I have developed a device for practicing day or night time crew overboard
recovery drills. Details may be found at www.cobtarget.com

Kudos to you Matt. Great idea for a product. A little
bit pricey for what it is though.

"Matthew Carmel" wrote
I have developed a device for practicing day or night time crew overboard
recovery drills. Details may be found at www.cobtarget.com

Stupid Idea.

It has a flag (Crew members don't have flags on their heads)
A crews head is much lower in the water and much much harder to see. ( so
should the target )
Crew members don't have handles on the top of their heads (neither should
the target.)

Why do MOB training if its done with training wheels on? All this object
appears to do is "over-assist" the skipper and crew in locating and
retrieving the MOB. It does not represent anything near a live situation.
Better to go back to the trusty old lifejacket for a more realistic,
low-to-water object.

If the crew members head is not disappearing behind wavelets it is not a
real situation. This Object removes that real life hindrance.

Retrieval of the crew member in the simulated simulation should be as
difficult as in real life. The handle again takes away another real life
situation.

Over priced and over rated in my opinion
The only use I see for it is as a poor mans DanBouy.

DP


"Matthew Carmel" wrote in message
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I have developed a device for practicing day or night time crew overboard
recovery drills. Details may be found at www.cobtarget.com

"d parker" wrote in

Stupid Idea.

Very Good idea!

It has a flag (Crew members don't have flags on their heads)
A crews head is much lower in the water and much much harder to see. ( so
should the target )
Crew members don't have handles on the top of their heads (neither should
the target.)

For drills, especially from a large boat, this is a good
practice aid. An important part of training is to make
it fun. It should not involve uncomfortable diving
between the lifelines, with blood rusing to the head invertions.
If it isn't fun, people will give up on practicing before mastering
it.

Why do MOB training if its done with training wheels on? All this object
appears to do is "over-assist" the skipper and crew in locating and
retrieving the MOB. It does not represent anything near a live situation.
Better to go back to the trusty old lifejacket for a more realistic,
low-to-water object.

Getting the maneuvers down, in all conditions is the most important
part. Once you have a tired person made off to the boat, they
won't drown--the last phase may require more exertion, but it is
trivial compared to getting a hold of the MOB.

If the crew members head is not disappearing behind wavelets it is not a
real situation. This Object removes that real life hindrance.

Retrieval of the crew member in the simulated simulation should be as
difficult as in real life. The handle again takes away another real life
situation.

Agreed, but that sort of training can come later, afer the basic
manuevers are mastered.

Over priced and over rated in my opinion
The only use I see for it is as a poor mans DanBouy.

I agree on the price.

We just use hats....we've drowned several unintentionally and saved more
through good MOB procedure....great part is that you don't plan to have a
MOB drill...wind comes up, hat comes off, have to save the hat....better
that way...after all, what sane person jumps in to drown on purpose?

"Matthew Carmel" wrote in message
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I have developed a device for practicing day or night time crew overboard
recovery drills. Details may be found at www.cobtarget.com

Crew members don't have handles on the top of their heads

I've been sailing with some people who've had awfully big ears...

Thats a pretty good target, but 1 or 2 direct hits with anything bigger
than a .22 and it will sink. Milk jugs work pretty good to.

Joe

You actually stop to pick up crew that has fallen overboard????

Good Grief what a waste of time that is.

CM

"Matthew Carmel" wrote in message
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I have developed a device for practicing day or night time crew overboard
recovery drills. Details may be found at www.cobtarget.com

In article ,
d parker wrote:
Stupid Idea.

It has a flag (Crew members don't have flags on their heads)
A crews head is much lower in the water and much much harder to see. ( so
should the target )
Crew members don't have handles on the top of their heads (neither should
the target.)

Why do MOB training if its done with training wheels on? All this object
appears to do is "over-assist" the skipper and crew in locating and
retrieving the MOB. It does not represent anything near a live situation.
Better to go back to the trusty old lifejacket for a more realistic,
low-to-water object.

If the crew members head is not disappearing behind wavelets it is not a
real situation. This Object removes that real life hindrance.

We use a fender inside a PFD. It's actually harder to retrieve than a
person, since it's harder to see, and it tends to move away from the
boat if you have any speed on.

We've been doing some night time practice using the same thing, but in
this case I add one of those green glow sticks. I don't want to risk
losing the combo.

We're also thinking about using a weighted dummy (no one you know) to
simulate actually bringing a person on board. We'll probably do this
part at anchor on on a mooring (or even at the dock).



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