katysails wrote:
It's shoal draft...it probably slams a lot to wind...

Shaol draft and a hull shaped like a butter tub. But I dunno if the
Coronado 27 ever slams or pounds, I don't think they can get up enough
headway when pointing hard on the wind. Especially not with the Crapton®
aboard.

Fresh Breezes-
Doug King

PLONK!


"DSK" wrote in message . ..
katysails wrote:
It's shoal draft...it probably slams a lot to wind...

Shaol draft and a hull shaped like a butter tub. But I dunno if the
Coronado 27 ever slams or pounds, I don't think they can get up enough
headway when pointing hard on the wind. Especially not with the Crapton®
aboard.

Fresh Breezes-
Doug King

Perfect. Soon Crapton will be talking to himself exclusively through his
sockpuppets.

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www.sailnow.com

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
PLONK!


"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
katysails wrote:
It's shoal draft...it probably slams a lot to wind...

Shaol draft and a hull shaped like a butter tub. But I dunno if the
Coronado 27 ever slams or pounds, I don't think they can get up enough
headway when pointing hard on the wind. Especially not with the Crapton®
aboard.

Fresh Breezes-
Doug King

I don't think this right. In the northern hemisphere, you should try
escape the most dangerous quadrant by sailing close hauled on starboard
to move off the hurricane track as fast as possible.

Cheers

Capt. Neal® wrote:
One escapes the dangerous quadrant (assuming sea room all around)
[and in the northern hemisphere] not by beating into the winds
but by putting them on one's quarter.

CN

"Nav" wrote in message ...

You would not try to escape the dangerous quadrant of a storm or worse?

Cheers



Capt. Neal® wrote:


Yes it will. Cruisers don't even attempt to go to weather
in those conditions. There's always an alternative destination
downwind.

CN

"Nav" wrote in message ...


It won't ride over them and stay dry they get 4m high.

Chhers

Capt. Neal® wrote:



That's where you racers fail to appreciate a real cruising
boat. Look at my bow. It does not bury and throw spray
the length of the boat. It does not have that slack entry
like race boats nor a hull design with no shear so the bow is
no higher than the gunnels in the center of the yacht.

I've seen race boats punching through waves. My fine
blue water cruising yacht rides up and over the waves.

CN


"Nav" wrote in message ...



Capt. Neal® wrote:




ON A SPLIT BACKSTAY WAY DOWN ON THE COAMING?
You must have an awfully poor design there. The only time
I get salt water in the cockpit is running downwind in a
gale.

Upwind it's dry.


Have you really never sailed to windward in a big sea -you know when the
bow buries and spray flies everywhere?

Cheers

Depends where you are in respect to the dangerous quadrant.

For example. Say I am in George Town in the Bahamas and a
'cane is coming up from the Mona passage area.

In George Town I would first feel a wind from the Northeast
as it approaches.

I put the NE wind on my starboard quarter and sail off
towards the Cay Sal bank and Cuba. This direction will
get me out of danger of the dangerous quadrant and
allow me to sail a nice comfortable broad reach.

CN

"Nav" wrote in message ...
I don't think this right. In the northern hemisphere, you should try
escape the most dangerous quadrant by sailing close hauled on starboard
to move off the hurricane track as fast as possible.

Cheers

Capt. Neal® wrote:
One escapes the dangerous quadrant (assuming sea room all around)
[and in the northern hemisphere] not by beating into the winds
but by putting them on one's quarter.

CN

"Nav" wrote in message ...

You would not try to escape the dangerous quadrant of a storm or worse?

Cheers



Capt. Neal® wrote:


Yes it will. Cruisers don't even attempt to go to weather
in those conditions. There's always an alternative destination
downwind.

CN

"Nav" wrote in message ...


It won't ride over them and stay dry they get 4m high.

Chhers

Capt. Neal® wrote:



That's where you racers fail to appreciate a real cruising
boat. Look at my bow. It does not bury and throw spray
the length of the boat. It does not have that slack entry
like race boats nor a hull design with no shear so the bow is
no higher than the gunnels in the center of the yacht.

I've seen race boats punching through waves. My fine
blue water cruising yacht rides up and over the waves.

CN


"Nav" wrote in message ...



Capt. Neal® wrote:




ON A SPLIT BACKSTAY WAY DOWN ON THE COAMING?
You must have an awfully poor design there. The only time
I get salt water in the cockpit is running downwind in a
gale.

Upwind it's dry.


Have you really never sailed to windward in a big sea -you know when the
bow buries and spray flies everywhere?

Cheers

Good for Scout! We had a couple of really nice fires over the weekend. I
just love watching a wood fi^)

Seahag

"Scott Vernon" wrote:
Oh, one of those yuppie fireplace things, I think Scout has one too.


"Seahag" wrote:
Freestanding outdoor fireplace thingamabob for Tim's (grey haired
dude from
the boatyard?) backyard so we don't freeze running Scupper! Sheesh!


"Scott Vernon" wrote:
"Chiminea for Tim'' ???


"Seahag" wrote:

It might take longer, we bought a Chiminea for Tim
yesterday...gonna
have
fires all winter!

No, it will mean you never leave the quadrant as you will be sailing
parallel or towards the hurricane track. The hurricane moves ~ NW until
it recurves.

I say again, you sail close hauled on starboard tack away from the
likely track as fast as possible

Isn't it interesting that no one else is commenting on this sailing thread?

Cheers

Capt. Neal® wrote:

Depends where you are in respect to the dangerous quadrant.

For example. Say I am in George Town in the Bahamas and a
'cane is coming up from the Mona passage area.

