Doug,

If your Catboat carried the wide beam and "Barndoor Rudder" it was Cult
material.

I guess we should mention the "Atlantic City Catboat," with it balanced
inboard rudder. A lot of them around and are still in production. Good
Boats



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Thom Stewart wrote:
Doug,

If your Catboat carried the wide beam and "Barndoor Rudder" it was Cult
material.


Of course it did! It was a 22' LOA cat with (as near as I
can recall) a 500 Sq Ft gaff mainsail, the end of the boom
was about 4 feet aft of the transom. The rudder was not
truly a barn door, but it was bigger than a mid-size car
door, and geared to neat little old-fashioned steering
wheel. It was also the only boat I've ever owned that had
inside ballast... made me nervous when sailing hard, but no
trouble ever came. That was a fun boat, partly because I
could take lots of friends and still handle the sheet & helm
myself.

Ever climb up the mast by way of hoops?


I guess we should mention the "Atlantic City Catboat," with it balanced
inboard rudder. A lot of them around and are still in production. Good
Boats


Yes, they are still being raced enthusiastically on Barnegat
Bay... a cult boat for sure, and expensive enough to be a
real status symbol. My grandfather talked about racing
A-cats when he was young.

BTW Thom ever seen or sailed a sneakbox?

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

Not among sailors.

"Scotty" wrote
Mac 26 . Don't laugh, they have a cult following.

"Bob Crantz" wrote
What sailboats are considered cult sailboats?

On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 01:47:57 GMT, "Bob Crantz"
wrote:

What sailboats are considered cult sailboats?



Thistles ( did I spell that right?) At least I lived close to a fleet
of them and most of the members acted like cult members.

What sailboats are considered cult sailboats?




Frank Boettcher wrote:
Thistles ( did I spell that right?) At least I lived close to a fleet
of them and most of the members acted like cult members.

They are like cult members, and they have strange religious
beliefs too. I've had Thistle sailors actually complain to
me that 12 knots was too much wind for a good race!

DSK

"DSK" wrote in message
...
What sailboats are considered cult sailboats?




Frank Boettcher wrote:
Thistles ( did I spell that right?) At least I lived close to a fleet
of them and most of the members acted like cult members.

They are like cult members, and they have strange religious beliefs too.
I've had Thistle sailors actually complain to me that 12 knots was too
much wind for a good race!

A friggin' pansy, he was. I've raced Thistles in over 20 kts. It wasn't
really fun and we didn't fly the chute, but it was doable. The sailor who
complained to you was obviously one who failed to keep his boat upright
while tacking or gybing. The Thistle has no deck, so it will ship 200
gallons of water on a careless tack. That essentially puts one out of the
race, despite having several Supermax Elvstrom bailers in the bilge to get
rid of that misbegotten water.

Max

Thistles ( did I spell that right?) At least I lived close to a fleet
of them and most of the members acted like cult members.


They are like cult members, and they have strange religious beliefs too.
I've had Thistle sailors actually complain to me that 12 knots was too
much wind for a good race!


Maxprop wrote:
A friggin' pansy, he was.

No, just a skinny person with another skinny person & a kid
for crew.

... I've raced Thistles in over 20 kts.

Not sure if I have or not, at least the high teens though. I
would say (from the vantage point of a couple decades later)
that it was fun while it was happening, but caused a lot of
pain soon afterwards.


.... The Thistle has no deck, so it will ship 200
gallons of water on a careless tack.


According to Microsoft, that's a user-option feature!

As for Lightnings status as punishers, they're not as bad as
Thistles (and not as fast in light air), but a Lightning
crew... and to some extent, the skipper... must accept a
certain amount of pain to sail the boat actively. Another
great user-option feature, the centerboard as guillotine...
if that doesn't get you, the vang will try next!

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

"Frank Boettcher" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 01:47:57 GMT, "Bob Crantz"
wrote:

What sailboats are considered cult sailboats?



Thistles ( did I spell that right?) At least I lived close to a fleet
of them and most of the members acted like cult members.

Did they shave their heads and cut off their testicles?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven's_Gate_(cult)

Amen!

On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 14:36:09 GMT, "Bob Crantz"
wrote:


"Frank Boettcher" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 01:47:57 GMT, "Bob Crantz"
wrote:


Did they shave their heads and cut off their testicles?





No, just refused to acknowledge the existence of any other sailing
craft.

Did they shave their heads and cut off their testicles?



Frank Boettcher wrote:
No, just refused to acknowledge the existence of any other sailing
craft.

Could be equivalent... if you think about how many Thistle
sailors are basically saying that sailboat design has not
advanced since 1948...

OTOH the Thistle is possibly *the* best light-air sailboat
ever designed, a performance characteristic that I hope to
never put to the test... again, I mean

DSK