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Whether man or woman don't insult whomever it may be by
comparing them to Gaynz, please. CN "Donal" wrote in message ... "Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ... Oh oh! Maybe BinaryBill is right about your being a man. A woman would surely ask for an actress role, not an actor's role. I have a sick feeling in the pit of my stomach. LP = JG??? Regards Donal -- |
You have a Guild card?
"Lady Pilot" wrote in message news:0dRxd.19401$F25.9969@okepread07... "Joe" wrote I was going to get Bob a directing job fiming the flick version but after his dis'n me as bb Im not so sure. Let me know if you ever get the movie project off the ground. I have a friend that might be interested. He was co-Producer on the Godfather III. He's back home now in OKC. Last time we had dinner together he was working on a movie about Wiley Post and was needing technical advise on stunt pilots, etc. http://theoscarsite.com/whoswho5/frederickson_g.htm Of course for my help, you will have to get me an actor's role in the movie. :-) LP |
"katysails" wrote in message Well duh...who can afford all that diesel? A single engine trawler, such as a Nordhavn 43 running at 8 kts., is relatively economical to operate compared with, say, a semi-displacement trawler, such as a Grand Banks 42 with twin 3208 Cats running at 14kts. Then again I buy roughly $40 of diesel per annum. Max |
"Scout" wrote in message "Maxprop" wrote in message "Scout" wrote in message Hi Thom, Berks County (not too far from Scotty); still teaching; I teach in Montgomery County, never taught at Truman (I graduated from there though, before it was called Truman). Harry S. or Capote? whichever one dropped those bombs Ah, that would be Truman Capote. Max |
right....I think we spent $25.00 last season....pump outs were a bit more,
though...too bad you can't harvest the methane from a holding tank straight into the diesel system and run on your own power...just think, Neal could circumnavigate with one week's worth... "Maxprop" wrote in message nk.net... "katysails" wrote in message Well duh...who can afford all that diesel? A single engine trawler, such as a Nordhavn 43 running at 8 kts., is relatively economical to operate compared with, say, a semi-displacement trawler, such as a Grand Banks 42 with twin 3208 Cats running at 14kts. Then again I buy roughly $40 of diesel per annum. Max |
He dropped a lot of bombs...
"Maxprop" wrote in message nk.net... "Scout" wrote in message "Maxprop" wrote in message "Scout" wrote in message Hi Thom, Berks County (not too far from Scotty); still teaching; I teach in Montgomery County, never taught at Truman (I graduated from there though, before it was called Truman). Harry S. or Capote? whichever one dropped those bombs Ah, that would be Truman Capote. Max |
"katysails" wrote in message If we were aboard, the dinghy would have been floating off the back...we might have rowed in to go to the store or something...too bad...next time give us a holler....you guys are always welcome... We couldn't tell if there was a dink on the opposite side of the boat. As I mentioned we were pretty far off and too lazy (or too polite) to get out the binocs and spy on y'all. We figured if someone peeked up through the companionway we'd row over and say hi. No one showed, so perhaps you guys had gone ashore for something. Perhaps the most telling thing was that Nik didn't bark, and she always barks if she senses a dog anywhere within a mile when on the water. Max |
"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message I'd have to bring my own boat. Sailing in a storm on an inferior French boat would frighten me to death . . . No fan of the Frogs, I have to admit they build some pretty nice boats. Nothing like the Americans, Canadians, Brits, Fins, or Swedes, mind you, but good vessels nonetheless. Max |
"katysails" wrote in message Why, we'd even let you stay down in the quarter berth with Choppie....he'd like some company Mmmm, not a good idea, Katy. Even Chopper has standards. g Max |
"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
... I'm not manly enough to be a dyke. Hey, you said it.... |
you do realize of course that Capote was Scout's childhood friend, portrayed
as Dill in 'to kill a mockingbird'? co-ink-a-dink? Scout "Maxprop" wrote in message nk.net... "Scout" wrote in message "Maxprop" wrote in message "Scout" wrote in message Hi Thom, Berks County (not too far from Scotty); still teaching; I teach in Montgomery County, never taught at Truman (I graduated from there though, before it was called Truman). Harry S. or Capote? whichever one dropped those bombs Ah, that would be Truman Capote. Max |
yes; there are Woodrow Wilson High Schools all over the place.
