"Joe" wrote in message om...

If you use a proper torch like this one for your flame
http://darkknight.moostores.com/cata...ges/torch2.jpg
You could use most any type of fuel found anywhere on earth. I know
thats important to a cruiser like you. Plus they look great and when
properly burned they are clean and efficient. A good torch will last
as long as your coleman tank only pumping it up 2-3 times. The one in
the picture is assembled in-correctly BTW.


That's a nice torch but can it burn propane? It is important to
have a nice, clean-burning flame since the heater is not vented
to the outside of the cabin. A nice layer of black soot might
be beneficial to keep a steel boat from rusting but it is unsightly
and unnecessary in a fine GRP vessel such as mine.

CN

You need to read the disclaimer on the web page.

I clearly stated the cabin heater needed to be used
in a ventilated cabin.

Do you die of asphyxiation or CO poisoning when you
fire up your cook stove or oven for an hour or two.
No, because you let air into the cabin or the cabin
is not a sealed space by virtue of slightly open
or loose-fitting hatch boards, etc.

There is a nice cowl vent/dorade right over my head
which supplies me with a good flow of fresh air when
I'm sleeping. The stove is safe as long as this is open.

CN



"Nav" wrote in message ...
Dear Captain, Are you planning to kill yourself? To heat the cabin with
exhaust fumes from a propane burner is very dangerous. I can honestly
say that even your most vociferous detractors would not wish to depart
the earth in this way.

Cheers MC


Capt. Neal® wrote:

Thank you, sir.

I'll have to let you know as it hasn't gotten cold enough to use
for an extended period. I suspect it will go for a couple nights
use on low.

CN


"Thom Stewart" wrote in message ...

A very nice job!!! Looks great.

A question: How much running time do you get out a cylinder of gas?

Ole Thom

I'll have to let you know as it hasn't gotten cold enough to use
for an extended period. I suspect it will go for a couple nights
use on low.


ah, it will run on low the same length of time a Coleman propane stove will run
on low. If I remember correctly, a Coleman propane lantern will run about 4
hours on a cylinder. (and produce one hell of a lot of moisture)

Capt. Neal® wrote in message ...
"Joe" wrote in message om...

If you use a proper torch like this one for your flame
http://darkknight.moostores.com/cata...ges/torch2.jpg
You could use most any type of fuel found anywhere on earth. I know
thats important to a cruiser like you. Plus they look great and when
properly burned they are clean and efficient. A good torch will last
as long as your coleman tank only pumping it up 2-3 times. The one in
the picture is assembled in-correctly BTW.


That's a nice torch but can it burn propane? It is important to
have a nice, clean-burning flame since the heater is not vented
to the outside of the cabin.

Most burn Kerosene. If properly used the throte of the torch becomes
so hot the kerosene is vaporized as it enters the flame. It is a very
clean burn, no soot at all. In the picture of the torch you will see a
pre heater tub that is suppose to be under the torch not the valves,
it is filled with fuel to preheat the burner. This type torch has been
used for close to 100 years. As I stated before you can get ones with
vertical flames that would work perfect for your heater. As others
have stated your coleman tank will last 4 hours IF your lucky.
Better run to wally world and stock up.


A nice layer of black soot might
be beneficial to keep a steel boat from rusting but it is unsightly
and unnecessary in a fine GRP vessel such as mine.

Inside my fine english steel vessel you see no steel at all. Only fine
Phillipino mahogony, Tan swede cushions, and fine vintage WWII issue
Chelsea instruments from the battleship Oklahoma hanging on the
bulkheads mixed with antique fine art. I have a favored print of the
river Thames warfes dated 1830.

When I bought RedCloud I stripped the interior Epoxied all the steel
re-wired all the boat, all new state of the art lighting including
side lite fiberoptics and LED lighitng put in 2 inches of insulation
then Mahogany. For the shower and head I used grp sheeting like you
see in many fine resturants.


Joe





CN

"Joe" wrote in message om...
That's a nice torch but can it burn propane? It is important to
have a nice, clean-burning flame since the heater is not vented
to the outside of the cabin.

Most burn Kerosene. If properly used the throte of the torch becomes
so hot the kerosene is vaporized as it enters the flame. It is a very
clean burn, no soot at all. In the picture of the torch you will see a
pre heater tub that is suppose to be under the torch not the valves,
it is filled with fuel to preheat the burner. This type torch has been
used for close to 100 years. As I stated before you can get ones with
vertical flames that would work perfect for your heater. As others
have stated your coleman tank will last 4 hours IF your lucky.

If I recall, those old-style torches are gawdawful noisy. I recall
the one my dear departed dad used to melt lead. It roared enough
to wake up the dead. I doubt one could get a decent night's sleep
listening to that racket.

My little heater will run longer than four hours - guaranteed.
I've already run it two hours on low for testing and the
bottle is only a little lighter than a new one. I use the same
bottles on my Force 10 barbeque and even with the much larger
burner the barbeque lasts about 8 hours before it needs a new
bottle. I'm guessing two or three nights on low heat per propane
bottle which amounts to less than a buck a night for a nice warm
cabin.

