On 24 Dec 2004 14:11:59 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote this
crap:

You need a spark to set the fluid on fire.

horvath, diesel engines have no spark, yet a diesel engine sets the "fluid"on
fire every power stroke of every cylinder. It is the temperature you need, not
the spark.

Diesels use fuel injectors to vaporize the fuel, and very high
pressure to ignite it. yer not going to get that combination in your
engine compartment.





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"Horvath" wrote
Diesels use fuel injectors to vaporize the fuel, and very high
pressure to ignite it. yer not going to get that combination in your
engine compartment.

pretty close.
the injectors only atomize the fuel - heat of compression vaporizes and
ignites.
Scout

horvath, you wish to check of the ignition temp of diesel fuel, not to mention
engine oil and other things found in an engine room. then you might wish to
check the meaning of the term "ignition temperature".

keep up, Forrest.

From: Horvath
Date: 12/24/2004 3:12 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id:

On 24 Dec 2004 14:11:59 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote this
crap:

You need a spark to set the fluid on fire.

horvath, diesel engines have no spark, yet a diesel engine sets the
"fluid"on
fire every power stroke of every cylinder. It is the temperature you need,
not
the spark.

Diesels use fuel injectors to vaporize the fuel, and very high
pressure to ignite it. yer not going to get that combination in your
engine compartment.





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"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On 24 Dec 2004 14:11:59 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote this
crap:

You need a spark to set the fluid on fire.

horvath, diesel engines have no spark, yet a diesel engine sets the
"fluid"on
fire every power stroke of every cylinder. It is the temperature
you need, not
the spark.

Diesels use fuel injectors to vaporize the fuel, and very high
pressure to ignite it. yer not going to get that combination in
your
engine compartment.


Wrong!

On 24 Dec 2004 20:55:32 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote this
crap:

horvath, you wish to check of the ignition temp of diesel fuel, not to mention
engine oil and other things found in an engine room. then you might wish to
check the meaning of the term "ignition temperature".



Report presents the results of a study of variations in ignition lag
and combustion associated with changes in air temperature and density
for a diesel fuel in a constant-volume bomb. The test results have
been discussed in terms of engine performance wherever comparisons
could be drawn. The most important conclusions drawn from this
investigation a the ignition lag was essentially independent of the
injected fuel quantity. Extrapolation of the curves for the fuel used
shows that the lag could not be greatly decreased by exceeding the
compression-ignition engines. In order to obtain the best combustion
and thermal efficiency, it was desirable to use the longest ignition
lag consistent with a permissible rate of pressure rise.


Flash Point

The flash point temperature of diesel fuel is the minimum temperature
at which the fuel will ignite (flash) on application of an ignition
source under specified conditions. Flash point varies inversely with
the fuel’s volatility. Flash point minimum temperatures are required
for proper safety and handling of diesel fuel. Due to its higher flash
point temperature, diesel fuel is inherently safer than many other
fuels such as gasoline.




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Forget it Horvath, Jaxass is an idiot.

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"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On 24 Dec 2004 20:55:32 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote this
crap:

horvath, you wish to check of the ignition temp of diesel fuel, not to
mention
engine oil and other things found in an engine room. then you might wish
to
check the meaning of the term "ignition temperature".



Report presents the results of a study of variations in ignition lag
and combustion associated with changes in air temperature and density
for a diesel fuel in a constant-volume bomb. The test results have
been discussed in terms of engine performance wherever comparisons
could be drawn. The most important conclusions drawn from this
investigation a the ignition lag was essentially independent of the
injected fuel quantity. Extrapolation of the curves for the fuel used
shows that the lag could not be greatly decreased by exceeding the
compression-ignition engines. In order to obtain the best combustion
and thermal efficiency, it was desirable to use the longest ignition
lag consistent with a permissible rate of pressure rise.


Flash Point

The flash point temperature of diesel fuel is the minimum temperature
at which the fuel will ignite (flash) on application of an ignition
source under specified conditions. Flash point varies inversely with
the fuel's volatility. Flash point minimum temperatures are required
for proper safety and handling of diesel fuel. Due to its higher flash
point temperature, diesel fuel is inherently safer than many other
fuels such as gasoline.




