As many folks here with little real world sailing experience keep
getting things wrong, here's another fact for you...
Sailing offshore or in less protected waters is the safest lowest risk
sailing you can do. Period. Almost all boating accidents happen in
crowded areas and the worst of them are within easy swimming distance
of land. If even a short squall hits, you're also at a far higher risk
when close to land.
Sailing deeper into the sound there are far fewer bad pilots to contend
with and more room to navigate than putzing about on a daysail near our
home. Continue to sail in your own crowded waters and the chance of
some nut smashing into you or a squall playing pinball with you only
increases.
After learning this, we generally sailed out beyond Execution Rock,
both for the better air and room to day or night sail with lower risks.
The very idea that Jeff, Doug and others continue to talk about sailing
distances as a measure of bravado, shows how unaware and unsafe they
really are. Sailing offshore is ULTRA safe by comparison. Offshore
sailing has just one problematic requirement that keeps most from
enjoying it.....time.


Capt Robert B
35s5....a near coastal sailboat faster than yours!
NY

Begs the question... if you are going to sail 'offshore"..... why would you
need a light air boat?

CM

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
ps.com...
As many folks here with little real world sailing experience keep
getting things wrong, here's another fact for you...
Sailing offshore or in less protected waters is the safest lowest risk
sailing you can do. Period. Almost all boating accidents happen in
crowded areas and the worst of them are within easy swimming distance
of land. If even a short squall hits, you're also at a far higher risk
when close to land.
Sailing deeper into the sound there are far fewer bad pilots to contend
with and more room to navigate than putzing about on a daysail near our
home. Continue to sail in your own crowded waters and the chance of
some nut smashing into you or a squall playing pinball with you only
increases.
After learning this, we generally sailed out beyond Execution Rock,
both for the better air and room to day or night sail with lower risks.
The very idea that Jeff, Doug and others continue to talk about sailing
distances as a measure of bravado, shows how unaware and unsafe they
really are. Sailing offshore is ULTRA safe by comparison. Offshore
sailing has just one problematic requirement that keeps most from
enjoying it.....time.


Capt Robert B
35s5....a near coastal sailboat faster than yours!
NY

Begs the question... if you are going to sail 'offshore"..... why would
you
need a light air boat?

I'm not sailing offshore. We bought the 35s5 because we will be sailing
mostly on the LIS for short sails with a 2 year old. Light air is what
we have 80% of the time.
You choose a design for the prevailing conditions, Mooron. Still no
excuse for your slow boat as there were better choices. But we made an
ideal pick.

RB
35s5...a boat that is great for light air!
NY

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message

I'm not sailing offshore. We bought the 35s5 because we will be sailing
mostly on the LIS for short sails with a 2 year old. Light air is what
we have 80% of the time.

Exactly.... you bought a fast boat to sail in a protected harbour which sees
less rough conditions than most lakes.

You choose a design for the prevailing conditions, Mooron. Still no
excuse for your slow boat as there were better choices. But we made an
ideal pick.

I chose a design that met my requirements Bob.... racing and high speed,
turning on a dime, sitting at dock and backing up weren't a primary
consideration. My boat is very fast for a cruiser design. It sails well on
all points and favours downwind.... which is what it was designed to do.

Now when it comes to heavy air..... you'll be on your third reef [ you do
have 3 reefing points right?] before I consider changing the headsail.

Now bob... just a question.... on your C&C 35s5... do you reef the main
prior to the headsail or reef the headsail prior to the main. On full
keelers you always reef the main prior to reducing headsail


RB
35s5...a boat that is great for light air!
NY

CM
Nordica 30... a boat that looks good under sail.

My boat is very fast for a cruiser design.


No, it isn't. It's not even lower middle of the pack.


RB
35s5...a truly fast cruiser.
NY

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
My boat is very fast for a cruiser design.


No, it isn't. It's not even lower middle of the pack.

Oh yes it is...... check sailcalc... I'd tell you to ask some of the
owners of the vessels I sail with ... but you never leave the harbour!! :-)

CM

Now bob... just a question.... on your C&C 35s5... do you reef the main

prior to the headsail or reef the headsail prior to the main. On full
keelers you always reef the main prior to reducing headsail


Mooron, you do know that the 35s5 is a fractional rig, right? You do
know that I can sail FAST with just the main and still outpoint you,
right? You do know that a typical 110% is all you need when you have
this kind of light air ability, right? Since the main is much of the
drive (assuming I don't have the 150% mylar up) I'd reef the main. Of
course reefing the jib is fast via smooth RF. I'll simply reef before
you and still pass you on any point of sail...and have more fun to
boot!

Robert B
35s5...a boat that outsails a Nordic 30 in ALL conditions.

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message ups.com...
| Begs the question... if you are going to sail 'offshore"..... why would
| you
| need a light air boat?
|
| I'm not sailing offshore. We bought the 35s5 because we will be sailing
| mostly on the LIS for short sails with a 2-year-old. Light air is what
| we have 80% of the time.



But, how old is your son?

CN

Since when is the smell of sewage regarded as "light air"?

Gilligan

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
ups.com...
| Begs the question... if you are going to sail 'offshore"..... why would
| you
| need a light air boat?
|
| I'm not sailing offshore. We bought the 35s5 because we will be sailing
| mostly on the LIS for short sails with a 2-year-old. Light air is what
| we have 80% of the time.



But, how old is your son?

CN

It's got to do with the tofu and alfalfa sprouts those New Yorkers
are so fond of . . .

CN


"Gilligan" wrote in message k.net...
| Since when is the smell of sewage regarded as "light air"?
|
| Gilligan
|
| "Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
| ...
|
| "Capt. Rob" wrote in message
| ups.com...
| | Begs the question... if you are going to sail 'offshore"..... why would
| | you
| | need a light air boat?
| |
| | I'm not sailing offshore. We bought the 35s5 because we will be sailing
| | mostly on the LIS for short sails with a 2-year-old. Light air is what
| | we have 80% of the time.
|
|
|
| But, how old is your son?
|
| CN
|
|