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Ok folks,
You all have missed it. Little Ellen can not be convicted for violation of COLREG #5. And I'll show you.. Capt. Neal states that COLREG Rule #5 "Every vessel shall at all times maintain a proper look-out by sight as well as by hearing as well as by all available means appropriate in the prevailing circumstances and conditions so as to make a full appraisal of the situation and of the risk of collision." IN THE PREVAILING CIRCUMSTANCES AND CONDITIONS (Little Ellen WAS solo) Capt. Neal wrote: "Neither little Ellen nor anybody else is capable of sight or hearing while they are asleep, exhausted below in a speeding sailboat." So by his own admittance, as a USCG Licensed U.S. Merchant Marine Officer ser.# 1045941 that Little Ellen was exhausted and IN THE PREVAILING CIRCUMSTANCE AND CONDITIONS of being solo, had to sleep, and could not keep a proper look out. So did she break the law? Yes. But IN THE PREVAILING CIRCUMSTANCES AND CONDITIONS of being SOLO, She had to. So good luck trying to find a court that will convict her on not having a proper look out in the prevailing circumstances and conditions. Now if you want to get picky, You can go give that guy who lasted 2 weeks at sea on a log raft after the tsunami a ticket. No proper look out, No night time running lights, Non-registered Vessel, un-seaworthy craft, failing to file a float plan, and the list goes on. And don't forget to give a ticket to all those who been stranded at sea in a rubber raft for the same thing. In The Prevailing Circumstances is in the prevailing circumstance. It does not state what that circumstance is. It does not state if it is life threating, a 30ft vessel, log raft, or a rubber raft. And it does not state what those conditions are to be also. And besides, it just sounds like Capt Neal is being ****y because the person he was rooting for didn't win. Have a great day... Ship Skipper "Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ... Just what don't you little Ellen supporters understand about the first part of the following COLREG Rule? Rule 5 Look-out Every vessel shall at all times maintain a proper look-out by sight as well as by hearing . . . Folks, even the most ignorant among you cannot claim you do not know what the words "sight" and "hearing" mean. Check out what Merriam Webster has to say about it. sight \"sït\ n 1 : something seen or worth seeing 2 : the process or power of seeing; esp : the sense of which the eye is the receptor and by which qualities of appearance (as position, shape, and color) are perceived 3 : inspection 4 : a device (as a small bead on a gun barrel) that aids the eye in aiming 5 : view, glimpse 6 : the range of vision - sight.less adj hear.ing n 1 : the process, function, or power of perceiving sound; esp : the special sense by which noises and tones are received as stimuli 2 : earshot 3 : opportunity to be heard 4 : a listening to arguments (as in a court); also : a session of (as of a legislative committee) in which testimony is taken from witnesses © 1995 Zane Publishing, Inc. The Merriam-Webster Dictionary © 1994 by Merriam-Webster, Incorporated "At all times" means at all times. It means if Ellen is sleeping she is failing to comply with Rule 5. In order to be legal there needs to be a human being seeing AND hearing at all times. This means Rule 5 states ANY long-distance race where solo skipper sleeps is in violation of the rule and an illegal enterprise. Those of you who argue that it only becomes illegal if Ellen has a collision argue falsely. Legal and responsible racing cannot include long-distance solo sailing racing by definition. Neither little Ellen nor anybody else is capable of sight or hearing while they are asleep, exhausted below in a speeding sailboat. Ellen is a whore because she gets paid and has a whole team pimping her engaging in an illegal activity. It's about time real sailors stopped supporting this illegal activity which is detrimental and dangerous to sailors everywhere. I certainly will not identify with, worship or give kudos to any law breaker. Until such time as little Ellen operates legally, I will continue to call a spade a spade. The only record she has broken, in my opinion, is 71 days in violation of Rule 5. It does not matter how much or what kind of electronic measures her boat employs. Unless she stays awake and maintains a look-out by sight and hearing twenty-four hours a day, she is operating illegally. Ellen is a lawbreaker by law and by her own admission. Those who support little Ellen support law breaking. You cannot argue otherwise intelligently. Every argument you attempt to employ will be shot down by the simplicity and explicitness of Rule 5. Captain Neal Warren USCG Licensed U.S. Merchant Marine Officer ser.# 1045941 --- Safety at sea is no accident. |
