Dave,

Dougboat did not say a dozen.

He quoted "at least 25" said that he heard it on the radio.

Al Shapton has a radio show right.

Does Ted Kennedy, Jane Fonda, the Dixie Chicks, M. Moore, Al Jazeere?

Just wondering what radio Doug tuned into and threw away the knob.

Joe

"DSK" wrote
Vito wrote:
I'm unaware of any prisoners being 'hazed' to death, let alone dozens

Well, you haven't been paying attention then. According to the Army
itself, "at least 25" fatalities have occured to prisoners being
questioned.

I watch the major news channels and read Time but this is the first I've
heard this. Tnx.

"DSK" wrote

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/...in614905.shtml
Note the date, the count goes up as time goes by
.......

Oh, OK, I was thinking more about systematic torture approved by the brass
rather than more isolated field incidents - not that the latter should be
ignored. In fact, there is a story in this weeks Time about a Marine Lt
shooting two prisoners under questionable circumstances. I didn't consider
that torture - murder maybe, or just a mistake under pressure, but not
torture. The pair died instantly. The Lt is being tried for murder.

Joe wrote:
Sheeze and we are the bad guys right?


Torture? That's what good guys do, right?


WTF Doug. You seems to have a need to hate our troops because of the
actions of a few.

Quote *anything* I have ever posted that even hints that I "hate our
troops."

DSK

Dave wrote:
Not surprising. As you can see from other posts, Doug seems to play a bit
fast and loose with the "facts."

Yeah yeah, when proven wrong, lie. I suppose if we get this tactic from
Vice President Cheney, why shouldn't you play the same cards?

First you insisted there were no fatalities due to US torturing of
prisoners. Now you seem to be backpedaling but still insisting that I
must be wrong.

When will you face reality?

DSK

When will YOU face reality. Your party and your liberal
ideas were soundly rejected in the election in November.

Give it up. You look the fool.

CN


"DSK" wrote in message ...
Dave wrote:
Not surprising. As you can see from other posts, Doug seems to play a bit
fast and loose with the "facts."

Yeah yeah, when proven wrong, lie. I suppose if we get this tactic from
Vice President Cheney, why shouldn't you play the same cards?

First you insisted there were no fatalities due to US torturing of
prisoners. Now you seem to be backpedaling but still insisting that I
must be wrong.

When will you face reality?

DSK

You liberals hate the troops, you hate the war, you hate the Commander-in-Chief,
you hate the country unless it is run by an impeached, liberal, Democrat, slimeball
of a President like your man Clinton.

Face it. Your party lost the election. Nobody wants your brand of liberalism.
You and your ilk are too stupid to realize your ideas are pathetic, your methods
are anti-American, your wish is socialism and your hopes are for this country
to be defeated. You are a joke and your desires are pathetic. You are out of
touch with reality and you can't even realize when you have been rejected.

GET OUT OF HERE!

CN


"DSK" wrote in message ...
Joe wrote:
Sheeze and we are the bad guys right?


Torture? That's what good guys do, right?


WTF Doug. You seems to have a need to hate our troops because of the
actions of a few.

Quote *anything* I have ever posted that even hints that I "hate our
troops."

DSK

First you insisted there were no fatalities due to US torturing of
prisoners.


Dave wrote:
What are you smoking, Doug? Would you please identify the post in which I
said any such thing?


Sorry, I thought you were chiming in with Joe & Vito in claiming that
the torture of U.S. prisoners was just some "good clean fun."

DSK

"DSK" wrote

Sorry, I thought you were chiming in with Joe & Vito in claiming that
the torture of U.S. prisoners was just some "good clean fun."

C'mon Doug, I never said "good clean fun". However I do recognize that
intellegence info from some prisoners is needed to save US lives and see
getting it as a necessary evil. The degree of "torture" condoned should be
comenserate with the value of the info. Suppose a captive knew the location
of a hostage his group planned to behead in 12 hours. How much mental and/or
physical discomfort should I be allowed to inflict to get that info?

Hey Doug,

What about all that good clean fun washing gallons and gallons of
blood, teeth, brains, guts, and such off the block long splatter
pattern from the 125 people blown to bits by the mis-treated insurgents
this week... Now that good clean fun right?

Joe