprit but I don't, I have a rugby player, does that tell
you anything? lucky Suzanne! where do they sail from?
Diane Clark
Central New York

Dear "I have a fear of sailing with my husband",

Although this group appears at first glance to be a sow's ear, you
will find it lined with silk... which in no way means it's a silk
purse... just an exquisitely lined sow's ear. Nonetheless.... this
group has by far more sailing oriented resources than any other NG.

Now please elaborate as to why you are squeamish about sailing with
your husband... other than that he is a New Yorker and thus
genetically unable to handle any vessel properly. Is he prone to
yelling, tantrums and blaming you for his inability and lack of
confidence? Does he lack the ability to instil in you a confidence
and comfort while on a vessel?

I would suggest you contact Bobsprit on this group to take you out for
a sail. Robert is a totally house trained and obedient husband who
owns an off the rack sailboat and will never venture out of sight of
land. This should give you a benchmark to judge your own husband's
status. Then you and Roberts's wife Suzanne can decide on how to let
your husband meet hers so he can adopt some of Robert's submissive and
obedient behaviour. This should go a long way to assisting you in
establishing control.

CM


Like I said, enroll in a Womanship course or take private lessons at
a yacht club and learn more than he knows...and refuse to get on the
boat if he yells or demeans....