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JG March 6th 05 07:34 AM

Joey knows all about getting his panties in a wad.

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"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
JFC JR

Dont get your panties in a wad.

Bizwinger glass is one of the best in the country when it comes to
custom fit bullit proff glass. They did all my wheelhouse glass. I
assumed your a brit with your crazy Lens refference. WTF you need a
tele number or what? Whipe the snot out of your nose and I will be
happy to provide you a tele number. They are good guys and know what
they are doing, they did all my wheelhouse glass at a reasonable price.

Joe




Jeff Morris March 6th 05 12:25 PM

Have you considered getting the lens or upper frame from Lewmar? If
you can find a friendly Lewmar dealer (many riggers can special order)
you might get a reasonable price. I've given up trying to second
guess spares prices - sometimes key parts are dirt cheap, other times
they're more then the full item.

Here's a typical parts catalog:
http://www.kiwiyachting.co.nz/produc...ol_1_Iss_2.pdf



JR Gilbreath wrote:
They are Lewmar 60's the "glass" (the instructions called them lens) is
about 22x22.
JR


Joe wrote:

Well lens implies an item that provide a focus. I work with optical
engineers all the time and when you imply Lens for a window I assumed
you were a ******.

Dont listen to Mooron. I spent over 2000 bucks on Lexan for my side
windows and after 8 years they are not living up to my expecations of
clarity. If you have a small "lens" then go with Armored glass not
Lexan. Lexan may be as tough but in the long run Glass is superior. How
large is your "lens"?

Joe


katysails March 6th 05 01:22 PM

Ours are too, but the glass is rose-colored and when we priced it out we
decided crazed was just fine with us...

"JR Gilbreath" wrote in message
...
Thanks Joe. You are truly on a par with Capt Kneel when it
comes to boating knowledge and using insults to try to make yourself
appear smarter than you are. I don't blame either one of you for that you
both do need all the help you can get.
The "lens" in my hatches are crazed (do you need me to explain that to
you?) and I am replacing them.
JR


Joe wrote:
What did you break?

Need some bullit proof glass call biswinger in Galveston.

a lens is for telescopes not hatches numbnuts.

Joe




katysails March 6th 05 01:26 PM

Glass is a heck of a lot heavier than Lexan...which makes a difference for
anyone that has a performance boat...I'd stick with Lexan...

"JR Gilbreath" wrote in message
...
They are Lewmar 60's the "glass" (the instructions called them lens) is
about 22x22.
JR


Joe wrote:

Well lens implies an item that provide a focus. I work with optical
engineers all the time and when you imply Lens for a window I assumed
you were a ******.

Dont listen to Mooron. I spent over 2000 bucks on Lexan for my side
windows and after 8 years they are not living up to my expecations of
clarity. If you have a small "lens" then go with Armored glass not
Lexan. Lexan may be as tough but in the long run Glass is superior. How
large is your "lens"?

Joe




plugster March 6th 05 03:21 PM

Lexan is the GE trade name for polycarbonate. Other companies also make
polycarbonate and GE also makes acrylic. One trade name for acrylic is
Plexiglas. Almost all hatches come with acrylic standard so replacing them
with acrylic is normally fine. Also acrylic is normally much more scratch
resistant than polycarbonate and somewhat more UV resistant. Polycarbonate
is much stronger but normally less stiff than acrylic.

That being said, there are many grades of both acrylic and polycarbonate.
If you are to use polycarbonate I highly recommend you use the actual GE
Lexan with the scratch and UV resistant coating. If you use acrylic make
sure it has UV inhibitors and a high Tg (temperature where it become soft).
If you do not use the proper type of each the life will be greatly reduced.



"JR Gilbreath" wrote in message
...
Has anyone replaced a hatch lens lately or know a good place to have one
duplicated?




Capt. Neal® March 6th 05 05:41 PM



Forget about glass. Go with Lexan. Half inch thick Lexan is better and stronger
than glass. It's available in a variety of tints, colors and thicknesses. It is also
easier to cut. You can use a jigsaw.

I hope this helps. BTW, using the word 'lens' for a flat piece of glass
or plastic sounds stupid. Call it a replacement 'glass'. I hope this helps.

CN



"JR Gilbreath" wrote in message ...
Has anyone replaced a hatch lens lately or know a good place to have one
duplicated?


Capt. Neal® March 6th 05 05:43 PM

Wrong! Glass breaks if you drop a winch handle or something sharp and
heavy onto it. Lexan doesn't break as easily as glass. They use the stuff
on the cockpit covers of fighter jets. It's the cat's meow.

CN


"Joe" wrote in message oups.com...
Bull****! Lexan crazes over time. If your doing a hatch use armored
glass.

Do you want Bizwanger glasses number or not?

Joe


Capt. Neal® March 6th 05 05:44 PM


"Joe" wrote in message oups.com...
Well lens implies an item that provide a focus. I work with optical
engineers all the time and when you imply Lens for a window I assumed
you were a ******.


You assumed pretty much right.

CN

Capt. Neal® March 6th 05 05:47 PM


"katysails" wrote in message ...
Glass is a heck of a lot heavier than Lexan...which makes a difference for
anyone that has a performance boat...I'd stick with Lexan...


If you were really worried about performance of your French Failure,
you would go on a diet and lose about thirty pounds. Mr. Sails would
appreciate THAT a lot more than a hatch that weighed two pounds less.

CN

Capt. Neal® March 6th 05 05:53 PM

Acrylic is what you get when you buy Plexiglas brand plastic.

It is an inferior product for boat use. It is also difficult to cut
with a saw because the heat melts it behind the saw blade.

BTW, I used tinted, 1/4" Lexan as permanent stormboards to back
up my deadlights on the inside of my fine vessel. The Lexan was
very easy to cut and fit and drill.

You can see one of the fitted deadlights he
http://captneal.homestead.com/Navigation.html

CN

"JR Gilbreath" wrote in message ...
Thanks Capt.
It sure is nice to get a straight answer every once in awhile. Do
you know the difference between Lexan and acrylic? I found one place
that you could send them and they would would send you an estimate that
you had to approve before they started reworking them. They said that
their price was usually about half what a new hatch would cost but that
seems high to me. They specified that the hatchs (Lewmar) had to have
acrylic. I have never worked with Lexan or an acrylic so I not sure how
much trouble it is.
Thanks Again
JR

Capt. Mooron wrote:

Lexan.... tinted if required. It shouldn't be difficult to locate a local
supplier in your area. You can cut and drill it yourself from the original
as a template or pay to have it done. I'm replacing mine this spring. I'll
cut it with a jigsaw and use my drill press to make the bolt holes. Sand and
polish the edges. If you have a seal channel like mine ... use a router to
carve it. Buy extra Lexan so you can practise your cuts.

CM

"JR Gilbreath" wrote in message
...

Has anyone replaced a hatch lens lately or know a good place to have one
duplicated?






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