Okay....we all give up!!!!

Steve and Sloco have been claiming for years that the Express 30
"custom interior" is really nice. But EVERY time I post pics from boats
up for sale, they squawk about older hulls and models with less
accomodation!
So...okay.....WHERE are these nice Express 30 interiors???? Let's face
facts, kids. You might find a clean Express 30 interior, but never a
nice one.

Here's a nice interior....

http://members.aol.com/bobsprit/images/int01.jpg

Then again the interior of my C&C 32 blew away the Express 30 in a big
way and the 32 was barely bigger!
Steve was smart to sell that dinosaur, but why is Sloco still in his
sailing coffin? Ever notice that Sloco has yet to post pics of his
boat???

Bwahahahahahaha!

RB
35s5....best boat and best cars!
NY

Honestly, bs, I think selling Pony was one of the
dumbest things I've ever done.
Maybe you can talk Loco to posting some pics of
his interior. If you want to see Pony's interior,
you'd have to go to upstate NY.
Of course, you could come to Baltimore and see the
one that is for sale here.
S.

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
: Okay....we all give up!!!!
:
: Steve and Sloco have been claiming for years
that the Express 30
: "custom interior" is really nice. But EVERY time
I post pics from boats
: up for sale, they squawk about older hulls and
models with less
: accomodation!
: So...okay.....WHERE are these nice Express 30
interiors???? Let's face
: facts, kids. You might find a clean Express 30
interior, but never a
: nice one.
:
: Here's a nice interior....
:
: http://members.aol.com/bobsprit/images/int01.jpg
:
: Then again the interior of my C&C 32 blew away
the Express 30 in a big
: way and the 32 was barely bigger!
: Steve was smart to sell that dinosaur, but why
is Sloco still in his
: sailing coffin? Ever notice that Sloco has yet
to post pics of his
: boat???
:
: Bwahahahahahaha!
:
: RB
: 35s5....best boat and best cars!
: NY
:

Honestly, bs, I think selling Pony was one of the
dumbest things I've ever done.


Why? There are plenty of other nicer newer and faster boats around. If
speed's your thing why not just pick up a C&C 34 XL? It blows the doors
off the Depress 30 and has a truly nice interior. It's also gone up in
value 40% in 5 years. You can't lose and Doug pointed out that there
was CB model was well. Don't need the nicer interior? Get a nice J29
and join a fleet with a good amount of boats. I'd suggest a First 36.7
but I think the new interiors are really cheap.
Unless you can't afford something nicer, there's no reason to sail such
an old dinosaur. It's not like it's a classic or anything remotely
close to a good looking boat.

Still, I'd like to see some pics of a nice interior on any Express 30.

RB
35s5
NY

It's not about size. It's not about value. It's
not about a fancy interior. It's about sailing.
Something you wouldn't understand. I'd suggest
that you find an Express 30 and sail it. You
won't find many boats like it. The Express 30
feels right. It's the kind of boat you could
single-hand blindfolded.
S.

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
: Honestly, bs, I think selling Pony was one of
the
: dumbest things I've ever done.
:
:
: Why? There are plenty of other nicer newer and
faster boats around. If
: speed's your thing why not just pick up a C&C 34
XL? It blows the doors
: off the Depress 30 and has a truly nice
interior. It's also gone up in
: value 40% in 5 years. You can't lose and Doug
pointed out that there
: was CB model was well. Don't need the nicer
interior? Get a nice J29
: and join a fleet with a good amount of boats.
I'd suggest a First 36.7
: but I think the new interiors are really cheap.
: Unless you can't afford something nicer, there's
no reason to sail such
: an old dinosaur. It's not like it's a classic or
anything remotely
: close to a good looking boat.
:
: Still, I'd like to see some pics of a nice
interior on any Express 30.
:
: RB
: 35s5
: NY
:

"NotPony" wrote in message
news:2zAlf.15170$5V1.4944@trnddc02...
Honestly, bs, I think selling Pony was one of the
dumbest things I've ever done.

So do I.

SV

t's not about size. It's not about value. It's
not about a fancy interior.


What an arrogant toad you remain, Steve. It IS about size if you need
room to sleep, have kids or just sail with more people. It is about a
fancy well fit interior if that's what YOU want. Value? That's a word
for losers. I'd rather have a fast fun boat than also sports a nice
interior. There's no "value" in an old dated interior.

I'd suggest
that you find an Express 30 and sail it. You
won't find many boats like it.

Another silly statement. I found very few boats like the Typhoon
either. The Bristol 27 is dinstinctive in sailing manners as well and
so is the J27. Lots and lots of boats sail great, Steve. Everyone who's
sailed the 35s5 seems to be in love with it AND I have a nice interior.
What advantage does the Express 30 have beyond a cheaper price? Has it
gone up in value as the 35s5 or C&C 34XL has? Will it be easier to
maintain? The Express 30, J29, Santana 30/30, J30 and boats like them
have one major thing going for them: LOW PRICE. If money is what counts
and you don't have enough, buy one of them. If you want something
nicer...there are plenty of choices both used an new. Value is relative
to needs and financial clout. If you have low end needs and no
clout....by all means buy another Depress 30.