Scout "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... I suppose this is a different 'Wilson " than the one in Berks Co.? Scotty "Scout" wrote in message ... "Thom Stewart" wrote in message ... My son graduaed from there, when it was Wilson. 1969 ot I didn't realize you had roots here Thom. I graduated Wilson in 74. Small world. Scout |
Then we surely must have gone ashore for something...
"Maxprop" wrote in message nk.net... "katysails" wrote in message If we were aboard, the dinghy would have been floating off the back...we might have rowed in to go to the store or something...too bad...next time give us a holler....you guys are always welcome... We couldn't tell if there was a dink on the opposite side of the boat. As I mentioned we were pretty far off and too lazy (or too polite) to get out the binocs and spy on y'all. We figured if someone peeked up through the companionway we'd row over and say hi. No one showed, so perhaps you guys had gone ashore for something. Perhaps the most telling thing was that Nik didn't bark, and she always barks if she senses a dog anywhere within a mile when on the water. Max |
Well duh...who can afford all that diesel?
Maxprop wrote: A single engine trawler, such as a Nordhavn 43 running at 8 kts., is relatively economical to operate compared with, say, a semi-displacement trawler, such as a Grand Banks 42 with twin 3208 Cats running at 14kts. Then again I buy roughly $40 of diesel per annum. Well, if you doubled... or quadrupled... that, would it be a major expense factor? You'd have to cruise at least half time or more (depending on the boat, I don't think of Nordhavens as particularly fuel-efficient) to spend on fuel what you already spend on insurance and taxes. Add in a full-time slip, and fuel becomes almost trivial. I can tell you this- for what sails & running rigging cost, I can cruise a long long way in our trawler. We've spent approx $150 on fuel this year, making 2 cruises of 300+ miles plus going out almost every weekend, and we've still got more than 1/2 full tanks... which is good, because now we're running the heater almost full time... Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
"Maxprop" wrote Then again I buy roughly $40 of diesel per annum. I bought $21,000 worth last year. Sc otty |
"JG" wrote in message What's the matter Max, getting upset again? Don't ascribe your emotions to those of other posters. You're not capable of making me upset. Bored, perhaps, but not angry. Max |
"Scout" wrote in message yes; there are Woodrow Wilson High Schools all over the place. Scout Oh, that's what *Wilson* they were named after. I was almost positive it was Tim The-tool-man Taylor's next door neighbor after whom they were named. Max |
"DSK" wrote in message Well duh...who can afford all that diesel? Maxprop wrote: A single engine trawler, such as a Nordhavn 43 running at 8 kts., is relatively economical to operate compared with, say, a semi-displacement trawler, such as a Grand Banks 42 with twin 3208 Cats running at 14kts. Then again I buy roughly $40 of diesel per annum. Well, if you doubled... or quadrupled... that, would it be a major expense factor? No, but $160 won't take you far in even a 35' CWB with a single Ford Lehman 135. We didn't cruise much this past year--no time and ****ty weather--but still logged around 400 miles, mostly under power. The CWB would have racked up a $250 diesel bill with the same distance at 8 kts. My friend's 35 CWB with twin 125 Lehmans burns about half a gallon per mile, and another friend with a similar wood trawler with a single 135 Lehman burns about 1/4 gallon per mile. My boat gets about 8-10 miles per gallon, depending upon wind and if assisted by sail. You'd have to cruise at least half time or more (depending on the boat, I don't think of Nordhavens as particularly fuel-efficient) to spend on fuel what you already spend on insurance and taxes. Add in a full-time slip, and fuel becomes almost trivial. Insurance: approx. $400 for my 34' Sea Sprite, taxes: approx. $60 per year, not including fuel taxes or sales tax. Grand total of $500, including fuel expense. If I cruised half the time, I'd have well over 2000 miles in the trawler, and no trawler I'm familiar with can travel that distance on $500. More like $1250. And why aren't Nordhavn's fuel efficient? A Nordhavn 40 with a 140 Lugger or a 101 John Deere and 920 gallons of diesel can cross the Atlantic, or travel roughly 2750 miles without refueling. Try that in a Grand Banks with a pair of 3208s, not that GBs are offshore boats by any stretch. I can tell you this- for what sails & running rigging cost, I can cruise a long long way in our trawler. This is a typical obfuscation of the argument when powerboaters attempt to compare costs with sailors. No one denies that both types of boats have expenses, albeit quite different ones. The net costs typically average out between the two types of boats of similar length and displacement. It's *pay me now or pay me later.* But we were discussing fuel costs. Period. And it wasn't my intent to denigrate powerboats or trawlers. We've spent approx $150 on fuel this year, making 2 cruises of 300+ miles plus going out almost every weekend, and we've still got more than 1/2 full tanks... which is good, because now we're running the heater almost full time... What type of boat do you have? What power? Sounds quite economical, unless you only run at 6 or so knots. Max |
