http://www.bcwf.bc.ca/s=122/bcw1069915015293/



OzOne wrote in message news

Like I said, you need a national law to cover this.


On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 18:24:14 -0500, "Bart Senior"
scribbled thusly:

The two permit held by this bodyguard, allow this individual
to carry a permit in a total of 30 states, but not New York.

New York is one of the "NAZI" gun states that deny individuals
the right to protect themselves, unless they are rich liberal
politicians.

This person was declaring it because he could not get it through
airport security. Even in checked baggage, it must be declared.

In New York, this will get you arrested, even if you are merely
changing planes passing through, without leaving the airport.

OzOne wrote

Only thing the guard did wrong was not have a licence to carry a
pistol in that state.

He declared it at checkin so was obviously unaware that he was in
breach.....Ya don't need to be smart to carry a gun.

Seems you need to look at national laws to cover this.



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OzOne wrote in message ...
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 18:50:37 -0500, "Bart Senior"
scribbled thusly:

Does Australia have a national permit? How hard are they to
get?

No National permit, each State has it's own laws, but if you are
licences in one State, you are permitted to carry your weapon in
another on a temporary/visitor status.
A pistol licence is extremely hard to obtain and for most purposes you
need to be in the security or protection industries to carry a pistol,
and even then it almost invariable cannot be concealed.
Sport shooters are allowed a pistol, but it must be locked up in the
licenced pistol club at all times other than when travelling to and
from a shooting range.

Then again, we only have 6 states to fall into line.


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OzOne wrote in message ...
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 21:25:34 GMT, "Bob Crantz"
scribbled thusly:

Your logic:
It's the guns, not the act. Outlaw guns and gun crimes disappear!

Ahhh yes, the simple logic of a simpleton.
Tell me Bob, why do you feel you need a gun to protect yourself?
Could it be taht you like the idea of equal force?

Tell you what, take the guns out of the equation and substitute
words/abuse.
Guess what, words don't kill.

Now replace "guns" with liquor.

Hmmm liquor doesn't kill either, well at not instantly.

Next you be smashing printing presses.

No, not at all.
You need the press to publicise the fact that there are 30,000 gun
deaths in the US each year, and only 45,000 motor vehicle deaths.
Consider that motor vehicles are used each day by most people and, if
you're a thinking person, see the point.


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OzOne wrote in message ...


Even sadder is when an entire population feels it needs a gun to be
safe

On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 09:29:57 -0500, "Vito"
scribbled thusly:

Sad when a government doesn't trust its citizens with simple firearms ...


OzOne wrote in message
...
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 18:50:37 -0500, "Bart Senior"
scribbled thusly:

Does Australia have a national permit? How hard are they to
get?

No National permit, each State has it's own laws, but if you are
licences in one State, you are permitted to carry your weapon in
another on a temporary/visitor status.
A pistol licence is extremely hard to obtain and for most purposes you
need to be in the security or protection industries to carry a pistol,
and even then it almost invariable cannot be concealed.
Sport shooters are allowed a pistol, but it must be locked up in the
licenced pistol club at all times other than when travelling to and
from a shooting range.

Then again, we only have 6 states to fall into line.


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OzOne wrote in message ...
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 00:34:24 GMT, "Maxprop"
scribbled thusly:


OzOne wrote in message

Like I said, you need a national law to cover this.

We once fought a war over state's rights. Such a law would probably
stimulate another civil war. g

Max

Didn't the side that wanted to more freedom win?
Surely freedom to carry a weapon interstate is a basic American right
;-)


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http://www.guncontrolaustralia.org/

OzOne wrote in message ...
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 21:34:41 -0500, DSK
scribbled thusly:

We once fought a war over state's rights. Such a law would probably
stimulate another civil war. g


OzOne wrote:
Didn't the side that wanted to more freedom win?

No, actually the exact opposite. The Confederate States was the ultimate
states-rights organization.
State rights is one thing, freedom of the people is different I think.




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OzOne wrote in message ...
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 19:12:50 -0500, "Scott Vernon"
scribbled thusly:


OzOne wrote


Guess what, words don't kill.


But they can hurt.


You need the press to publicise the fact that there are 30,000 gun
deaths in the US each year, and only 45,000 motor vehicle deaths.
Consider that motor vehicles are used each day by most people and,
if
you're a thinking person, see the point.

The point is, we should outlaw cars. Riiiiight.

SV


Hey, ya got two choices here, you could show the real value of guns by
forcing people to carry one every time they went for a drive...pretty
soon, congestion on the roads would be non existent.....and no-one
would need to buy those stick on bullet holes anymore......do they
sell them in the US or do they just have the real thing :-)


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

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Hey, we have "shall issue" laws in Michigan. The cops were dead set against
it, so far, AFAIK, there have been no incidents with individuals CCWing,
cross your fingers.

John Cairns

On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 09:22:37 +1100, OzOne wrote this crap:

You need the press to publicise the fact that there are 30,000 gun
deaths in the US each year,


Bull****. Bull****. Bull****. There's about 3,000 gun accidents
each year. There's 60,000 children hospitalized in bicycle accidents
each year. Why don't we outlaw bicycles?





and only 45,000 motor vehicle deaths.
Consider that motor vehicles are used each day by most people and, if
you're a thinking person, see the point.


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Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

You do realize that the "statistics" in this article are bogus? Of
course you do, yet you keep posting them.

The crime rates are actually lower in Australia, and for the most part
were unchanged by the gun laws. Robbery, however, did decrease. Was
this because of the law?



Bob Crantz wrote:
http://www.chronwatch.com/content/co...y.asp?aid=8073


OzOne wrote in message ...

On 20 Jan 2005 08:22:03 -0800, "Joe"
scribbled thusly:


They need to lock that sorry MF up and throw away the key.
To bad the fat slob was not packing.

Joe

Only thing the guard did wrong was not have a licence to carry a
pistol in that state.
He declared it at checkin so was obviously unaware that he was in
breach.....Ya don't need to be smart to carry a gun.

Seems you need to look at national laws to cover this.



Oz1...of the 3 twins.

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That's not my point. Ozone just keeps biting, even at the bare hooks.

BC

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
news
You do realize that the "statistics" in this article are bogus? Of
course you do, yet you keep posting them.

The crime rates are actually lower in Australia, and for the most part
were unchanged by the gun laws. Robbery, however, did decrease. Was
this because of the law?



Bob Crantz wrote:
http://www.chronwatch.com/content/co...y.asp?aid=8073


OzOne wrote in message
...

On 20 Jan 2005 08:22:03 -0800, "Joe"
scribbled thusly:


They need to lock that sorry MF up and throw away the key.
To bad the fat slob was not packing.

Joe

Only thing the guard did wrong was not have a licence to carry a
pistol in that state.
He declared it at checkin so was obviously unaware that he was in
breach.....Ya don't need to be smart to carry a gun.

Seems you need to look at national laws to cover this.



Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.