The only thing that video shows is the inability of the cat to point.
The RP80 driver had to bear off about 20 degrees to avoid being t-boned
by the show off cat driver. I suspect that if a destination were
upwind the RP80 might just beat the Gunboat to the pier.

The RP can be indeed faster. I read in Latitude 38
the RP-80 beat the GB-62 in another race. I don't
recall the circumstances or point of sail. I'd guess the
RP would be faster directly downwind and as you
said, closehauled, while the GB-62 would perform
better on a reach.

The Gunboat does offer advantages in comfort over
the sleds that make it a clear winner for passagemaking.


"rgnmstr" wrote in message
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The only thing that video shows is the inability of the cat to point.
The RP80 driver had to bear off about 20 degrees to avoid being t-boned
by the show off cat driver. I suspect that if a destination were
upwind the RP80 might just beat the Gunboat to the pier.

"rgnmstr" wrote...
The only thing that video shows is the inability of the cat to point.

Some cats can point. It looked to me like the Gunboat was not trimmed in
hard either.

The RP80 driver had to bear off about 20 degrees to avoid being t-boned
by the show off cat driver. I suspect that if a destination were
upwind the RP80 might just beat the Gunboat to the pier.


Seems quite possible under many conditions. But the cat still has some
advantages: less heeling, shallow draft, etc etc

Bart Senior wrote:
The RP can be indeed faster. I read in Latitude 38
the RP-80 beat the GB-62 in another race. I don't
recall the circumstances or point of sail. I'd guess the
RP would be faster directly downwind and as you
said, closehauled, while the GB-62 would perform
better on a reach.


Probably so, the ad for the Gunboat touts a screecher over an asymmetric
spinnaker... don't see why you couldn't fly an A-sail anyway.

The Gunboat does offer advantages in comfort over
the sleds that make it a clear winner for passagemaking.


One advatnage of a cat that appeals to me after our recent trip is that
they are usually easier to steer straight in a following sea. But the
jerky motion might be less comfortable than the mono's corkscrew roll.
Every boat has it's plusses & minusses.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

I'd like to find out for myself. I'm pursuing some
factyory tranatlantic delivery work on one of these
just to find out if I like them on the ocean.

There are few US built catamarans. The Manta 42
which has a low bridge deck. I wonder if this is the
reason why I see them for sale often. And the
Mainecat 40 which has only canvas for protection
in the deckhouse--not exactly comforting protection.

I think the gunboat 62 is a fine vessel, but at $2.2 million
I would rather built a custom cat out of aluminum.

For an interesting link on a one-off Aluminum cruising
cat with a high bridgedeck, check out this link.

http://malvm1.mala.bc.ca/~bigras/o7/o7.htx

This fellow built an impressive boat, and then sold it just
after he finished the bulk of the work, due to a divorce.

It cost him $70k to build hull and deck. Spars are
homemade. I would have bought a better boom.

Overall an impressive job, but not worth the $10k
he made for his labors--which works out to $3.33/hr
or less.

"DSK" wrote

One advatnage of a cat that appeals to me after our recent trip is that
they are usually easier to steer straight in a following sea. But the
jerky motion might be less comfortable than the mono's corkscrew roll.
Every boat has it's plusses & minusses.

Bart Senior wrote:
I'd like to find out for myself. I'm pursuing some
factyory tranatlantic delivery work on one of these
just to find out if I like them on the ocean.


That would be cool.

There are few US built catamarans.

That's because they take so much labor... maybe not twice as much as a
monohull


... the
Mainecat 40 which has only canvas for protection
in the deckhouse--not exactly comforting protection.

Right, but then it's supposed to be a hotrod for daysailing & weekending.


I think the gunboat 62 is a fine vessel, but at $2.2 million
I would rather built a custom cat out of aluminum.


Shucks, for that kind of money, you could pick a LOT of better options
IMHO.... including spending far less on a boat or two and banking the
rest...

For an interesting link on a one-off Aluminum cruising
cat with a high bridgedeck, check out this link.

http://malvm1.mala.bc.ca/~bigras/o7/o7.htx


That is a pretty cool boat.

This fellow built an impressive boat, and then sold it just
after he finished the bulk of the work, due to a divorce.


Bummer. At least he didn't have to split the boat with her.

It cost him $70k to build hull and deck. Spars are
homemade. I would have bought a better boom.

Overall an impressive job, but not worth the $10k
he made for his labors--which works out to $3.33/hr
or less.


He's lucky. A lot of home boat builders don't even recover material cost
when selling a partially completed boat. Aluminum is outstanding though.
I like the dinghy too.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

"Bart Senior" wrote in message
...

Overall an impressive job, but not worth the $10k
he made for his labors--which works out to $3.33/hr
or less.


Bart, how much per hour do you make when working on your boat?

Scotty

This poor guy did tons of work and never got a chance
to sail his dreamboat--a tragedy. 3000 hours of work!

For myself, I won't make anything while working/repairing
it. The payback comes later, but it is not likely to be a huge
money maker--ever.

I want to make $600/day or $100 a head/day and $300 for
a half day, or $50/head/half-day. If I hire a Captain to run
it for me I'd make less than if I run it myself.

In reality, I'll be happy breaking even on my expenses
over the course of a year and having use of the boat.

Everything I make will be going back into the boat for
a while.

"Scott Vernon" wrote

"Bart Senior" wrote

Overall an impressive job, but not worth the $10k
he made for his labors--which works out to $3.33/hr
or less.


Bart, how much per hour do you make when working on your boat?

Scotty