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At this point I've posted quite a few wins, not to mention the 35s5
leading the pack in races all over the world. Of course Sloco and
others just ignore most of them.
But this leads to a serious question. Considering that the 35s5 had
just over 400 hulls built, why do I find so many wins for it compared
to other hulls like the new C&C's, J's and other popular hulls. Some of
the 35s5's finish in the top few boats every time, while others,
obviously poorly sailed always trail. Naturally you can find even the
fastest boats losing consistently, but the 35s5 seems to have more than
it's fair share of wins relative to the amount of hulls built.
Here are just four more I turned up yesterday....

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.s...9d05061a38a23f

So...assuming that a 35s5 has a fair rating, are these wins more
attributed to the crew or the vessel? Is it safe to say that ANY boat
can win PHRF if well sailed and if so, why buy a faster more expensive
design when you can win just as easily...or more so...with a Hunter 30?
We plan to do very little racing. We only wanted a boat that was fast
and fun for local cruising and daysailing. So it really doesn't matter
if we can sail her to her rating.
So, since someone like Sloco only races, why did he bother to see out a
fast boat? Wouldn't he have been better served with something like a
Elite 326, a boat known to sail better than it's rating?

RB
35s5...the best fastest all around boat here!
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Here's another ignored win by Sloco for the 35s5... More wins for the
35s5 than most other boats I can find!


Didier Parez on See You Later Alligator, which had not wanted yet to
show its potential, gained the race of the day which was a course
around the island of Groix carried out in the direction reverses
needles of a watch.

Eric Blanckaert on Woolly Undertaken, with an excellent third place,
behind Philippe Massu(Equipages Center) sign a first place with the
General in front of CHANI of François Michelin

Today, the competitors will carry out a nautical course of
approximately 100milles, by circumventing Groix and Belle island for
rejondre the Trinity on sea, Thursday May 16.

