OzOne wrote in message
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On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 20:39:49 -0500, "Scott Vernon"
scribbled thusly:


OzOne wrote in message
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On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 20:29:26 -0500, "Scott Vernon"
scribbled thusly:

http://webapp.cdc.gov/sasweb/ncipc/mortrate10_sy.html

Sad isn't it, over 17,000 people who blew their brains out
because
they were depressed and a gun was al too handy.

Sad indeed, it would have been much better if they had used a
knife,
or a rope, or overdosed on drugs, or sucked a car tailpipe, or,
well,
anything but a gun.

Scotty


Yep, at least with a knife,rope,drug,or exhaust, you have the
opportunity to change you mind and call for help.

You can change your mind while swinging from a rope, but it won't
help
any.

SV


Most people who hang themselves don't die from a broken neck.
Mainly they asprixiate after passing out from reduced blood flow to
the brain....it's only after they pass out that they relax enough to
strangle.

So explain how they can then change their mind, and do something about
it.


Then there are the others who never in fact dangle, but tie a rope
around something, pass a noose over their head and just sit down.

And some tie a rock around their neck and throw into deep water.
Wonder if the change their mind on the way down?


How about bridge jumpers? Bet they change their mind about 1/2 way
down. Too late! Splat!

Scotty

In Massachusetts, we have the toughest gun laws in the country. We also
have the lowest gun death rate (by a large margin) in the country. We
also have one of the lowest suicide rates in the country, about 60% of
the national average.


Scott Vernon wrote:
You could change your mind with a gun and NOT pull the trigger.
Anyways, they'll just try again.

Scooter

OzOne wrote in message
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On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 20:33:22 -0500, "Scott Vernon"
scribbled thusly:


OzOne wrote in message n




Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

There ya go, you made my point.
With cars, pills you do get a chance to call for help.

You can call for help after you die from car exhaust? I didn't

know

that.

Scotty


Nope, but you sure as hell can before the gas gets you.

Scooter, back when, I attended a whole bunch of suicides, in plenty

of

them there were signs that the person had changed their mind and
unsuccessfully tried to call for help.
You know, things like, the phone knocked over, signs that they'd

tried

to crawl to the door, etc, and many others where they had managed to
call, but help arrived too late.

Never seen that in a gunshot suicide.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

Joe wrote:


And who said anything about it being just fine for police to brutalize
suspects, and incarceration without charge or trial is perfectly
acceptable? ............Not me!

Remember the discusion about car thieves?




And as far as my grammer skills I will try to do better. Thats one of
the main reason I'm here. I'm so thankful for you and the other grammer
and spelling nazis to show me the error of my ways.

No problem Joe, you're coming along rather well, you're skills already surpass those of JW.

Cheers
Marty

On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 12:32:42 +1100, OzOne wrote this crap:


Sad isn't it, over 17,000 people who blew their brains out because
they were depressed and a gun was al too handy.

Sad indeed, it would have been much better if they had used a knife,
or a rope, or overdosed on drugs, or sucked a car tailpipe, or, well,
anything but a gun.


Yep, at least with a knife,rope,drug,or exhaust, you have the
opportunity to change you mind and call for help.


Sure you do. You're sitting in your garage with with the car running,
and you're out of breath. Call for help. Try it, and tell us what
happens.







Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 12:45:18 +1100, OzOne wrote this crap:



Most people who hang themselves don't die from a broken neck.
Mainly they asprixiate after passing out from reduced blood flow to
the brain....it's only after they pass out that they relax enough to
strangle.
Then there are the others who never in fact dangle, but tie a rope
around something, pass a noose over their head and just sit down.


Have you tried this?





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 20:52:07 -0500, "Scott Vernon"
wrote this crap:


How about bridge jumpers? Bet they change their mind about 1/2 way
down. Too late! Splat!


I've done that, but I have super powers.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 12:38:00 +1100, OzOne wrote this crap:


You can call for help after you die from car exhaust? I didn't know
that.

Scotty

Nope, but you sure as hell can before the gas gets you.

Scooter, back when, I attended a whole bunch of suicides,


Really? So people meeting you face to face decide to kill themselves?
That says a lot about you.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 22:15:07 -0500, Jeff Morris
wrote this crap:

In Massachusetts, we have the toughest gun laws in the country.


So does Detroit.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

OzOne wrote
Ummm your webpage above shows a rate something over 6/100,000 so
unless the population of the US has been substantially reduced, that
amounts to tens of thousands...No?

No, it adds up to under 12,000 - most 'victims' of the WOD.

This might help
http://tinyurl.com/3r8wv

It really is a shock to the system eh.

Sure is. I had no idea there were that many suicides and justifiable
homocides. 30,000! wow!

Of course we have to put that in perspective by remembering that medical
"misadventures" (doctors don't make mistakes, they have misadventures) kill
over 100,000/yr.

Jeff, what's your point?

SV

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
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In Massachusetts, we have the toughest gun laws in the country. We
also
have the lowest gun death rate (by a large margin) in the country.
We
also have one of the lowest suicide rates in the country, about 60%
of
the national average.


Scott Vernon wrote:
You could change your mind with a gun and NOT pull the trigger.
Anyways, they'll just try again.

Scooter

OzOne wrote in message
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On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 20:33:22 -0500, "Scott Vernon"
scribbled thusly:


OzOne wrote in message n




Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

There ya go, you made my point.
With cars, pills you do get a chance to call for help.

You can call for help after you die from car exhaust? I didn't

know

that.

Scotty


Nope, but you sure as hell can before the gas gets you.

Scooter, back when, I attended a whole bunch of suicides, in
plenty

of

them there were signs that the person had changed their mind and
unsuccessfully tried to call for help.
You know, things like, the phone knocked over, signs that they'd

tried

to crawl to the door, etc, and many others where they had managed
to
call, but help arrived too late.

Never seen that in a gunshot suicide.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.