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Capt. Neal® March 6th 05 05:56 PM

Armored glass fitted to rotting and rusting steel frames is overkill.

You should rename your vessel from Red Cloud to "Overkill".
You and Mooron could then sail in (slow) company as
"Overproof" and "Overkill". Has a nice ring to it. rotflmbfpao

CN


"Joe" wrote in message oups.com...
Thats what I figure 10 year tops without some serious polishing.

My windows have become dull IMO, and show internal crazing. You can
still beat the **** out of them and they will not fail, yet the view
IMO is less than desirable. If you have flat windows then use armored
glass. All mine are curved. However if I can get all new glass made for
3X the price of lexan then that is the way I will go. Like I said, I
will try to polish mine this summer, If it does not work then I'm
willing to shell out 5-8K to have custom Armored glass made for
RedCloud.

Joe


Capt. Neal® March 6th 05 05:57 PM


You're wrong about the Lexan melting behind the jig-saw blade.
It does not unless you have the wrong blade or are going too slow.

CN

"Joe" wrote in message oups.com...
Lexan is not that hard to work with. The worst part is when you cut it
with a jig saw the lexan heats up and cools behind the blade and you
may have to make several passes to get it cut. Do NOT USE PLAIN
ACRYLIC.
unless you plan to sail on a lake close to shore where you can be
rescued easily when your windows cave in . Also regular Acrylic will
not take the pressure of cooling and heating, it will BUST . HEED MY
WORD JR!

Joe


JR Gilbreath March 6th 05 06:18 PM

You can't go wrong if you do just the opposite of what the Capt
suggests. So I will not use Lexan in the lens. The Capt doesn't read
well enough to realize that the manufacturers and dealers call them lens.
JR


Capt. Neal® wrote:


Forget about glass. Go with Lexan. Half inch thick Lexan is better and
stronger
than glass. It's available in a variety of tints, colors and
thicknesses. It is also easier to cut. You can use a jigsaw.

I hope this helps. BTW, using the word 'lens' for a flat piece of glass
or plastic sounds stupid. Call it a replacement 'glass'. I hope this helps.

CN



"JR Gilbreath" wrote in message
...

Has anyone replaced a hatch lens lately or know a good place to have
one duplicated?


John Cairns March 6th 05 06:26 PM


"JR Gilbreath" wrote in message
...
You can't go wrong if you do just the opposite of what the Capt suggests.
So I will not use Lexan in the lens. The Capt doesn't read well enough to
realize that the manufacturers and dealers call them lens.
JR


Well, you know Nil is never wrong, just assume it to be true as you would
the sun rising in the morning. You should feel honored that Nil has chosen
to answer your extremely trivial post. He is a master mariner, and has spent
more time swinging off his mooring than you have sailing. Look forward to
being putzed if you contine with your impertinence!!

John Cairns




Capt. Neal® wrote:


Forget about glass. Go with Lexan. Half inch thick Lexan is better and
stronger
than glass. It's available in a variety of tints, colors and thicknesses.
It is also easier to cut. You can use a jigsaw.

I hope this helps. BTW, using the word 'lens' for a flat piece of glass
or plastic sounds stupid. Call it a replacement 'glass'. I hope this
helps.

CN



"JR Gilbreath" wrote in message
...

Has anyone replaced a hatch lens lately or know a good place to have one
duplicated?




Joe March 6th 05 06:27 PM

the manufacturers and dealers call them lens.


They do that so they can charge suckers more.

It is not a lens. A lens is a transparent optical device used to
converge or diverge transmitted light and to form images.

Hope this helps

Joe


Capt. Neal® March 6th 05 06:32 PM

JR is just another example of the type of person who asks a question
but has a totally closed mind and will not listen to any advice proffered.
He runs his mouth in order to feel wanted but never digs decades of old
wax out of his ears.

Nay, his type will even argue about the advice that is proffered by
well-meaning individuals who possess far more experience and know-how
than JR will ever even dream of having.

Some advice for you - stop siding with losers like JR!

CN

"John Cairns" wrote

Well, you know Nil is never wrong, just assume it to be true as you would
the sun rising in the morning. You should feel honored that Nil has chosen
to answer your extremely trivial post. He is a master mariner, and has spent
more time swinging off his mooring than you have sailing. Look forward to
being putzed if you contine with your impertinence!!

John Cairns



Capt. Neal® March 6th 05 06:36 PM



Right you are yet again, Joe. Thanks for backing me up
with your usual common sense and knowledge of boating
related issues.

I tried to tell that ignorant putz, JR, the same thing but he
is too smug and self-absorbed to listen to the facts.

CN

"Joe" wrote in message oups.com...
the manufacturers and dealers call them lens.



They do that so they can charge suckers more.

It is not a lens. A lens is a transparent optical device used to
converge or diverge transmitted light and to form images.

Hope this helps

Joe


JR Gilbreath March 6th 05 06:36 PM

But as usual Capt, you are wrong. I am listening, just not to you.
Joe gave me a hell of a lot of good info last night.
JR

Capt. Neal® wrote:

JR is just another example of the type of person who asks a question
but has a totally closed mind and will not listen to any advice proffered.
He runs his mouth in order to feel wanted but never digs decades of old
wax out of his ears.

Nay, his type will even argue about the advice that is proffered by
well-meaning individuals who possess far more experience and know-how
than JR will ever even dream of having.

Some advice for you - stop siding with losers like JR!

CN

"John Cairns" wrote


Well, you know Nil is never wrong, just assume it to be true as you
would the sun rising in the morning. You should feel honored that Nil
has chosen to answer your extremely trivial post. He is a master
mariner, and has spent more time swinging off his mooring than you
have sailing. Look forward to being putzed if you contine with your
impertinence!!

John Cairns




Capt. Mooron March 6th 05 07:06 PM

Wrong you both are... deep submersibles use a 10" "lens" as a view port

Sunglasses have lenses and yet do not alter the vision.

The pair of you should try learning as an option to spouting.

CM

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...


Right you are yet again, Joe. Thanks for backing me up
with your usual common sense and knowledge of boating
related issues.

I tried to tell that ignorant putz, JR, the same thing but he
is too smug and self-absorbed to listen to the facts.

CN

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
the manufacturers and dealers call them lens.



They do that so they can charge suckers more.

It is not a lens. A lens is a transparent optical device used to
converge or diverge transmitted light and to form images.

Hope this helps

Joe




Joe March 6th 05 07:16 PM

Wrong again Mooron. Subs have viewing ports not lenses unless the are
concave or convex and reshape light transmitted thru them. .

Only reason sunglasses have Lenses is because they are a rip off of the
proper name of perscription lenses used in standard eye glasses that
predate sunglasses. The proper terms is sunglasses or filters, not
sunlenses.

You should try learning before spouting off.

Joe



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