Crap'n Neal® wrote:
Please allow me to express my opinion of the fanatic care and feeding of
trim wood on sailboats.

1) Those who spend time, effort and dollars on so-called 'brightwork'
are more
interested in showing than going.

That may sometimes be the case. However it is also true that first, they
have the good taste to own a good-looking boat.

... DSK is a good example of this
stupidity with
his bragging about all the time his wife spends on the varnishing.
Please note
that this maintenance time is down-time.

Actually, one can varnish perfectly well underway, or anchored in a nice
cove.


3) Teak trim on a sailboat is just that - trim. It is unnecessary

Handrails and hatch slides are unnecessary?


5) I have tossed the constantly-rotting, teak,

Actually teak is *very* resistant to rot. In fact under normal
conditions and given even half-competent care, it will never rot.

If yours were rotting then where does that leave you?


.. I will replace the
teak-faced, plywood, companionway washboards with the same white
plastic (Star Board) as soon as they rot out more and become unserviceable.

You can buy the same plastic stuff at Home Depot for less than half the
cost.


I will never spend one more dollar or one more minute of my sailing
time varnishing exterior
wood.

Since you don't ever spend any time sailing, that's easy for you to say.

DSK

Well now; Woodwork,

That is an APT word for it Wood Work! Plenty of work!

This old man has been the whole route, more than once or twice. I
haven't YET decided what is best. The best looking I think is the well
sanded teak. Sanded in stages down in grit size until the teak has the
look of polish and then the multi layers of Varnish. When just done
beautiful when aged; Ugly.

I've just now, at the present time, just returned to teak oil, without
any hardener. Pure teak oil. A lot of care. Frequent care but the
easiest of all care. Can be done under way while on auto pilot. Can be
done half ass or not. Can start and stop without a problem. BUT!!! It
has to be done often and has to be done.

The interior of my boat is teak, as the pictures show. I use the apply
and rub down and finish with a hand rub. I'm to old for that **** now.

I do the floor with oil applied with a long handle brush. When the floor
stops taking oil I use the same brush on bulkheads, lockers and shelves.
I hand finish with a paper towel soaked with oil.

Do the same with paper towel on hand holds, Hatch slides and main hatch
doors.

I do kind of agree, right now with Neal. The boat is for sailing
pleasure but good looking trim does increase that pleasure.
It is different when moored in a marina than when you're hanging on a
hook. Comparisons are made

Ole Thom




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"DSK" wrote in message

Actually, one can varnish perfectly well underway, or anchored in a nice
cove.

The Pardeys were proof-positive of this. They did brightwork and woodwork
jobs as a means of acquiring funds underway, and considered their boat a
sales tool. So they kept Serrafin and Taleisin in bristol condition
constantly, which often meant doing maintenance underway or in quiet
anchorages. AFAIK they still do.

Max

"Maxprop" opined:


The Pardeys were proof-positive of this. They did brightwork and woodwork
jobs as a means of acquiring funds underway, and considered their boat a
sales tool. So they kept Serrafin and Taleisin in bristol condition
constantly, which often meant doing maintenance underway or in quiet
anchorages. AFAIK they still do.


If your idea of cruising is doing brightwork in quiet anchorages then you are
as lame as the Pardeys. I sure do enjoy hearing power tools and generators
and smelling varinis fumes so some putz can do useless cosmetic work on his
boat. Yes siree, that's what quiet anchorages are all about. Uhuh!

I would much rather do some snorkeling, fishing, beach combing, exploring
and sailing or even just sitting in my cockpit sipping a cold beer while breathing
the fresh air, enjoying the peace and quiet and noting I have the time to do
it because I'm not a slave to brightwork. . . But, then again, I am not an
'all show but no go' type like you. I value the basics in life. I'm a man and
a sailor. You and the over-the-hill Pardeys are show-boaters who have their
priorities wrong.

CN - a go-boater, not some lame show-boater.

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message

"Maxprop" opined:


The Pardeys were proof-positive of this. They did brightwork and
woodwork jobs as a means of acquiring funds underway, and considered
their boat a sales tool. So they kept Serrafin and Taleisin in bristol
condition constantly, which often meant doing maintenance underway or in
quiet anchorages. AFAIK they still do.


If your idea of cruising is doing brightwork in quiet anchorages then you
are
as lame as the Pardeys. I sure do enjoy hearing power tools and
generators
and smelling varinis fumes so some putz can do useless cosmetic work on
his boat. Yes siree, that's what quiet anchorages are all about. Uhuh!

I would much rather do some snorkeling, fishing, beach combing, exploring
and sailing or even just sitting in my cockpit sipping a cold beer while
breathing
the fresh air, enjoying the peace and quiet and noting I have the time to
do it because I'm not a slave to brightwork. . . But, then again, I am
not an 'all show but no go' type like you. I value the basics in life. I'm
a man and a sailor. You and the over-the-hill Pardeys are show-boaters who
have their
priorities wrong.
CN - a go-boater, not some lame show-boater.

In other words, you are a lazy slob with no pride in his boat. Okay, I can
appreciate that, considering the "boat" you own.

Max