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horvath, you seem to have no clew what you are reading. **IF** you did, you
would notice that diesel fuel vapor at or above its ignition temperature will,
no frickin' squat, ignite. duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh.

what the hell have you been since the early 13th century, dood.

From: Horvath
Date: 12/24/2004 9:38 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id:

On 24 Dec 2004 20:55:32 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote this
crap:

horvath, you wish to check of the ignition temp of diesel fuel, not to
mention
engine oil and other things found in an engine room. then you might wish to
check the meaning of the term "ignition temperature".



Report presents the results of a study of variations in ignition lag
and combustion associated with changes in air temperature and density
for a diesel fuel in a constant-volume bomb. The test results have
been discussed in terms of engine performance wherever comparisons
could be drawn. The most important conclusions drawn from this
investigation a the ignition lag was essentially independent of the
injected fuel quantity. Extrapolation of the curves for the fuel used
shows that the lag could not be greatly decreased by exceeding the
compression-ignition engines. In order to obtain the best combustion
and thermal efficiency, it was desirable to use the longest ignition
lag consistent with a permissible rate of pressure rise.


Flash Point

The flash point temperature of diesel fuel is the minimum temperature
at which the fuel will ignite (flash) on application of an ignition
source under specified conditions. Flash point varies inversely with
the fuel’s volatility. Flash point minimum temperatures are required
for proper safety and handling of diesel fuel. Due to its higher flash
point temperature, diesel fuel is inherently safer than many other
fuels such as gasoline.




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hey fagot, *plainly* YOU do _NOT_ understand the discussion. go play with your
inflatable boy.

From: "JG" lid
Date: 12/25/2004 1:16 AM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id:

Forget it Horvath, Jaxass is an idiot.

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"Horvath" wrote in message
.. .
On 24 Dec 2004 20:55:32 GMT, (JAXAshby) wrote this
crap:

horvath, you wish to check of the ignition temp of diesel fuel, not to
mention
engine oil and other things found in an engine room. then you might wish
to
check the meaning of the term "ignition temperature".



Report presents the results of a study of variations in ignition lag
and combustion associated with changes in air temperature and density
for a diesel fuel in a constant-volume bomb. The test results have
been discussed in terms of engine performance wherever comparisons
could be drawn. The most important conclusions drawn from this
investigation a the ignition lag was essentially independent of the
injected fuel quantity. Extrapolation of the curves for the fuel used
shows that the lag could not be greatly decreased by exceeding the
compression-ignition engines. In order to obtain the best combustion
and thermal efficiency, it was desirable to use the longest ignition
lag consistent with a permissible rate of pressure rise.


Flash Point

The flash point temperature of diesel fuel is the minimum temperature
at which the fuel will ignite (flash) on application of an ignition
source under specified conditions. Flash point varies inversely with
the fuel's volatility. Flash point minimum temperatures are required
for proper safety and handling of diesel fuel. Due to its higher flash
point temperature, diesel fuel is inherently safer than many other
fuels such as gasoline.




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"Horvath" wrote
Flash Point
The flash point temperature of diesel fuel is the minimum temperature
at which the fuel will ignite (flash) on application of an ignition
source under specified conditions. Flash point varies inversely with
the fuel's volatility. Flash point minimum temperatures are required
for proper safety and handling of diesel fuel. Due to its higher flash
point temperature, diesel fuel is inherently safer than many other
fuels such as gasoline.

Diesel is an inherently safer fuel only because its flash point in
significantly lower than that of gasoline. I've watch a (idiot!) diesel tank
driver throw a lighted match into a 7000 gallon tank of #2 fuel to prove
that in a discussion. I don't recommend that, however.
The flash point of #2 fuel (diesel) is 110 deg Fahr, significantly higher
than that of gasoline (- 45 deg Fahr), which is right around the boiling
points of R-22 and Propane! Gasoline is more volatile, but once past its
flash point, diesel packs more punch (more btu content).
I think part of the explanation for diesel fires is that people become
complacent due to diesel's initial forgiveness factor. Let's not forget that
it was a fuel characteristically close to diesel that took down the towers
on 911.
Scout

typo - I meant to say, "diesel's flash point is HIGHER!"
Hey, it's only 4:42 AM here!
and it's Christmas, Merry Christmas!

Diesel is an inherently safer fuel only because its flash point in
significantly lower than that of gasoline.