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Seahag December 5th 04 07:25 PM

Freestanding outdoor fireplace thingamabob for Tim's (grey haired dude from
the boatyard?) backyard so we don't freeze running Scupper! Sheesh!

Seahag

"Scott Vernon" wrote:
"Chiminea for Tim'' ???


"Seahag" wrote:


It might take longer, we bought a Chiminea for Tim yesterday...gonna

have
fires all winter!

Seahag

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
Ats OK, I got 11 months for her to cool down.

Scotty

"katysails" wrote in message
...
You gonna be in a whole speck of trouble if you keep pickin on
her...

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...

"katysails" wrote ...
Haggie can't count...

she can when she's sober.
;)













Nav December 5th 04 09:21 PM

I'm a little puzzled by your back stay toggle. It seems to be bronze in
contact with stainless. This is a very bad metal combination for
electrolysis -which would occur with all the salt spray lashing over it
from your ocean voyaging. I recommend replacing the toggle with
stainless as well. Might save a catastrophic rig failure.

Cheers



Capt. Neal® wrote:
http://captneal.homestead.com/littleperfections.html

For your viewing pleasure.

CN



Capt. Neal® December 5th 04 09:29 PM

There is no electrolysis with those two metals combined
in the atmosphere. Electrolysis only occurs in the presence
of an electrolyte. What little salt water that may splash
up on the stay does not get through the T-9 Boeshield
it is sprayed with from time to time.

For the toggle action to work the softer bronze is
necessary. Stainless on stainless would gall.

You should know that.

CN

"Nav" wrote in message ...
I'm a little puzzled by your back stay toggle. It seems to be bronze in
contact with stainless. This is a very bad metal combination for
electrolysis -which would occur with all the salt spray lashing over it
from your ocean voyaging. I recommend replacing the toggle with
stainless as well. Might save a catastrophic rig failure.

Cheers



Capt. Neal® wrote:
http://captneal.homestead.com/littleperfections.html

For your viewing pleasure.

CN




Nav December 5th 04 10:37 PM



Capt. Neal® wrote:

There is no electrolysis with those two metals combined
in the atmosphere. Electrolysis only occurs in the presence
of an electrolyte. What little salt water that may splash
up on the stay does not get through the T-9 Boeshield
it is sprayed with from time to time.


Why so little salt? After a good thrash to windward (like I had this
weekend in 30 knots) every surface gets covered with salt.

For the toggle action to work the softer bronze is
necessary. Stainless on stainless would gall.

You should know that.


I have stainless toggles. They don't gall.

Cheers


Capt. Neal® December 6th 04 12:48 AM

ON A SPLIT BACKSTAY WAY DOWN ON THE COAMING?
You must have an awfully poor design there. The only time
I get salt water in the cockpit is running downwind in a
gale.

Upwind it's dry.

CN

"Nav" wrote in message ...

Why so little salt? After a good thrash to windward (like I had this
weekend in 30 knots) every surface gets covered with salt.

For the toggle action to work the softer bronze is
necessary. Stainless on stainless would gall.

You should know that.


I have stainless toggles. They don't gall.

Cheers


Nav December 6th 04 12:55 AM



Capt. Neal® wrote:

ON A SPLIT BACKSTAY WAY DOWN ON THE COAMING?
You must have an awfully poor design there. The only time
I get salt water in the cockpit is running downwind in a
gale.

Upwind it's dry.


Have you really never sailed to windward in a big sea -you know when the
bow buries and spray flies everywhere?

Cheers


Capt. Neal® December 6th 04 12:59 AM


That's where you racers fail to appreciate a real cruising
boat. Look at my bow. It does not bury and throw spray
the length of the boat. It does not have that slack entry
like race boats nor a hull design with no shear so the bow is
no higher than the gunnels in the center of the yacht.

I've seen race boats punching through waves. My fine
blue water cruising yacht rides up and over the waves.

CN


"Nav" wrote in message ...


Capt. Neal® wrote:

ON A SPLIT BACKSTAY WAY DOWN ON THE COAMING?
You must have an awfully poor design there. The only time
I get salt water in the cockpit is running downwind in a
gale.

Upwind it's dry.


Have you really never sailed to windward in a big sea -you know when the
bow buries and spray flies everywhere?

Cheers



Nav December 6th 04 01:07 AM

It won't ride over them and stay dry they get 4m high.

Chhers

Capt. Neal® wrote:

That's where you racers fail to appreciate a real cruising
boat. Look at my bow. It does not bury and throw spray
the length of the boat. It does not have that slack entry
like race boats nor a hull design with no shear so the bow is
no higher than the gunnels in the center of the yacht.

I've seen race boats punching through waves. My fine
blue water cruising yacht rides up and over the waves.

CN


"Nav" wrote in message ...


Capt. Neal® wrote:


ON A SPLIT BACKSTAY WAY DOWN ON THE COAMING?
You must have an awfully poor design there. The only time
I get salt water in the cockpit is running downwind in a
gale.

Upwind it's dry.


Have you really never sailed to windward in a big sea -you know when the
bow buries and spray flies everywhere?

Cheers





Capt. Neal® December 6th 04 01:12 AM


Yes it will. Cruisers don't even attempt to go to weather
in those conditions. There's always an alternative destination
downwind.

CN

"Nav" wrote in message ...
It won't ride over them and stay dry they get 4m high.

Chhers

Capt. Neal® wrote:

That's where you racers fail to appreciate a real cruising
boat. Look at my bow. It does not bury and throw spray
the length of the boat. It does not have that slack entry
like race boats nor a hull design with no shear so the bow is
no higher than the gunnels in the center of the yacht.

I've seen race boats punching through waves. My fine
blue water cruising yacht rides up and over the waves.

CN


"Nav" wrote in message ...


Capt. Neal® wrote:


ON A SPLIT BACKSTAY WAY DOWN ON THE COAMING?
You must have an awfully poor design there. The only time
I get salt water in the cockpit is running downwind in a
gale.

Upwind it's dry.


Have you really never sailed to windward in a big sea -you know when the
bow buries and spray flies everywhere?

Cheers






Nav December 6th 04 01:34 AM

Always? You would run downwind until you meet a lee shore?

Cheers

Capt. Neal® wrote:
Yes it will. Cruisers don't even attempt to go to weather
in those conditions. There's always an alternative destination
downwind.

CN

"Nav" wrote in message ...

It won't ride over them and stay dry they get 4m high.

Chhers

Capt. Neal® wrote:


That's where you racers fail to appreciate a real cruising
boat. Look at my bow. It does not bury and throw spray
the length of the boat. It does not have that slack entry
like race boats nor a hull design with no shear so the bow is
no higher than the gunnels in the center of the yacht.

I've seen race boats punching through waves. My fine
blue water cruising yacht rides up and over the waves.

CN


"Nav" wrote in message ...


Capt. Neal® wrote:



ON A SPLIT BACKSTAY WAY DOWN ON THE COAMING?
You must have an awfully poor design there. The only time
I get salt water in the cockpit is running downwind in a
gale.

Upwind it's dry.


Have you really never sailed to windward in a big sea -you know when the
bow buries and spray flies everywhere?

Cheers







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