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He's just a troll... forget him. But, nice explanation.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Ship Skipper" wrote in message ... Ok folks, You all have missed it. Little Ellen can not be convicted for violation of COLREG #5. And I'll show you.. Capt. Neal states that COLREG Rule #5 "Every vessel shall at all times maintain a proper look-out by sight as well as by hearing as well as by all available means appropriate in the prevailing circumstances and conditions so as to make a full appraisal of the situation and of the risk of collision." IN THE PREVAILING CIRCUMSTANCES AND CONDITIONS (Little Ellen WAS solo) Capt. Neal wrote: "Neither little Ellen nor anybody else is capable of sight or hearing while they are asleep, exhausted below in a speeding sailboat." So by his own admittance, as a USCG Licensed U.S. Merchant Marine Officer ser.# 1045941 that Little Ellen was exhausted and IN THE PREVAILING CIRCUMSTANCE AND CONDITIONS of being solo, had to sleep, and could not keep a proper look out. So did she break the law? Yes. But IN THE PREVAILING CIRCUMSTANCES AND CONDITIONS of being SOLO, She had to. So good luck trying to find a court that will convict her on not having a proper look out in the prevailing circumstances and conditions. Now if you want to get picky, You can go give that guy who lasted 2 weeks at sea on a log raft after the tsunami a ticket. No proper look out, No night time running lights, Non-registered Vessel, un-seaworthy craft, failing to file a float plan, and the list goes on. And don't forget to give a ticket to all those who been stranded at sea in a rubber raft for the same thing. In The Prevailing Circumstances is in the prevailing circumstance. It does not state what that circumstance is. It does not state if it is life threating, a 30ft vessel, log raft, or a rubber raft. And it does not state what those conditions are to be also. And besides, it just sounds like Capt Neal is being ****y because the person he was rooting for didn't win. Have a great day... Ship Skipper "Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ... Just what don't you little Ellen supporters understand about the first part of the following COLREG Rule? Rule 5 Look-out Every vessel shall at all times maintain a proper look-out by sight as well as by hearing . . . Folks, even the most ignorant among you cannot claim you do not know what the words "sight" and "hearing" mean. Check out what Merriam Webster has to say about it. sight \"sït\ n 1 : something seen or worth seeing 2 : the process or power of seeing; esp : the sense of which the eye is the receptor and by which qualities of appearance (as position, shape, and color) are perceived 3 : inspection 4 : a device (as a small bead on a gun barrel) that aids the eye in aiming 5 : view, glimpse 6 : the range of vision - sight.less adj hear.ing n 1 : the process, function, or power of perceiving sound; esp : the special sense by which noises and tones are received as stimuli 2 : earshot 3 : opportunity to be heard 4 : a listening to arguments (as in a court); also : a session of (as of a legislative committee) in which testimony is taken from witnesses © 1995 Zane Publishing, Inc. The Merriam-Webster Dictionary © 1994 by Merriam-Webster, Incorporated "At all times" means at all times. It means if Ellen is sleeping she is failing to comply with Rule 5. In order to be legal there needs to be a human being seeing AND hearing at all times. This means Rule 5 states ANY long-distance race where solo skipper sleeps is in violation of the rule and an illegal enterprise. Those of you who argue that it only becomes illegal if Ellen has a collision argue falsely. Legal and responsible racing cannot include long-distance solo sailing racing by definition. Neither little Ellen nor anybody else is capable of sight or hearing while they are asleep, exhausted below in a speeding sailboat. Ellen is a whore because she gets paid and has a whole team pimping her engaging in an illegal activity. It's about time real sailors stopped supporting this illegal activity which is detrimental and dangerous to sailors everywhere. I certainly will not identify with, worship or give kudos to any law breaker. Until such time as little Ellen operates legally, I will continue to call a spade a spade. The only record she has broken, in my opinion, is 71 days in violation of Rule 5. It does not matter how much or what kind of electronic measures her boat employs. Unless she stays awake and maintains a look-out by sight and hearing twenty-four hours a day, she is operating illegally. Ellen is a lawbreaker by law and by her own admission. Those who support little Ellen support law breaking. You cannot argue otherwise intelligently. Every argument you attempt to employ will be shot down by the simplicity and explicitness of Rule 5. Captain Neal Warren USCG Licensed U.S. Merchant Marine Officer ser.# 1045941 --- Safety at sea is no accident. |
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