In George Town I would first feel a wind from the Northeast
as it approaches.

I put the NE wind on my starboard quarter and sail off
towards the Cay Sal bank and Cuba. This direction will
get me out of danger of the dangerous quadrant and
allow me to sail a nice comfortable broad reach.

CN

"Nav" wrote in message ...

I don't think this right. In the northern hemisphere, you should try
escape the most dangerous quadrant by sailing close hauled on starboard
to move off the hurricane track as fast as possible.

Cheers

Capt. Neal® wrote:

One escapes the dangerous quadrant (assuming sea room all around)
[and in the northern hemisphere] not by beating into the winds
but by putting them on one's quarter.

CN

"Nav" wrote in message ...


You would not try to escape the dangerous quadrant of a storm or worse?

Cheers



Capt. Neal® wrote:



Yes it will. Cruisers don't even attempt to go to weather
in those conditions. There's always an alternative destination
downwind.

CN

"Nav" wrote in message ...



It won't ride over them and stay dry they get 4m high.

Chhers

Capt. Neal® wrote:




That's where you racers fail to appreciate a real cruising
boat. Look at my bow. It does not bury and throw spray
the length of the boat. It does not have that slack entry
like race boats nor a hull design with no shear so the bow is
no higher than the gunnels in the center of the yacht.

I've seen race boats punching through waves. My fine
blue water cruising yacht rides up and over the waves.

CN


"Nav" wrote in message ...




Capt. Neal® wrote:





ON A SPLIT BACKSTAY WAY DOWN ON THE COAMING?
You must have an awfully poor design there. The only time
I get salt water in the cockpit is running downwind in a
gale.

Upwind it's dry.


Have you really never sailed to windward in a big sea -you know when the
bow buries and spray flies everywhere?

Cheers

I'm reading it and laughing. Since I've never been in those sort of
conditions and haven't read much about it, I'm not qualified to comment,
except to say that Neal is an idiot.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Nav" wrote in message
...
No, it will mean you never leave the quadrant as you will be sailing
parallel or towards the hurricane track. The hurricane moves ~ NW until it
recurves.

I say again, you sail close hauled on starboard tack away from the likely
track as fast as possible

Isn't it interesting that no one else is commenting on this sailing
thread?

Cheers

Capt. Neal® wrote:

Depends where you are in respect to the dangerous quadrant.

For example. Say I am in George Town in the Bahamas and a
'cane is coming up from the Mona passage area.

In George Town I would first feel a wind from the Northeast
as it approaches.

I put the NE wind on my starboard quarter and sail off
towards the Cay Sal bank and Cuba. This direction will
get me out of danger of the dangerous quadrant and
allow me to sail a nice comfortable broad reach.

CN

"Nav" wrote in message
...

I don't think this right. In the northern hemisphere, you should try
escape the most dangerous quadrant by sailing close hauled on starboard
to move off the hurricane track as fast as possible.

Cheers

Capt. Neal® wrote:

One escapes the dangerous quadrant (assuming sea room all around)
[and in the northern hemisphere] not by beating into the winds
but by putting them on one's quarter.

CN

"Nav" wrote in message
...


You would not try to escape the dangerous quadrant of a storm or worse?

Cheers



Capt. Neal® wrote:



Yes it will. Cruisers don't even attempt to go to weather
in those conditions. There's always an alternative destination
downwind.

CN

"Nav" wrote in message
...



It won't ride over them and stay dry they get 4m high.

Chhers

Capt. Neal® wrote:




That's where you racers fail to appreciate a real cruising
boat. Look at my bow. It does not bury and throw spray
the length of the boat. It does not have that slack entry
like race boats nor a hull design with no shear so the bow is
no higher than the gunnels in the center of the yacht.

I've seen race boats punching through waves. My fine
blue water cruising yacht rides up and over the waves.

CN


"Nav" wrote in message
...




Capt. Neal® wrote:





ON A SPLIT BACKSTAY WAY DOWN ON THE COAMING?
You must have an awfully poor design there. The only time
I get salt water in the cockpit is running downwind in a
gale.

Upwind it's dry.


Have you really never sailed to windward in a big sea -you know
when the
bow buries and spray flies everywhere?

Cheers

Yeah, me too, better than a TV, especially when stoned.

Scotty

"Seahag" wrote in message
...
Good for Scout! We had a couple of really nice fires over the
weekend. I
just love watching a wood fi^)

Seahag

"Scott Vernon" wrote:
Oh, one of those yuppie fireplace things, I think Scout has one
too.


"Seahag" wrote:
Freestanding outdoor fireplace thingamabob for Tim's (grey haired
dude from
the boatyard?) backyard so we don't freeze running Scupper!
Sheesh!


"Scott Vernon" wrote:
"Chiminea for Tim'' ???


"Seahag" wrote:

It might take longer, we bought a Chiminea for Tim
yesterday...gonna
have
fires all winter!

Someone threw rocks at you? How sad!

Seahag

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
Yeah, me too, better than a TV, especially when stoned.

Scotty

"Seahag" wrote in message
...
Good for Scout! We had a couple of really nice fires over the
weekend. I
just love watching a wood fi^)

Seahag

"Scott Vernon" wrote:
Oh, one of those yuppie fireplace things, I think Scout has one
too.


"Seahag" wrote:
Freestanding outdoor fireplace thingamabob for Tim's (grey haired
dude from
the boatyard?) backyard so we don't freeze running Scupper!
Sheesh!


"Scott Vernon" wrote:
"Chiminea for Tim'' ???


"Seahag" wrote:

It might take longer, we bought a Chiminea for Tim
yesterday...gonna
have
fires all winter!