"Scott Vernon" wrote in message "Maxprop" wrote Then again I buy roughly $40 of diesel per annum. I bought $21,000 worth last year. You really need to repower, Scoot. That 10,000 shp turbine is gonna bankrupt you one o' these days. Max |
OzOne wrote in message On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 05:05:47 GMT, "Maxprop" scribbled thusly: "Capt. Neal®" wrote in message I'd have to bring my own boat. Sailing in a storm on an inferior French boat would frighten me to death . . . No fan of the Frogs, I have to admit they build some pretty nice boats. Nothing like the Americans, Canadians, Brits, Fins, or Swedes, mind you, but good vessels nonetheless. Max That's got to be among the most ridiculous statements ever made here. Dufour is one of the most respected names in yachting, as is Wauquiez, Lagoon,Wanda,Multiplast, and yes, even Kirie and Jeanneau! Of those you list, Henri Wauquiez is far and away the best builder. Dufour, Lagoon, and the others are Beneteau/Jeanneau-quality boats. Michael Dufour, for example, markets boats here on the same price points as Beneteau and Jeanneau. That said, HW can't touch Henry Hinckley, Tom Morris, Shannon, Pacific Seacraft, Kanter, Oyster, Moody, Nautor, Baltic, or Hallberg Rassey in terms of construction quality, design, or longevity. Nothing ridiculous about it. The frog boats aren't bad, but not up to the standards of the ones I named. And you know it. Max |
Beneteau! You forgot to mention the Kia of sailboats.
CN OzOne wrote in message ... On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:31:30 +1100, OzOne scribbled thusly: No fan of the Frogs, I have to admit they build some pretty nice boats. Nothing like the Americans, Canadians, Brits, Fins, or Swedes, mind you, but good vessels nonetheless. Max That's got to be among the most ridiculous statements ever made here. Dufour is one of the most respected names in yachting, as is Wauquiez, Lagoon,Wanda,Multiplast, and yes, even Kirie and Jeanneau! Oh, and I forgot Fountaine Pajot! Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. |
Compared to your Yugo that is....
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Capt. Neal®" wrote in message ... Beneteau! You forgot to mention the Kia of sailboats. CN OzOne wrote in message ... On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 16:31:30 +1100, OzOne scribbled thusly: No fan of the Frogs, I have to admit they build some pretty nice boats. Nothing like the Americans, Canadians, Brits, Fins, or Swedes, mind you, but good vessels nonetheless. Max That's got to be among the most ridiculous statements ever made here. Dufour is one of the most respected names in yachting, as is Wauquiez, Lagoon,Wanda,Multiplast, and yes, even Kirie and Jeanneau! Oh, and I forgot Fountaine Pajot! Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you. |
Yup, you're clearly very upset with me. Why's that?
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Maxprop" wrote in message ink.net... "JG" wrote in message What's the matter Max, getting upset again? Don't ascribe your emotions to those of other posters. You're not capable of making me upset. Bored, perhaps, but not angry. Max |
There are lots of Jr. Highs named the same also... I went to one of those.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Scout" wrote in message ... yes; there are Woodrow Wilson High Schools all over the place. Scout "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... I suppose this is a different 'Wilson " than the one in Berks Co.? Scotty "Scout" wrote in message ... "Thom Stewart" wrote in message ... My son graduaed from there, when it was Wilson. 1969 ot I didn't realize you had roots here Thom. I graduated Wilson in 74. Small world. Scout |
"Maxprop" wrote No, but $160 won't take you far in even a 35' CWB with a single Ford Lehman 135. We didn't cruise much this past year--no time and ****ty weather--but still logged around 400 miles, mostly under power. 400 miles? I put that on in one trip, and I was sailing 98% of the time. Scotty |
well he has passed on, that makes him as eligible as Woodrow.