Classification after three Races


1: "Wool Undertaken" (First 35s5 Q) Blanckaert Eric (8 pts) Yacht Club
Crouesty Arzon (Detail races: 4,1,3,)
2: "Chani" (Shamrock Golden delicious) Michelin François (9 pts) Y C
of the River mouths (Detail races: 1,3,5,)
3: "Crews Center" (Jpk 960 MOD) Massu Philippe (11 pts) National Union
For the Race With Broad (Detail races: 7,2,2,)
4: "Vp Ouest" (First 29 Gte) Duran Michel (17 pts) S N Trinite S/mer
(Detail races: 3,8,6,)
5: "Swimming pools Squares Blue" (Silver Shamrock) Villion Philippe (19
pts) S N Trinite S/mer (Detail races: 2,4,13,)
6: "Macadam" (Symphony Q) Metayer Jean (25 pts) S N Trinite S/mer
(Detail races: 5,5,15,)
7: "A.F.O.S." (Dash 31 Gte Q Lead) Ardon Yannick (25 pts) C N of Piriac
S/mer (Detail races: 10,6,9,)
8: "Etde" (First 31.7) Lebarbier Thierry (26 pts) Nautical Center of
Lorient (Detail races: 12,7,7,)
9: "Delfica II" (First 30 E S) Gerald Yves (33 pts) C N Marine of Brest
(Detail races: 9,12,12,)
10: "Nessie" (Arcadia Q) Kermarec François (41 pts) Nautical Club D
Antibes (Detail races: 6,16,19,)
11: "Salt Grain" (First 31.7) Allain Jerome (43 pts) S N Trinite S/mer
(Detail races: 15,20,8,)
12: "Fmpb-Leray-Carac" (Sun Small channel Q) Maignan Alain (44 pts) S N
Trinite S/mer (Detail races: 18,9,17,)
13: "Real Mallet" (Jpk 960) Firn Stephane (45 pts) S N Trinite S/mer
(Detail races: 20,21,4,)
14: "Hellodoc" (Sun Small channel Q) of White frost Tanneguy (56 pts) S
N Trinite S/mer (Detail races: 11,11,34,)
15: "Kalimotxo" (First 31.7) Bodereau Philippe (61 pts) Ste of Regates
Rochelaises (Detail races: 26,10,25,)
16: "George Cadoudal" (Dufour 34) Richomme Yannick (62 pts) S N Trinite
S/mer (Detail races: 31,17,14,)
17: "Gannet" (Feeling 1040 Gte) Barber Guy (65 pts) Yacht Club Crouesty
Arzon (Detail races: 23,22,20,)
18: "Module Creation" (First 31.7) Hamon Jean François (66 pts) S N
Trinite S/mer (Detail races: 24,18,24,)
19: "Gib' drunk" (Gibsea 302 Gte) Doumeret Yves (67 pts) Ste of Regates
Rochelaises (Detail races: 27,13,27,)
20: "See You Later Alligator" (Jpk 960) Avoid Didier (73 pts) Y C of L
Odet (Detail races: 13,59,1,)
21: "Maxsea Navnet" (One Barber) Machefaux Philippe (74 pts) C N
Coureau D Oleron (Detail races: 39,24,11,)
22: "Yachting Equipment" (First 31.7) Leguil Yves (76 pts) Yacht Club
Crouesty Arzon (Detail races: 14,46,16,)
23: "Agronomists, Veterinaires Without Borders" (Pogo 850) Duchemin
Domenica (76 pts) S N Trinite S/mer (Detail races: 25,29,22,)
24: "Tm6" (Sun Fast 32 I) Hamon Patrice (80 pts) S N Trinite S/mer
(Detail races: 16,43,21,)
25: "Rault.Fr" (Sun Fast 31 Gte) Gendreau Philippe (81 pts) Friends of
Conleau (Detail races: 21,31,29,)
26: "Rascal" (Gibsea 312 More) Herve Thierry (82 pts) Nautical Center
Of arradon (Detail races: 8,34,40,)
27: "Silver Fox" (Gibsea 90) Metayer Suzette (87 pts) S N Trinite S/mer
(Detail races: 38,23,26,)
28: "Blue Dream" (Sun Fast 32 Gte) Maumy Alain (87 pts) C V Pond of St
Quentin (Detail races: 34,25,28,)
29: "Nautical Leisures" (Sun Fast 32 Gte) Couedel Pierrick (88 pts) Y C
of Morlaix (Detail races: 41,15,32,)
30: "Bigaro" (First 31.7) Escalas Pierre (88 pts) (Detail races:
42,28,18,)
31: "K.Ma 2" (Sun Fast 32 Gte) Gouron Yves (94 pts) Yacht Club of
Quiberon (Detail races: 19,27,48,)
32: "Charly" (First 31.7) Metais Pierre (95 pts) National Union For the
Race With Broad (Detail races: 30,55,10,)
33: "Brother Coyote" (Sun Fast 32 Gte) Boutevin Alain (95 pts)
Decouverte And Developpement Navigation (Detail races: 28,36,31,)
34: "CAD" (Feeling 850 Racing) Dammed Hamel Hans (104.5 pts) S N
Trinite S/mer (Detail races: 29,40,35,)
35: "Guy Zag II" (Sun Fast 32 Gte) Raillard Florence (113 pts) Y C
Splits of Brest (Detail races: DNS,19,30)
36: "Ar Bir" (First 32 Gte) Mansord Philippe (113 pts) Yacht Club
Crouesty Arzon (Detail races: 32,32,49,)
37: "Large Wazoo" (First 31.7) Moissonnier Pierre (115 pts) C N of Viry
Chatillon (Detail races: 59,33,23,)
38: "Astrolabe II" (One Barber) Brichard Jean Michel (116 pts) Nautical
Center of Lorient (Detail races: 40,30,46,)
