"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
ink.net...
Section. 10.

Clause 1: No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or
Confederation;
grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit;
make
any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any
Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of
Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility.

Thanks, I forgot that part. A man I knew cited it to claim that drivers
(and other) licenses were "Titles of Nobility" that granted 'privileges' and
were thus unconstitutional. He never won (had a judge agree) but never lost
either (case always thrown out) and kept on driving til he died of old age.

OzOne wrote
The state has to fear a situation where thee are tens of thousands of
gunshot deaths each year during silly incidents like road rage, and
arguments over fences, dogs and cats.

Jeeze, is it like that in Oz? I never imagined!! Certainly not like that
here.
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/hmrt.htm#longterm

OzOne wrote
You need the press to publicise the fact that there are 30,000 gun
deaths in the US each year, .....

Where on earth did you got that number? Please cite your source.

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/hmrt.htm#longterm

Vito wrote:
OzOne wrote

You need the press to publicise the fact that there are 30,000 gun
deaths in the US each year, .....


Where on earth did you got that number? Please cite your source.

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/hmrt.htm#longterm



I already posted a source for that. It does require about 10 seconds of
work to access the database.
http://webapp.cdc.gov/sasweb/ncipc/mortrate10_sy.html

You're confusing "gun deaths" with "homicide." The majority of gun
deaths in the US are suicides.

"Horvath" wrote in message

On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 01:11:12 GMT, "Maxprop"
wrote this crap:

My 10ga. signaling cannon. Hurts no one, but gets one's attention
rather
nicely.


****ing toy. You've just shown that you know nothing about guns.

LOL. I've forgotten more about guns than you've ever known. Don't even
go
there.


Heh Heh Heh. Have you already forgotten that I was once one of the
biggest arms dealers in North America? I know more about military
weapons than you can ever dream.

Nope, haven't forgotten that, because I never knew it in the first place.
You must be 'Don' of "Don's Guns" in Indianapolis. He was the largest at
one time. Actually I think he's serving time at gummint expense these days.

You probably do know more about military arms that I. That doesn't alter
the fact that you are dead wrong about my knowledge of firearms.

Max

OzOne wrote in message
...
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 20:40:41 -0500, Jeff Morris
scribbled thusly:

Roughly 30,000 gun deaths. More than half are suicide, followed by
homicide and then accidents. "Legal interventions" are a tiny
fraction.

If we look at age, 158 kids, 16 and under, died in 2002 in bicycle
accidents. 977 children died from firearms.

http://webapp.cdc.gov/sasweb/ncipc/mortrate10_sy.html

Sad isn't it, over 17,000 people who blew their brains out because
they were depressed and a gun was al too handy.

Sad indeed, it would have been much better if they had used a knife,
or a rope, or overdosed on drugs, or sucked a car tailpipe, or, well,
anything but a gun.

Scotty

OzOne wrote in message n




Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

There ya go, you made my point.
With cars, pills you do get a chance to call for help.

You can call for help after you die from car exhaust? I didn't know
that.

Scotty

OzOne wrote in message
...
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 20:29:26 -0500, "Scott Vernon"
scribbled thusly:

http://webapp.cdc.gov/sasweb/ncipc/mortrate10_sy.html

Sad isn't it, over 17,000 people who blew their brains out
because
they were depressed and a gun was al too handy.

Sad indeed, it would have been much better if they had used a
knife,
or a rope, or overdosed on drugs, or sucked a car tailpipe, or,
well,
anything but a gun.

Scotty


Yep, at least with a knife,rope,drug,or exhaust, you have the
opportunity to change you mind and call for help.

You can change your mind while swinging from a rope, but it won't help
any.

SV

OzOne wrote

Scooter, back when, I attempted a whole bunch of suicides, in plenty
of


Keep trying.

;)

You could change your mind with a gun and NOT pull the trigger.
Anyways, they'll just try again.

Scooter

OzOne wrote in message
...
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 20:33:22 -0500, "Scott Vernon"
scribbled thusly:


OzOne wrote in message n




Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

There ya go, you made my point.
With cars, pills you do get a chance to call for help.

You can call for help after you die from car exhaust? I didn't
know
that.

Scotty

Nope, but you sure as hell can before the gas gets you.

Scooter, back when, I attended a whole bunch of suicides, in plenty
of
them there were signs that the person had changed their mind and
unsuccessfully tried to call for help.
You know, things like, the phone knocked over, signs that they'd
tried
to crawl to the door, etc, and many others where they had managed to
call, but help arrived too late.

Never seen that in a gunshot suicide.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.