Scout "Maxprop" wrote in message nk.net... "Scout" wrote in message yes; there are Woodrow Wilson High Schools all over the place. Scout Oh, that's what *Wilson* they were named after. I was almost positive it was Tim The-tool-man Taylor's next door neighbor after whom they were named. Max |
yeah, not sure why he rates so high.
Scout "JG" wrote in message ... There are lots of Jr. Highs named the same also... I went to one of those. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Scout" wrote in message ... yes; there are Woodrow Wilson High Schools all over the place. Scout "Scott Vernon" wrote in message ... I suppose this is a different 'Wilson " than the one in Berks Co.? Scotty "Scout" wrote in message ... "Thom Stewart" wrote in message ... My son graduaed from there, when it was Wilson. 1969 ot I didn't realize you had roots here Thom. I graduated Wilson in 74. Small world. Scout |
Doug,
I'm not one to put down people for having trawlers..i think they're nice and have their place...but i can't imagine just taking the trawler out for an afternoon spin...noisy....just not my thing... "DSK" wrote in message ... Well duh...who can afford all that diesel? Maxprop wrote: A single engine trawler, such as a Nordhavn 43 running at 8 kts., is relatively economical to operate compared with, say, a semi-displacement trawler, such as a Grand Banks 42 with twin 3208 Cats running at 14kts. Then again I buy roughly $40 of diesel per annum. Well, if you doubled... or quadrupled... that, would it be a major expense factor? You'd have to cruise at least half time or more (depending on the boat, I don't think of Nordhavens as particularly fuel-efficient) to spend on fuel what you already spend on insurance and taxes. Add in a full-time slip, and fuel becomes almost trivial. I can tell you this- for what sails & running rigging cost, I can cruise a long long way in our trawler. We've spent approx $150 on fuel this year, making 2 cruises of 300+ miles plus going out almost every weekend, and we've still got more than 1/2 full tanks... which is good, because now we're running the heater almost full time... Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
Well, if you doubled... or quadrupled... that, would it be a major expense
factor? Maxprop wrote: No, but $160 won't take you far in even a 35' CWB with a single Ford Lehman 135. It will if the bottoms's clean, engine in good shape, and you know how to drive. ... We didn't cruise much this past year--no time and ****ty weather--but still logged around 400 miles, mostly under power. The CWB would have racked up a $250 diesel bill with the same distance at 8 kts. Well, that's part of the problem. Going 8 knots is wasteful. At 7 knots the fuel burn is about half, at 6 1/2 it's less than a quarter. ... My friend's 35 CWB with twin 125 Lehmans burns about half a gallon per mile, and another friend with a similar wood trawler with a single 135 Lehman burns about 1/4 gallon per mile. That's still about twice what we burn. ... My boat gets about 8-10 miles per gallon, depending upon wind and if assisted by sail. Well, obviously sails don't burn fuel, but they are expensive and have a limited life span. You could, if you were diligent, figure out how many miles/$ you got out of sails, but you'd probably prefer to not know. You'd have to cruise at least half time or more (depending on the boat, I don't think of Nordhavens as particularly fuel-efficient) to spend on fuel what you already spend on insurance and taxes. Add in a full-time slip, and fuel becomes almost trivial. Insurance: approx. $400 for my 34' Sea Sprite, taxes: approx. $60 per year, not including fuel taxes or sales tax. Grand total of $500, including fuel expense. If I cruised half the time, I'd have well over 2000 miles in the trawler, and no trawler I'm familiar with can travel that distance on $500. More like $1250. Only if wasteful. I'd expect to burn half that. Part of it is that with good fuel capacity, shallow draft, and patience, you can buy at the cheapest places. For example, our last fuel buy was late summer and $1.20/gal ... And why aren't Nordhavn's fuel efficient? They're too beamy and they're dragging an extra prop through the water. ... A Nordhavn 40 with a 140 Lugger Which is about twice the power it'll ever realistically need. or a 101 John Deere and 920 gallons of diesel can cross the Atlantic, or travel roughly 2750 miles without refueling. That's still not even 3 miles per gallon. ... Try that in a Grand Banks with a pair of 3208s, not that GBs are offshore boats by any stretch. No twin is fuel efficient, but that's not the point. Twins are supposed to be fast. I can tell you this- for what sails & running rigging cost, I can cruise a long long way in our trawler. This is a typical obfuscation of the argument when powerboaters attempt to compare costs with sailors. No one denies that both types of boats have expenses, albeit quite different ones. The net costs typically average out between the two types of boats of similar length and displacement. It's *pay me now or pay me later.