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Donal January 3rd 05 11:51 PM


"Lady Pilot" wrote in message
news:8k9Cd.32292$F25.13706@okepread07...

"JG" wrote:
We have an obligation as the lone superpower to go above and beyond what
is expected.


Why? After they turned down Israel the same day the tragedy happened?



What on earth do you mean by "they"?

Dozens of countries have been affected. "They" have not refused Israeli
assistance at all. You should stop promoting this bigoted nonsense. It
makes you look stupid.




We will be hated by some no matter what we do, but we have a moral
obligation to do all we can to help the less fortunate.


Bwaahwhahahwahaaa! Do you really think those people want us to help?





How many loops do we need to jump through just the help the poor innocent
people there? Their government doesn't want any help, they want to make

the
news...


Whose government? You really are beginning to sound very stupid. The
Tsunami affected more than one country.




Regards


Donal
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katysails January 4th 05 02:34 AM

Will you get off the whole religion thing here??? These are PEOPLE...it
doesn't matter if they worship salamanders....and if one group refuses,
there are 5 million others that won;t so move on down the line...trolling
religion in the wake of a disaster like this just shows the sheer bottom
that you feed on...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
They are being punished for their arrogance, yet they are not capable
of realizing it and mending their heathen ways. Islam is a failed religion
because, at it's very roots, is a belief that by combining war and
religion
Islam would be able to take over the world. IN THEIR ARROGANCE, Muslims
fail to realize education, population control, and civilized behavior must
be
part of the mix if any religion is to be successful.

God is good! Islam is a Satanic religion. Recall the "Satanic Verses" by
Salman Rushdee? Islamic clerics issued 'fatwahs' on this author because
they feared the truth. To Hell with every last Muslim who agrees in death
to everyone who does not embrace their Satanic faith.

CN


"Lady Pilot" wrote in message
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"Edgar" wrote:

Scotty and Joe should be ashamed of their posts. The plight of this
poor
woman, and thousands of others, bears no relation whatever to that of
people


What an ignorant post! When they refuse help minutes after the disaster,
what can one do?

LP





DSK January 4th 05 03:16 AM

katysails wrote:
Will you get off the whole religion thing here??? These are PEOPLE...it
doesn't matter if they worship salamanders....


Umm, does that mean they can't eat salamanders?


...trolling
religion in the wake of a disaster like this just shows the sheer bottom
that you feed on...


Yep. Unfortunately, religion is not a force for good in most people's
lives, though. It's a way of feeling smugly superior to all others
("you're going to Hell and I'm not, nyah nyah"), a way of justifying
their prejudices, and a rationalization for cruelty & robbery.

Whatever slight positive effect on morality religion might have is due
to fear of punishment, which IMHO is not really anything to brag about.

If you think I'm being overly cynical, notice how the same crowd is
trying to "prove" that the U.S. is donating more than others as though
it were a contest, as though they share in the grace of giving even if
they've not donated one penny themselves.

DSK


Scott Vernon January 4th 05 03:23 AM

"DSK" wrote in message
...
katysails wrote:
Will you get off the whole religion thing here??? These are

PEOPLE...it
doesn't matter if they worship salamanders....


Umm, does that mean they can't eat salamanders?



Only the tails.


....

Yep. Unfortunately, religion is not a force for good in most

people's
lives, though. It's a way of feeling smugly superior to all others
("you're going to Hell and I'm not, nyah nyah"), a way of justifying
their prejudices, and a rationalization for cruelty & robbery.

Whatever slight positive effect on morality religion might have is

due
to fear of punishment, which IMHO is not really anything to brag

about.


Huh? You must be catholic.


SV



Scott Vernon January 4th 05 03:24 AM

"DSK" wrote in message
...
katysails wrote:
Will you get off the whole religion thing here??? These are

PEOPLE...it
doesn't matter if they worship salamanders....


Umm, does that mean they can't eat salamanders?



Only the tails.


....

Yep. Unfortunately, religion is not a force for good in most

people's
lives, though. It's a way of feeling smugly superior to all others
("you're going to Hell and I'm not, nyah nyah"), a way of justifying
their prejudices, and a rationalization for cruelty & robbery.

Whatever slight positive effect on morality religion might have is

due
to fear of punishment, which IMHO is not really anything to brag

about.


Huh? You must be catholic.


SV





Scott Vernon January 4th 05 03:24 AM

"DSK" wrote in message
...
katysails wrote:
Will you get off the whole religion thing here??? These are

PEOPLE...it
doesn't matter if they worship salamanders....


Umm, does that mean they can't eat salamanders?



Only the tails.


....

Yep. Unfortunately, religion is not a force for good in most

people's
lives, though. It's a way of feeling smugly superior to all others
("you're going to Hell and I'm not, nyah nyah"), a way of justifying
their prejudices, and a rationalization for cruelty & robbery.

Whatever slight positive effect on morality religion might have is

due
to fear of punishment, which IMHO is not really anything to brag

about.


Huh? You must be catholic.


SV





bell January 4th 05 04:40 AM

http://www.ffrf.org/


Scott Vernon wrote:
"DSK" wrote in message
...
katysails wrote:
Will you get off the whole religion thing here??? These are
PEOPLE...it doesn't matter if they worship salamanders....


Umm, does that mean they can't eat salamanders?



Only the tails.


...

Yep. Unfortunately, religion is not a force for good in most
people's lives, though. It's a way of feeling smugly superior to
all others ("you're going to Hell and I'm not, nyah nyah"), a way
of justifying their prejudices, and a rationalization for cruelty
& robbery.

Whatever slight positive effect on morality religion might have
is due to fear of punishment, which IMHO is not really anything
to brag about.



Huh? You must be catholic.


SV





Thom Stewart January 4th 05 06:11 AM

Yeah Bell,

Those people making payments on destroyed homes and paying rent. Let's
not forget that they are also paying Taxs to pay for aid to those
victims of the "Wave", While being told the US isn't doing its share!!

Ole Thom


DSK January 4th 05 12:12 PM

Whatever slight positive effect on morality religion might have is
due
to fear of punishment, which IMHO is not really anything to brag

about.


Scott Vernon wrote:
Huh? You must be catholic.


Which type of ethical principle is better:

1- To do the right thing(s) because they are right

2- To do the right thing(s), or at least to avoid doing wrong, because
one is afraid of being caught & punished

???

I may be kind of old fashioned but it seems to me that 1 is superior.

This of course avoids the question of how one determines what is right
and wrong, which is a whole 'nuther debate. Churches tend to discourage
any attempt to seriously examine either of these questions.... or all
questions entirely, which is why the Catholics booted me out ;)

DSK



Scott Vernon January 4th 05 02:00 PM


"DSK" wrote in message
.. .
Whatever slight positive effect on morality religion might have is

due
to fear of punishment, which IMHO is not really anything to brag

about.


Scott Vernon wrote:
Huh? You must be catholic.


Which type of ethical principle is better:

1- To do the right thing(s) because they are right

2- To do the right thing(s), or at least to avoid doing wrong,

because
one is afraid of being caught & punished

???

I may be kind of old fashioned but it seems to me that 1 is

superior.

This of course avoids the question of how one determines what is

right
and wrong, which is a whole 'nuther debate. Churches tend to

discourage
any attempt to seriously examine either of these questions.... or

all
questions entirely, which is why the Catholics booted me out ;)



AHA ! I knew it! You're ex catholic. So is my wife. She left while
young, but still remembers the screwed up views. Our church is all
about love , giving, sharing, human kindness, etc..

Scotty





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