But, I'll let you skeptics know when we get a cold front.
None so far to speak of. Today's it's in the mid 80's with warm
southerly winds. Supposed to be some sort of little front
coming on Thanksgiving but no significant temperature drop
associated with it.

Inside my fine english steel vessel you see no steel at all. Only fine
Phillipino mahogony, Tan swede cushions, and fine vintage WWII issue
Chelsea instruments from the battleship Oklahoma hanging on the
bulkheads mixed with antique fine art. I have a favored print of the
river Thames warfes dated 1830.

When I bought RedCloud I stripped the interior Epoxied all the steel
re-wired all the boat, all new state of the art lighting including
side lite fiberoptics and LED lighitng put in 2 inches of insulation
then Mahogany. For the shower and head I used grp sheeting like you
see in many fine resturants.

Sounds very spiffy. It's always nice to hear about fine vessels
of which the owner is proud and happy enough to keep and
sail for extended periods of time. This is indicative of a satisfied
man, real sailor and a fine vessel.

Note the difference between your situation and that of the
great pretender, Bobsprit, who has purchased a string of
lackluster, unsuitable vessels only to attempt to get rid of
them soon after he discovers they aren't capable of impressing
his friends, let alone being suitable for cruising and living
aboard comfortably. It's a shame.

People such as you myself, Ole Thom, Mooron, Navigator,
and even Gilligan, if ever he should trade a mountain cabin
in for a sea level cruising yacht, personify the true meaning
of sailing. You even have me beat in a couple of areas one
of which is your most excellent crew. Steel boat or not,
you are to be commended.

Wishing you and Miss Terry a fine Thanksgiving day.

Respectfully,
Capt. Neal
~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Capt. Neal® wrote in message ...
"Joe" wrote in message om...
That's a nice torch but can it burn propane? It is important to
have a nice, clean-burning flame since the heater is not vented
to the outside of the cabin.

Most burn Kerosene. If properly used the throte of the torch becomes
so hot the kerosene is vaporized as it enters the flame. It is a very
clean burn, no soot at all. In the picture of the torch you will see a
pre heater tub that is suppose to be under the torch not the valves,
it is filled with fuel to preheat the burner. This type torch has been
used for close to 100 years. As I stated before you can get ones with
vertical flames that would work perfect for your heater. As others
have stated your coleman tank will last 4 hours IF your lucky.

If I recall, those old-style torches are gawdawful noisy. I recall
the one my dear departed dad used to melt lead. It roared enough
to wake up the dead. I doubt one could get a decent night's sleep
listening to that racket.

What? No way, they can be as quiet as a mouse.




My little heater will run longer than four hours - guaranteed.
I've already run it two hours on low for testing and the
bottle is only a little lighter than a new one. I use the same
bottles on my Force 10 barbeque and even with the much larger
burner the barbeque lasts about 8 hours before it needs a new
bottle.

My magma grill uses them as well, Im lucky to get 3 sets of ribeyes
out of a bottle, That 45 min burn time.

I'm guessing two or three nights on low heat per propane
bottle which amounts to less than a buck a night for a nice warm
cabin.

But, I'll let you skeptics know when we get a cold front.
None so far to speak of. Today's it's in the mid 80's with warm
southerly winds. Supposed to be some sort of little front
coming on Thanksgiving but no significant temperature drop
associated with it.


Its a pretty rowdy front headin your way, we will get all the way down
to 45 tonight, will have to drag out an extra quilt.

Inside my fine english steel vessel you see no steel at all. Only fine
Phillipino mahogony, Tan swede cushions, and fine vintage WWII issue
Chelsea instruments from the battleship Oklahoma hanging on the
bulkheads mixed with antique fine art. I have a favored print of the
river Thames warfes dated 1830.

When I bought RedCloud I stripped the interior Epoxied all the steel
re-wired all the boat, all new state of the art lighting including
side lite fiberoptics and LED lighitng put in 2 inches of insulation
then Mahogany. For the shower and head I used grp sheeting like you
see in many fine resturants.

Sounds very spiffy. It's always nice to hear about fine vessels
of which the owner is proud and happy enough to keep and
sail for extended periods of time. This is indicative of a satisfied
man, real sailor and a fine vessel.


Indeed I love my boat it is perfect and will last a lifetime.


Note the difference between your situation and that of the
great pretender, Bobsprit, who has purchased a string of
lackluster, unsuitable vessels only to attempt to get rid of
them soon after he discovers they aren't capable of impressing
his friends, let alone being suitable for cruising and living
aboard comfortably. It's a shame.

A sad shame indeed that his wifes boat is just another stepping stone
for him to cast aside.


People such as you myself, Ole Thom, Mooron, Navigator,
and even Gilligan, if ever he should trade a mountain cabin
in for a sea level cruising yacht, personify the true meaning
of sailing. You even have me beat in a couple of areas one
of which is your most excellent crew. Steel boat or not,
you are to be commended.

Thank you Capt. You have a fine Thanksgiving as well. Us American have
much to be thankful for.

Joe & Miss Terry




Wishing you and Miss Terry a fine Thanksgiving day.

Respectfully,
Capt. Neal
~~~~~~~~~~~~~