* But we were discussing fuel costs. Period. Right And it's my point that fuel simply isn't that great an expense, compared with all the other costs of having & keeping & maintaining the boat. And it wasn't my intent to denigrate powerboats or trawlers. I didn't think you were, just making a point. We've spent approx $150 on fuel this year, making 2 cruises of 300+ miles plus going out almost every weekend, and we've still got more than 1/2 full tanks... which is good, because now we're running the heater almost full time... What type of boat do you have? http://community.webshots.com/album/63279185YQtgSA 1984 Sundowner 36 ... What power? Ford Lehman 135 with 2100 hrs, barely broken in. Again, twice as much power as needed, but it has a nice prop. ... Sounds quite economical, unless you only run at 6 or so knots. So? Do you always sail faster than 6 knots? We generally go 7 to 7 1/2 and burn from somewhat less than 1 to 1 1/2 gph. At 6 kt we burn about 1/2 gph. If I slow down to idle, the boat goes 4 1/2 and the engine actually pulls in hyrdocarbons from the air, converts it to diesel fuel, and pumps it into the tanks ;) Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
That is because you are a discerning woman who appreciates the finer
things in life. A noisy smelly diesel engine on a slow boat is not one of them eh? Cheers katysails wrote: Doug, I'm not one to put down people for having trawlers..i think they're nice and have their place...but i can't imagine just taking the trawler out for an afternoon spin...noisy....just not my thing... "DSK" wrote in message ... Well duh...who can afford all that diesel? Maxprop wrote: A single engine trawler, such as a Nordhavn 43 running at 8 kts., is relatively economical to operate compared with, say, a semi-displacement trawler, such as a Grand Banks 42 with twin 3208 Cats running at 14kts. Then again I buy roughly $40 of diesel per annum. Well, if you doubled... or quadrupled... that, would it be a major expense factor? You'd have to cruise at least half time or more (depending on the boat, I don't think of Nordhavens as particularly fuel-efficient) to spend on fuel what you already spend on insurance and taxes. Add in a full-time slip, and fuel becomes almost trivial. I can tell you this- for what sails & running rigging cost, I can cruise a long long way in our trawler. We've spent approx $150 on fuel this year, making 2 cruises of 300+ miles plus going out almost every weekend, and we've still got more than 1/2 full tanks... which is good, because now we're running the heater almost full time... Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
DSK wrote: Well, if you doubled... or quadrupled... that, would it be a major expense factor? Maxprop wrote: No, but $160 won't take you far in even a 35' CWB with a single Ford Lehman 135. It will if the bottoms's clean, engine in good shape, and you know how to drive. ... We didn't cruise much this past year--no time and ****ty weather--but still logged around 400 miles, mostly under power. The CWB would have racked up a $250 diesel bill with the same distance at 8 kts. Well, that's part of the problem. Going 8 knots is wasteful. At 7 knots the fuel burn is about half, at 6 1/2 it's less than a quarter. Ella can go at 8 knots with nothing more than a fair breeze. Cheers ------------ And now a word from our sponsor ------------------ For a quality usenet news server, try DNEWS, easy to install, fast, efficient and reliable. For home servers or carrier class installations with millions of users it will allow you to grow! ---- See http://netwinsite.com/sponsor/sponsor_dnews.htm ---- |
katysails wrote:
Doug, I'm not one to put down people for having trawlers..i think they're nice and have their place...but i can't imagine just taking the trawler out for an afternoon spin...noisy....just not my thing... It's not noisy, the engine room is very well insulated. At our normal running speed, you can tell it's running, but you can also hear a whisper. Throttling up increases the volume obviously, but it's also wasteful as it primarily makes more wake. The boat will only go about 8 1/4 which is hardly thrilling, so why push it. It's fun but it's a different kind of fun than sailing. We enjoy exploring creeks & lagoons that sailboats can't get into. We also enjoy going out on cold and/or rainy days when sailing is miserable but the river is still there to be enjoyed. The upper deck gives a perspective that you don't see from the deck of a sailboat. Inside the pilothouse you can see wildlife but they can't see you and it seems the boat itself doesn't threaten them as much. I have enjoyed tugboating more than I thought I would, it has been a hoot cruising and just riding around. I need to seek the mental adjustment for enjoyment of working on it, though. Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
