"Joe" wrote in message ps.com...
Just where did you find these retards?

Joe


I didn't find them.

Gaynz and KKKatysails were here all along.

CN

Look Im all for freedom of speech, and I hate snitches as much as you
do.

However the pack of retards that have show up lately have to be the
biggest pack of losers on earth. They offer nothing of value, and it
seems many that use to bring value here have left. If your goal is to
pile **** on **** than you have indeed accomplished your task.

I expected Capt. Neal to stand above the ****balls and lead by example,
Oh well.


Joe

"Joe" wrote in message oups.com...
Look Im all for freedom of speech, and I hate snitches as much as you
do.

However the pack of retards that have show up lately have to be the
biggest pack of losers on earth. They offer nothing of value, and it
seems many that use to bring value here have left. If your goal is to
pile **** on **** than you have indeed accomplished your task.

I expected Capt. Neal to stand above the ****balls and lead by example,
Oh well.


Joe


It's beyond my control. I did not bring them here. KKKatysails and Gaynz
brought them here with their netKKKopping. Even if I were to beg them
to go away, they would just laugh at me and I would understand why.

All they want is to have two admitted netKKKops apologize for their
activities and cease and desist. If that happened to eventuate, they
would gladly go away and leave the group alone.

They believe very strongly in freedom of speech as do I. That there are
way too many thick-skulled people here siding with netKKKops is not
doing anything but making matters worse. Note they are not attempting
to make Ganz and KKKatysails stop posting. Rather, they are attempting
to make them see the light. They will never respect KKKaty or Ganz
but they will abide them and afford them the same freedom they
expect to be afforded themselves once they stop being hypocrits.

These people you don't like for disrupting the group, I like very much.
They've even provided me a safe haven from unwarranted netcop attacks.

It's a simple matter. If Jonathan was any kind of a man and Katy any kind
of a woman, they would both apologize and repent of their netKKKopping.

Will they? I don't think so because I think they lack the guts to admit
they are wrong.

What does it tell you about the regard they hold this group in since they
refuse to do this simple and correct thing? You are calling the wrong
people retards.

Had I been in their position, I would have apoligized for my chicken****
actions a couple of weeks ago.


CN

"Capt. Neal®" wrote i

It's beyond my control. I did not bring them here.


YEs you did LIAR!

..


S

"Scotty" wrote in message ...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote i

It's beyond my control. I did not bring them here.


YEs you did LIAR!


Prove it, ASSHOLE!

CN

neal writ; They believe very strongly in freedom of speech as do I.

FREEDOM! freedom has a price. freedom of speech is not
unconditional.

Someone must draw a line somewhere. Do you not agree?

We can't have jerks yelling ''FIRE'' in a theatre. Agreed?

You wouldn't want an older man talking dirty to a pre-teen girl.
Right?

No one wants their neighbor yelling out shakespere at 0200. Well?

So, do we agree that there must be a line somewhere? And if that line
is crossed, there must be consiquences(?) to pay.

Damn, Google has no spell check.

Scotty

"Scotty" wrote in message oups.com...
neal writ; They believe very strongly in freedom of speech as do I.

FREEDOM! freedom has a price. freedom of speech is not
unconditional.

Freedom of speech is unconditional. Here's a refresher course.

Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,
or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom
of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to
assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.


Someone must draw a line somewhere. Do you not agree?


I disagree. I don't even buy the yelling fire in a crowded theatre
idiocy. I certainly don't buy the so-called hate speech argument.
Speech is speech. Nowhere in the First Ammendment does it say
congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech, except
for hate speech, or yelling fire in a crowded theatre or. . . .

We can't have jerks yelling ''FIRE'' in a theatre. Agreed?

Yes we can. That's free speech according to the Constitution.


You wouldn't want an older man talking dirty to a pre-teen girl.
Right?

Happens all the time. It's free speech. It's not my business to
police speech.


No one wants their neighbor yelling out shakespere at 0200. Well?

He is free to yell anything he wants. That he will eventually get
his jaw broken is the result of his ****ing people off but he still
has the right to yell Shakespeare at 0200 hours.


So, do we agree that there must be a line somewhere? And if that line
is crossed, there must be consiquences(?) to pay.

There is no line respecting free speech. Read the First Amendment
again and again until that fact sinks in.

CN

Freedom of speech is unconditional. Here's a refresher course.

Got ya...Now the retards can babble at will, and damn sure do not let
the ****faces post anything on topic.

Soque (Enjoque) Pupette writed;


Someone must draw a line somewhere. Do you not agree?



Who will draw the line? Where will it be drawn?

You and I might not agree on the answer to those questions.

Well yeah, that was to be my next point. But neal went off on an
incoherant rant.
My line might be further out than your line. Gaynzys line would
definitley be short.
Also, the consequences for crossing the line will be different. You
might flame, or 'flonk' a line crosser, I would KF them, Gaynzy will
tell his Mommy (report abuse to ISP).

Whose to say what's right?



We can't have jerks yelling ''FIRE'' in a theatre. Agreed?





Yelling "FIRE!" in a newsgroup doesn't cause a panic and
rush to the exits where people get trampled and die.


Agreed. but constant swearing, vulgar abusive language, in an
established group of ''friendly sailors'' is disrubtive, to say the
least.




You wouldn't want an older man talking dirty to a pre-teen girl.
Right?



A parent that allows a preteen girl to wander in an adult
environment is not fulfilling their duties as a parent.

You think letting one's daughter go to school is neglectful?






No one wants their neighbor yelling out shakespere at 0200. Well?



This is usenet. How is your sleep disturbed by me POSTING IN ALL
CAPS? (yelling)

It's knot.




""Note that I'm not forcing you to read my posts. You chose to do so
of your own free will. You take deliberate and affirmative action
to select my post and read it. If my posts bother you, you can
filter/skip-over/ignore them and they won't cause you any
distress. The point is: it's *your* choice. Your freedom is not
only in what you can say, but also in what you can read. ""


"A netkkkop removes that choice from you. They make the decision
of what you're allowed to read buy removing from your view the
posters they don't like. That infringes on your freedom, as
well as mine and others. "

Right.




So, do we agree that there must be a line somewhere? And if that
line
is crossed, there must be consiquences(?) to pay.



I will agree to this: With freedom comes responsibility.

I exercise my responsibility by staying withing the bounds of
my provider's AUP/TOS and the law; however, I refuse to be
constrained by some nutcase on a power trip.


Good for you, but I assume some ISPs have different TOS (lines to
cross).

Scotty

Wait a sec... Neal already does this stuff, except the Shakespeare of
course.

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Scotty" wrote in message
oups.com...
neal writ; They believe very strongly in freedom of speech as do I.

FREEDOM! freedom has a price. freedom of speech is not
unconditional.

Someone must draw a line somewhere. Do you not agree?

We can't have jerks yelling ''FIRE'' in a theatre. Agreed?

You wouldn't want an older man talking dirty to a pre-teen girl.
Right?

No one wants their neighbor yelling out shakespere at 0200. Well?

So, do we agree that there must be a line somewhere? And if that line
is crossed, there must be consiquences(?) to pay.

Damn, Google has no spell check.

Scotty