Capt.Mooron wrote:
Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
I would think a bulb-like or fin keel would be more appropriate for
what you're looking for. The Cal, for example, has a fairly modern
keel design, given how long ago it was designed.

http://www.sealsspars.com/classy20footer.html



The Cal 20 is a ridiculous choice. It's all cockpit and no cabin. It
performs poorly in heavy air and it is no easier to step the mast than on a
Nordica 16 or Nordica 20.

The Nordica 20 is one of the few boats that has an inboard diesel, can be
ramp launched and will sleep 4 in comfort with a built in head , galley and
has only a 2.5ft draft. It will out perform a Cal 20 anyday as I have proven
on many occasions. You can actually walk around the deck of a Nordica 20 and
it has life lines all around. The 2 cylinder diesel can be hand cranked,
there is actual plumbing with a sink and stove inside. The bunks are 8 feet.
The storage is excellent.

Fairly modern keel design... what a laugh! The Cal 20 is a low end pig in a
poke.

CM


There is a huge racing fleet of Cal 20s up here in the PNW. The class
racing is very competitive. Lots of them cruise in the summer. Not
many are trailer sailed though. Cheap, honest fun.

In article XvSgf.579668$tl2.187708@pd7tw3no,
Gary wrote:
There is a huge racing fleet of Cal 20s up here in the PNW. The class
racing is very competitive. Lots of them cruise in the summer. Not
many are trailer sailed though. Cheap, honest fun.

Where in the PNW? Near Thom?

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Jonathan Ganz wrote:
In article XvSgf.579668$tl2.187708@pd7tw3no,
Gary wrote:

There is a huge racing fleet of Cal 20s up here in the PNW. The class
racing is very competitive. Lots of them cruise in the summer. Not
many are trailer sailed though. Cheap, honest fun.


Where in the PNW? Near Thom?

Victoria, where is Thom?

"Gary" wrote in message

Victoria, where is Thom?

Victoria??!! Isn't that a retirement community? :-)

I was out on Bowen Island visiting a friend who just bought a nice place
there this summer. I spent time at Nanaimo and Salt Spring as well... years
ago. I sailed the roaring Malaspina as well as the Charlottes. I stayed on
Texada and saw Dick Island.... they say when the fog rolls in thick... you
can't see Dick! ::-)

CM

Capt.Mooron wrote:
"Gary" wrote in message


Victoria, where is Thom?


Victoria??!! Isn't that a retirement community? :-)

I was out on Bowen Island visiting a friend who just bought a nice place
there this summer. I spent time at Nanaimo and Salt Spring as well... years
ago. I sailed the roaring Malaspina as well as the Charlottes. I stayed on
Texada and saw Dick Island.... they say when the fog rolls in thick... you
can't see Dick! ::-)

CM


Yeah, sailing up here sucks. What route did you use to get to the
Charlottes?

"Gary" wrote in message

Yeah, sailing up here sucks. What route did you use to get to the
Charlottes?

Got on a trip years ago with a buddy I met up with in Prince Rupert. It was
on a Gozzard 36. Really nice boat!
I think we had 1 day out of 10 that it didn't rain! :-)

The west coast is an eye candy wonderland.... I love it there but I agree
about the light winds inside.

CM

Capt.Mooron wrote:
"Gary" wrote in message


Yeah, sailing up here sucks. What route did you use to get to the
Charlottes?


Got on a trip years ago with a buddy I met up with in Prince Rupert. It was
on a Gozzard 36. Really nice boat!
I think we had 1 day out of 10 that it didn't rain! :-)

The west coast is an eye candy wonderland.... I love it there but I agree
about the light winds inside.

CM


I spent last summer cruising in the Charlottes and will be sailing back
up there this coming summer for a couple months. I was being facetious
when I said the sailing sucks. I love it. The winds can be flukey in
the summer on the inside, but they are howling northwesters on the
outside. It is a great run down from Alaska or the Charlottes to Juan
de Fuca about 100 miles offshore. 3 or 4 days of spinnaker.

The thing I like most is the abundance of stuff you can eat out of the
water and off the land. It is very heart warming to know that there are
places you can still survive easily.

Gaz

South of you... I can't remember. Victoria is on my list of places to go.
From what I've heard, it's an amazing place.

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"Gary" wrote in message
news:CW%gf.578698$oW2.208001@pd7tw1no...
Jonathan Ganz wrote:
In article XvSgf.579668$tl2.187708@pd7tw3no,
Gary wrote:

There is a huge racing fleet of Cal 20s up here in the PNW. The class
racing is very competitive. Lots of them cruise in the summer. Not many
are trailer sailed though. Cheap, honest fun.


Where in the PNW? Near Thom?

Victoria, where is Thom?

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
South of you... I can't remember. Victoria is on my list of places to go.
From what I've heard, it's an amazing place.

Bwahahahahahahahahahaaaaa.....

CM

Stop stalking me Mooron. We all know you're angry, but you're getting
obsessive.

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"Capt.Mooron" wrote in message
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
South of you... I can't remember. Victoria is on my list of places to go.
From what I've heard, it's an amazing place.

Bwahahahahahahahahahaaaaa.....

CM