Like I said, I'm not going to run down anyone;'s boat...I know people who
have chartered trawler's and had a great time, but it'sust not for me. I'm always quite thankful when we make iot throught he channel to lake Michigan and can turn the blasted thing off.... "Nav" wrote in message ... That is because you are a discerning woman who appreciates the finer things in life. A noisy smelly diesel engine on a slow boat is not one of them eh? Cheers katysails wrote: Doug, I'm not one to put down people for having trawlers..i think they're nice and have their place...but i can't imagine just taking the trawler out for an afternoon spin...noisy....just not my thing... "DSK" wrote in message ... Well duh...who can afford all that diesel? Maxprop wrote: A single engine trawler, such as a Nordhavn 43 running at 8 kts., is relatively economical to operate compared with, say, a semi-displacement trawler, such as a Grand Banks 42 with twin 3208 Cats running at 14kts. Then again I buy roughly $40 of diesel per annum. Well, if you doubled... or quadrupled... that, would it be a major expense factor? You'd have to cruise at least half time or more (depending on the boat, I don't think of Nordhavens as particularly fuel-efficient) to spend on fuel what you already spend on insurance and taxes. Add in a full-time slip, and fuel becomes almost trivial. I can tell you this- for what sails & running rigging cost, I can cruise a long long way in our trawler. We've spent approx $150 on fuel this year, making 2 cruises of 300+ miles plus going out almost every weekend, and we've still got more than 1/2 full tanks... which is good, because now we're running the heater almost full time... Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
What's with the advertisement at the bottom of your posts? They paying you
for that? "Nav" wrote in message ... DSK wrote: Well, if you doubled... or quadrupled... that, would it be a major expense factor? Maxprop wrote: No, but $160 won't take you far in even a 35' CWB with a single Ford Lehman 135. It will if the bottoms's clean, engine in good shape, and you know how to drive. ... We didn't cruise much this past year--no time and ****ty weather--but still logged around 400 miles, mostly under power. The CWB would have racked up a $250 diesel bill with the same distance at 8 kts. Well, that's part of the problem. Going 8 knots is wasteful. At 7 knots the fuel burn is about half, at 6 1/2 it's less than a quarter. Ella can go at 8 knots with nothing more than a fair breeze. Cheers ------------ And now a word from our sponsor ------------------ For a quality usenet news server, try DNEWS, easy to install, fast, efficient and reliable. For home servers or carrier class installations with millions of users it will allow you to grow! ---- See http://netwinsite.com/sponsor/sponsor_dnews.htm ---- |
So you enjoy that wildlife which you proceed to pollute out of
existence? You, sir, are totally selfish and irresponsible with your pollution machine. You disgust me. CN "DSK" wrote in message ... katysails wrote: Doug, I'm not one to put down people for having trawlers..i think they're nice and have their place...but i can't imagine just taking the trawler out for an afternoon spin...noisy....just not my thing... It's not noisy, the engine room is very well insulated. At our normal running speed, you can tell it's running, but you can also hear a whisper. Throttling up increases the volume obviously, but it's also wasteful as it primarily makes more wake. The boat will only go about 8 1/4 which is hardly thrilling, so why push it. It's fun but it's a different kind of fun than sailing. We enjoy exploring creeks & lagoons that sailboats can't get into. We also enjoy going out on cold and/or rainy days when sailing is miserable but the river is still there to be enjoyed. The upper deck gives a perspective that you don't see from the deck of a sailboat. Inside the pilothouse you can see wildlife but they can't see you and it seems the boat itself doesn't threaten them as much. I have enjoyed tugboating more than I thought I would, it has been a hoot cruising and just riding around. I need to seek the mental adjustment for enjoyment of working on it, though. Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
"Scout" wrote in message ... I've been in many very old homes. In general, they're beautiful but too inefficiency for my liking. I like the modern building materials, waterproofed basements, tall basements, superior electrical and plumbing systems, and so forth. We have running water too! We even have electricity in most of the rooms. Furthermore, I'll have a real fire burning on Christmas day! I think that we'll start with logs (from our garden), and later we'll use coal. Regards Donal -- |
Put there by your news server I think.
