"DSK" wrote
You don't mind that these "frat initiation" type procedures killed
number of prisoners?

It's not unknown for hazing to be fatal, but not dozens at one time &
place. And usually a murder prosecution follows.

I'm unaware of any prisoners being 'hazed' to death, let alone dozens. The
news hasn't reported serious injuries let alone any deaths. The "tortures"
we've been crying about are putting fake menstrual blood on a prisoner
making him too unclean to pray, parading them naked before women, "harlots"
teasing them until they get an erection, standing hooded on a washtub having
been told that they will be electrocuted if they step off it - all things I
deem hazing instead of torture. If you know of more serious torture like
nails pulled out or bones broken please fill me in.


My beef is that the current group in power have arrogated to themselves
the right to kill or imprison anybody they want, for any reason or no
reason, and use torture. That's generally not accepted among civilized
nations as the way "good guys" behave.

Good beef.