"Donal" wrote in message ...

"Bart Senior" wrote in message
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hen two power-driven vessels are crossing, which
vessel has the right of way?

A. The vessel which is to starboard of the other vessel.
B. The vessel which is to port of the other vessel.
C. The larger vessel.
D. The vessel that sounds the first whistle signal.
E. Neither.


E.

Wrong! A vessel that has another on its own starboard bow
is the give-way vessel. It follows that the other vessel has
the right of way. It's right of way makes it the stand-on
vessel.

I can't figure what's so hard for some people to understand
about this.

I always sit in my motor dinghy straddling the center thwart
and looking primarily to starboard. I do this so I can give-way
to vessels that are on a crossing course and are on my starboard
bow. This tells me that vessel has the right of way. In other it's
way shall not be impeded by me.

I hope this helps.

CN

CN

Capt. Neal® wrote:



Wrong! A vessel that has another on its own starboard bow
is the give-way vessel. It follows that the other vessel has
the right of way. It's right of way makes it the stand-on
vessel.

I can't figure what's so hard for some people to understand
about this.

I always sit in my motor dinghy straddling the center thwart
and looking primarily to starboard. I do this so I can give-way
to vessels that are on a crossing course and are on my starboard
bow. This tells me that vessel has the right of way. In other it's
way shall not be impeded by me.

I hope this helps.

I think you'll find that Donal is objecting to the phrase "right of way".

otn

"otnmbrd" wrote in message ink.net...
Capt. Neal® wrote:



Wrong! A vessel that has another on its own starboard bow
is the give-way vessel. It follows that the other vessel has
the right of way. It's right of way makes it the stand-on
vessel.

I can't figure what's so hard for some people to understand
about this.

I always sit in my motor dinghy straddling the center thwart
and looking primarily to starboard. I do this so I can give-way
to vessels that are on a crossing course and are on my starboard
bow. This tells me that vessel has the right of way. In other it's
way shall not be impeded by me.

I hope this helps.

I think you'll find that Donal is objecting to the phrase "right of way".

otn

That objection is trite IMHO. Why it bothers some people
so much is beyond understanding. That they seem to relish
latching onto such an unimportant issue when other far more
pressing matters are at hand shows they may not be capable
of seeing the bigger picture.

CN

Capt. Neal® wrote:


That objection is trite IMHO. Why it bothers some people
so much is beyond understanding. That they seem to relish
latching onto such an unimportant issue when other far more
pressing matters are at hand shows they may not be capable
of seeing the bigger picture.

CN


G You won't get an argument from me, about that. However, every time a
"Rules" thread comes up, this is one point that many will consider
important.
Personally, if I'm talking with someone who doesn't mind the term, then
I feel free to use it. However, if talking with those who have a problem
with it's use, for whatever reason, I refrain.

otn

Capt. Neal® wrote:



I think you'll find that Donal is objecting to the phrase "right of way".

otn


That objection is trite IMHO. Why it bothers some people
so much is beyond understanding. That they seem to relish
latching onto such an unimportant issue when other far more
pressing matters are at hand shows they may not be capable
of seeing the bigger picture.


The big picture is that a real sailor does not assume the other vessel
will hold her course or give way in simple crossing situation. Only a
fool thinks there is a 'right of way' in this scenario. A real sailor
knows the other vessel may not give way for a multitude of reasons
includind CBD, RAM and NUC -let alone trawling.

Hope this helps.

Cheers

But there IS a right of way. The rules give it to the stand-on vessel.

Otherwise there would be chaos.

Just like the green traffic light gives you the right of way does
not mean it will keep some idiot from running the read light
and smashing into you but you do have the right of way until
such time as that happens.

Same holds true with the Colregs. They are a guide and a good one.
But like any guide they cannot be written to cover every eventuality.
That is why right of way is not an absolute but there is right of
way nonetheless.

CN



"Nav" wrote in message ...


Capt. Neal® wrote:



I think you'll find that Donal is objecting to the phrase "right of way".

otn


That objection is trite IMHO. Why it bothers some people
so much is beyond understanding. That they seem to relish
latching onto such an unimportant issue when other far more
pressing matters are at hand shows they may not be capable
of seeing the bigger picture.


The big picture is that a real sailor does not assume the other vessel
will hold her course or give way in simple crossing situation. Only a
fool thinks there is a 'right of way' in this scenario. A real sailor
knows the other vessel may not give way for a multitude of reasons
includind CBD, RAM and NUC -let alone trawling.

Hope this helps.

Cheers

Capt. Neal® wrote:

But there IS a right of way. The rules give it to the stand-on vessel.


Which may NOT be the vessel on your starboard. Do you see it now?

Cheers


Otherwise there would be chaos.

Just like the green traffic light gives you the right of way does
not mean it will keep some idiot from running the read light
and smashing into you but you do have the right of way until
such time as that happens.

Same holds true with the Colregs. They are a guide and a good one.
But like any guide they cannot be written to cover every eventuality.
That is why right of way is not an absolute but there is right of
way nonetheless.

CN



"Nav" wrote in message ...


Capt. Neal® wrote:



I think you'll find that Donal is objecting to the phrase "right of way".

otn


That objection is trite IMHO. Why it bothers some people
so much is beyond understanding. That they seem to relish
latching onto such an unimportant issue when other far more
pressing matters are at hand shows they may not be capable
of seeing the bigger picture.


The big picture is that a real sailor does not assume the other vessel
will hold her course or give way in simple crossing situation. Only a
fool thinks there is a 'right of way' in this scenario. A real sailor
knows the other vessel may not give way for a multitude of reasons
includind CBD, RAM and NUC -let alone trawling.

Hope this helps.

Cheers

Donal is a liberal. He feels the term ''right of way'' is too harsh
and may hurt somebody's feelings and give them low self esteem.

Scotty


"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
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"otnmbrd" wrote in message
ink.net...
Capt. Neal® wrote:



Wrong! A vessel that has another on its own starboard bow
is the give-way vessel. It follows that the other vessel has
the right of way. It's right of way makes it the stand-on
vessel.

I can't figure what's so hard for some people to understand
about this.

I always sit in my motor dinghy straddling the center thwart
and looking primarily to starboard. I do this so I can give-way
to vessels that are on a crossing course and are on my starboard
bow. This tells me that vessel has the right of way. In other
it's
way shall not be impeded by me.

I hope this helps.

I think you'll find that Donal is objecting to the phrase "right
of way".

otn

That objection is trite IMHO. Why it bothers some people
so much is beyond understanding. That they seem to relish
latching onto such an unimportant issue when other far more
pressing matters are at hand shows they may not be capable
of seeing the bigger picture.

CN

Scott Vernon wrote:

Donal is a liberal. He feels the term ''right of way'' is too harsh
and may hurt somebody's feelings and give them low self esteem.


How could that apply to you?

Cheers

hey, I have feelings too, ya know!!!!!!


"Nav" wrote in message
...


Scott Vernon wrote:

Donal is a liberal. He feels the term ''right of way'' is too
harsh
and may hurt somebody's feelings and give them low self esteem.


How could that apply to you?

Cheers