39: "Karriguel" (Oceanis 300) Desvaux Thierry (117 pts) Y C of L Odet
(Detail races: 36,44,37,)
40: "Schmilblick" (Delph 32 Gd Chechmate) Schmid Maxime (118 pts)
Nautical Center of Lorient (Detail races: 57,14,47,)
41: "Alhea" (First 31.7) Alba Bertrand (118 pts) Ste of Regates
Rochelaises (Detail races: 48,37,33,)
42: "Cfi Impression" (First 31.7) Delcroix Guy (118 pts) N D C Veils
Angers (Detail races: 33,41,44,)
43: "er Yoc' H" (First 325 Gte) Lefeuvre Charles (123 pts) Nautical
Center Of arradon (Detail races: 45,39,39,)
44: "Jedo" (Feeling 326 Gte) Montecot Jacques (124 pts) C V Angers
(Detail races: 22,51,51,)
45: "Carpus Diem" (One Barber) Kerjan Pierre (124 pts) Ste of Regates
Rochelaises (Detail races: 55,26,43,)
46: "Vital" (First 31.7) Herisse Bernard (125 pts) C V of Pornichet
(Detail races: 35,38,52,)
47: "enez It" (Dehler 29 Gte) Donard George (129 pts) Yacht Club
Crouesty Arzon (Detail races: 37,47,45,)
48: "Cyrano" (First 310 Gte) the Breton Roger (130 pts) S N Trinite
S/mer (Detail races: 17,60,53,)
49: "Pauv' coconut" (First 31.7) Schreder Gerald (130 pts) E V
Cataschool (Detail races: 43,45,42,)
50: "Clic Clac" (Sun Fast 32 Gte) Epstein Charles (137 pts) Yacht Club
Crouesty Arzon (Detail races: 47,52,38,)
51: "Quadra Solo" (First 31.7) Chaloupecky Pavel (137.5 pts) Ste of
Regates Rochelaises (Detail races: 54,48,35,)
52: "Pleasure Expert" (First 310 Pte) Boraud Yves (138 pts) Yacht Club
Crouesty Arzon (Detail races: 44,53,41,)
53: "But Brown" (Feeling 850 Club) Praud Gerald (141 pts) Club of the
Yachtmen of Island D Yeu (Detail races: 52,35,54,)
54: "Yannic II" (First 310 Gte) Rousseau Jean Marc (144 pts) Yacht Club
Crouesty Arzon (Detail races: 46,42,56,)
55: "Cassiopee" (Sun Fast 32 I) Genin Emmanuel (153 pts) Toulouse
Olympic Aerospatial Club (Detail races: 53,50,50,)
56: "Castle the Room" (First 31.7) Jacqueline Gerald (154 pts) Maritime
Center of Nantes (Detail races: 50,49,55,)
57: "Altair" (First 35s5 Q) Adam Michel (164 pts) A N Port the Drill
(Detail races: 49,56,59,)
58: "Moana" (First 310 Gte) Grooving plane Christophe (166 pts) C N of
the Valley of the Sarthe (Detail races: 51,57,58,)
59: "More Than This" (Dash 31 Gte Q Cast iron) Lubert Gerald (167 pts)
C N Baule Pouliguen Pornichet (Detail races: 56,54,57,)
60: "Ortegal Vii" (Sun Odyssey 33 Pte) Clergeau Leon Philippe (181 pts)
Yacht Club Crouesty Arzon (Detail races: 60,61,60,)
61: "With the Pleasure of the Old man" (First 31.7) Labourgade Elie
(186 pts) C N Marine of Lorient (Detail races: DNF, 58, DNF)


RB
35s5...more wins than ALL of the other boats here combined!
NY

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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At this point I've posted quite a few wins,


I'm afraid that I missed them.

I'd really love to read about one of your race victories. Please re-post a
link.


Thanks


Donal
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At this point I've posted quite a few wins,

I'm afraid that I missed them.

I'd really love to read about one of your race victories.


Do you need help with your system? It's easy to look back and see
earlier posts. The wins were from 35s5's in the USA and Europe as they
built more than one. In fact, the boat easily outsold your model by
more than 30%, mostly due to the poor interiors that followed the
Starck designed models.
Also...were you not aware that we just bought the boat and it's winter?
How could we have raced her before owning her?

I hope this all helps....but I doubt it! Merry Xmas, Donal. PS: Please
don't be a creep like Jeff by using kids for trolls. It's really not
on.

RB
35s5...the best boat here!
NY

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Swabbie? Posted wins? Now that is funny!

How many laps around the bath tub constitute a win?
And who records them?

"Donal" wrote

"Capt. Rob" wrote


At this point I've posted quite a few wins,


I'm afraid that I missed them.

I'd really love to read about one of your race victories. Please re-post
a
link.



 
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