Cheers katysails wrote: What's with the advertisement at the bottom of your posts? They paying you for that? "Nav" wrote in message ... DSK wrote: Well, if you doubled... or quadrupled... that, would it be a major expense factor? Maxprop wrote: No, but $160 won't take you far in even a 35' CWB with a single Ford Lehman 135. It will if the bottoms's clean, engine in good shape, and you know how to drive. ... We didn't cruise much this past year--no time and ****ty weather--but still logged around 400 miles, mostly under power. The CWB would have racked up a $250 diesel bill with the same distance at 8 kts. Well, that's part of the problem. Going 8 knots is wasteful. At 7 knots the fuel burn is about half, at 6 1/2 it's less than a quarter. Ella can go at 8 knots with nothing more than a fair breeze. Cheers ------------ And now a word from our sponsor ------------------ For a quality usenet news server, try DNEWS, easy to install, fast, efficient and reliable. For home servers or carrier class installations with millions of users it will allow you to grow! ---- See http://netwinsite.com/sponsor/sponsor_dnews.htm ---- |
not mine....I use the att server...have no idea what the DN server is...
"Nav" wrote in message ... Put there by your news server I think. Cheers katysails wrote: What's with the advertisement at the bottom of your posts? They paying you for that? "Nav" wrote in message ... DSK wrote: Well, if you doubled... or quadrupled... that, would it be a major expense factor? Maxprop wrote: No, but $160 won't take you far in even a 35' CWB with a single Ford Lehman 135. It will if the bottoms's clean, engine in good shape, and you know how to drive. ... We didn't cruise much this past year--no time and ****ty weather--but still logged around 400 miles, mostly under power. The CWB would have racked up a $250 diesel bill with the same distance at 8 kts. Well, that's part of the problem. Going 8 knots is wasteful. At 7 knots the fuel burn is about half, at 6 1/2 it's less than a quarter. Ella can go at 8 knots with nothing more than a fair breeze. Cheers ------------ And now a word from our sponsor ------------------ For a quality usenet news server, try DNEWS, easy to install, fast, efficient and reliable. For home servers or carrier class installations with millions of users it will allow you to grow! ---- See http://netwinsite.com/sponsor/sponsor_dnews.htm ---- |
On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 23:53:45 -0000, "Donal"
wrote this crap: We have running water too! We even have electricity in most of the rooms. Such looxury! I have to go out to the well for water. And I need to get batteries if'n I wants lectrissity. Furthermore, I'll have a real fire burning on Christmas day! I think that we'll start with logs (from our garden), and later we'll use coal. I have a screen saver that looks like a fireplace. Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
WGN in Chicago is supposedly going to show a picture of a burning log in a
fireplace on Christmas Eve with carols playing in the background...think I'll just throw a real log on in one fireplace and turn the gas logs on in the other and turn up the CD player... "Horvath" wrote in message ... On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 23:53:45 -0000, "Donal" wrote this crap: We have running water too! We even have electricity in most of the rooms. Such looxury! I have to go out to the well for water. And I need to get batteries if'n I wants lectrissity. Furthermore, I'll have a real fire burning on Christmas day! I think that we'll start with logs (from our garden), and later we'll use coal. I have a screen saver that looks like a fireplace. Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now! |
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