What are the advantages to having a straight traveller? I thought I saw a
curved one somewhere on some racing machine.

I didn't think it went to weather that well, but it wasn't terrible.
Certainly didn't point as well as a typical mono, and didn't point as well
as the Athena I was on in the BVIs. It seems like they're really well built.
I thought it's decently fast... last time I had it out, we were doing 14kts
in about 22kts, and not straining at all.

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OzOne wrote in message ...
On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 12:57:22 -0800, "JG"
scribbled thusly:

I know it's probably a matter of expense, but it seems like the traveller
should be curved not straight across. Have you seen this sort of set up?
Does that make any sense? I like the boat a lot. Fast!

There are advantages with a straight traveller, and making a curved
one would mean having a bathtub cockpit like a Hunter...puke!

Fast compared to a mono, but no rocketship.
Not particularly weatherly.
He has an interesting technique when doing short trips of under a day
when the wind it on the nose. Starts the leeeward OB and lets it idle
in gear, it balances the boat really well and adds a couple of
kts...weird!


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

Gaynz, you are about a dumb as a box of rocks. The difference between a straight and
curved traveler is a straight traveler is straight while a curved traveler is curved.

No, seriously, a straight traveler is not as efficient as a curved traveler. A curved traveler
can be adjusted without affecting the mainsheet trim while a straight traveler, when adjusted,
affects the mainsheet pull to a greater extent the farther from the center is it set because
the distance relationship varies between the sheet and boom.

I hope this helps.

CN


"JG" wrote in message ...
What are the advantages to having a straight traveller? I thought I saw a
curved one somewhere on some racing machine.

I didn't think it went to weather that well, but it wasn't terrible.
Certainly didn't point as well as a typical mono, and didn't point as well
as the Athena I was on in the BVIs. It seems like they're really well built.
I thought it's decently fast... last time I had it out, we were doing 14kts
in about 22kts, and not straining at all.

--
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www.sailnow.com

OzOne wrote in message ...
On Thu, 3 Mar 2005 12:57:22 -0800, "JG"
scribbled thusly:

I know it's probably a matter of expense, but it seems like the traveller
should be curved not straight across. Have you seen this sort of set up?
Does that make any sense? I like the boat a lot. Fast!

There are advantages with a straight traveller, and making a curved
one would mean having a bathtub cockpit like a Hunter...puke!

Fast compared to a mono, but no rocketship.
Not particularly weatherly.
He has an interesting technique when doing short trips of under a day
when the wind it on the nose. Starts the leeeward OB and lets it idle
in gear, it balances the boat really well and adds a couple of
kts...weird!


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

On the other hand, with a faster boat the skipper tends to cut closer the margin
of error in bad weather situations. This can often lead to difficult situations
if the gale arrives a little sooner than expected.

In my opinion, a slower boat is a safer boat every time, provided the slower
boat is a seaworthy boat with a safe righting moment. This usually discounts
any multi and favors heavy-displacement, deep keel vessels which, even if
they turn 360 degrees, will come back upright on their own. The fact is there
is NO, NONE, ZERO, ZILCH, NADA, multihull capable of this self-righting
which is built into any real voyaging monohull.

Multi-hulls are inherently more dangerous than a voyaging monohull.

I hope this helps.

CN


"Lonny Bruce" wrote in message news:MjKVd.74173$uc.62165@trnddc04...
BS wrote: In sailing, speed is an addiction. A multihull is in my
future.


Speed can also mean safety.

You should always try to leave on a journey right after a low passes, giving
you fair weather for (presumably) a few days. If you are fast you can
lengthen the time the 'good' weather sticks around. Or you can outrun the
'bad' weather with enough speed.

I put the words 'good' and 'bad' in quotes, because sometimes racers want
low pressures, as there is more wind. So the above comments refer to crusing
weather mainly.

Lonny

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"Bart Senior" wrote in message
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Thanks for the input Oz. 10 pts.

I find very little written about sailing Multihulls, and hear lots
of BS.

What else can you tell us?

In sailing, speed is an addiction. A multihull is in my future.

OzOne wrote
On Wed, 2 Mar 2005 19:15:33 -0500, "Bart Senior"
scribbled thusly:

What else? There is lots more to it.
Bart, there's tons, but I'd really need to think about it because I
just do stuff without thinking about it.

I know on smaller cats you dump the jib if
it tries to submarine. Is that true for big cat?

Yep, but by then it's a bit late. Better to see it coming and ease
earlier or shorten sail.

Racing is really different to what you do cruising, or even getting
caught in some big scary stuff so the techniques are quite different.
Racing, you always have a hand on the sheets and more importantly
traveller ( they are monsters and often go the whole way across the
boat) pushing really hard, the boats are steered with the traveller
because it's quick to dump and faster to get back on than a mainsheet.

With a cruiser, like any mono, you shorten sail very early and don't
overstress the boat.
it's very easy to do because you appear to just get more speed and no
more heel, unlike a mono which will start to stagger if it's
overcanvassed.

One thing you never ever do is sail a fast multi without gloves, you
can easily get a rope burn right down to the bone. I wear 2 pairs of
gloves when it's fresh and I'm on the traveller!

Unlike mono's where heading up often gets you
out of trouble, I understand on that Cat, bearing
away is the better choice.

Yep, flattens out the boat...just like getting a bullet flying the
kite on a mono.
It really depends on what the conditions are like at that instant.
You wouldn't want to pull away and plow into the back of a wave at an
angle, but it's quite safe to run along the face of a wave then slide
up and over the back, along it, along the trough and then along the
face of the next wave where in a mono you'd probably quarter the sea.



Get a ride on a small lightweight multi, preferrably a tri, and you
will probably fall desperately in love.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.