RB
35s5...the best boat on ASA.
NY

Exactly my point. Maybe if you were nicer to
Loco, he'd let you sail on Ringmaster. Then you'd
understand. Apparently you are one of those who
hop on a boat the boat show and go right down
below, never noticing if it even has a rig. Think
about it. you confess that you are only going to
daysail and you're worried about sleeping
arrangements. Most people who sail only spend a
fraction of their time below.
Oh, bs, it's not arrogance, it's accuracy. Live
with it.
S.
"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
: t's not about size. It's not about value. It's
: not about a fancy interior.
:
:
: What an arrogant toad you remain, Steve. It IS
about size if you need
: room to sleep, have kids or just sail with more
people. It is about a
: fancy well fit interior if that's what YOU want.
Value? That's a word
: for losers. I'd rather have a fast fun boat than
also sports a nice
: interior. There's no "value" in an old dated
interior.
:
: I'd suggest
: that you find an Express 30 and sail it. You
: won't find many boats like it.
:
: Another silly statement. I found very few boats
like the Typhoon
: either. The Bristol 27 is dinstinctive in
sailing manners as well and
: so is the J27. Lots and lots of boats sail
great, Steve. Everyone who's
: sailed the 35s5 seems to be in love with it AND
I have a nice interior.
: What advantage does the Express 30 have beyond a
cheaper price? Has it
: gone up in value as the 35s5 or C&C 34XL has?
Will it be easier to
: maintain? The Express 30, J29, Santana 30/30,
J30 and boats like them
: have one major thing going for them: LOW PRICE.
If money is what counts
: and you don't have enough, buy one of them. If
you want something
: nicer...there are plenty of choices both used an
new. Value is relative
: to needs and financial clout. If you have low
end needs and no
: clout....by all means buy another Depress 30.
:
:
: RB
: 35s5...the best boat on ASA.
: NY
:

Most people who sail only spend a
fraction of their time below.

Yikes, what a dumb thing to post. Nonsense. That's your sad world. Most
people I know stay on their boats quite a bit and we plan to do the
same. Why have a crappy interior like the Express 30? What's the
reasoning behind that? If you sleep below twice a month it should be in
a sad shell like the Express? Do you also stay in the cheapest motel
you can find? You only spend a small fraction of your time sleeping
away from home, right? There's no excuse to be less comfortable for the
sake of "value" if you can do better.

Think
about it. you confess that you are only going to
daysail and you're worried about sleeping
arrangements.

Well, caught between a rock and a hard place, you resort to lying. I
have always spent weekends aboard my boats. We plan to expand that. I
guess you don't sleep on the weekends! This first Spring with Thomas
might not see as many overnighters, but this will gradually change.
So...you're wrong again, Steve. And you lied. I never said I ONLY
daysail. Only your buddy Sloco has said that here. Even so...if Sloco
wants to take a 20 minute nap after a daysail, he'll do it in a crappy
interior. Nuff said.

Apparently you are one of those who
hop on a boat the boat show and go right down
below, never noticing if it even has a rig.

Hey, numbnuts! At the AC boat show NONE of the big boats had rigs! Do
you mean I should have been looking at the ceiling?
Good work, Steve. I see you've come a long long way in you ability to
reason and debate!

RB
35s5
NY

Maybe if you were nicer to Loco, he'd let you sail on Ringmaster.


Don't need that. I enjoy kicking his ass.

35s5 bringing up the rear but in style.

: Honestly, bs, I think selling Pony was one of
the
: dumbest things I've ever done.
:

I thought it was nice of you to give somebody else a chance
to own & sail a first-rate boat... that's assuming that by
"sold" you mean that you got actual money for her...


"Capt. Rob" wrote
: Why? There are plenty of other nicer newer and
faster boats around. If
: speed's your thing why not just pick up a C&C 34
XL?

Maybe he doesn't like the way it looks? Maybe he didn't like
to pay double what Pony Express cost? Maybe he didn't feel
that he needed a BIGGER boat?

Why do always compare apples to oranges... maybe because you
don't know anything about boats or sailing?


: .... You can't lose and Doug
pointed out that there
: was CB model was well.

Yep. But hey, you're always saying I'm wrong, so there must
not be a CB model.


NotPony wrote:
It's not about size. It's not about value. It's
not about a fancy interior. It's about sailing.
Something you wouldn't understand. I'd suggest
that you find an Express 30 and sail it.

Like that'll ever happen.

... You
won't find many boats like it. The Express 30
feels right. It's the kind of boat you could
single-hand blindfolded.

I can do that with the trawler too. I especially enjoy the
crunchy sounds from up by the bow.

DSK