Why would you eed a watermaker if you didn't need to warrant an extented
range? If you are talking about a watermaker to replace tankage you have
to be considering a 'maker wth a power supply,
correct?

I don't need a watermaker, Thom. It will be removed and sold/traded.

RB

It is not a replacement for cellular service..... not yet.


The boat has nearly 4K worth of recent sat phone gear installed. I can get
service very cheaply through the company I freelance for. What's the problem,
Mooron? A tiny amount of cash in exchange for another level of comunnication is
a bad thing?

RB

People still sail without power,,,,,,,,........
Yes they do. I never stated otherwise. They do it over great distances
but that doesn't mean here isn't a limit on their range. You, my friend
and your Pooka friend contend they have unlimited range. I disagree and
stated why.

It was you and your Pooka that have added other range limiters. Showers
and watermakers do reduce that range or change the sail boat to an Aux.

Ole Thom

I don't need a watermaker

That doesn't make your statement correct.
Sailboat do have a limited range. It is a very good range but it does
have a limit, is people (crew) is involved.

The only sailboats that don't are the "Ghost Ships" That may be what
your Pooka means:^) He probably talk it over with "Harvey" Do you
suppose that is where the unlimited range came from?

Ole Thom

Showers
and watermakers do reduce that range or change the sail boat to an Aux.

You heard it here 1st, my friends!!! Add a shower and cut your vessels range!!!

Bwahahahahahaha!

RB

That doesn't make your statement correct.
Sailboat do have a limited range. It is a very good range but it does
have a limit, is people (crew) is involved.

The statement is about sailboats, NOT about the crew. A sailboat has unlimited
range. All other factors, such as crew and what they need are external. The
BOAT has unlimited range.

RB

"Thom Stewart" wrote

The only sailboats that don't are the "Ghost Ships" That may be
what
your Pooka means:^) He probably talk it over with "Harvey" Do you
suppose that is where the unlimited range came from?


Pooka BillBob thinks the movie Pirates of the Caribbean is real.

Scotty

"Overproof" wrote ...
POOKA BillBob stupidly wrote....
There is no place along the
coast, or inland in Nova Scotia that remotely approaches the
wealth of the
land
surrounding the LIS. Not even close.

This is so stupid a statement on your part as to not require a
response
Bill.!

Just goes to show you where billbobs head is.

SV

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
You would know "Pooka Bill" You're a creation of his strange (sic)
Mind.

Did he do the race or not.


That was my question, which he conveniently sidestepped.

SV

"Bob**** the big fat LOSER" wrote ...
It's only a waste of space if you don't like a nice hot shower
aboard. You
could also make the case that most of the berths on board are a
waste of space
as well.


They are, for daysailors like you.

SV

"Bob**** the big fat LOSER" wrote ...

The statement is about sailboats, NOT about the crew. A sailboat has
unlimited
range. All other factors, such as crew and what they need are
external. The
BOAT has unlimited range.


As does a 12' rowboat.


Scotty

"Bob**** the big fat LOSER" wrote ...
Sailboat do not have unlimited range. Never did and never will.

The limiting factors; People and their needs.

Thom, you've proven my point with ease. SAILBOATS have unlimited
range.

As does a soda bottle.

Thom, you've proven my point with ease. SAILBOATS have unlimited
range.

As does a soda bottle

Not with a shower stall installed on the soda bottle. So says Thom.

RB

While the boat may have unlimited range asin circumnavigation, most, if
not all crews don't have unlimited range

The original statement was about sailboats, not crew. Thom and Scotty Potti
were wrong again.

RB

Hey Pooka Bill,

Around the Globe non-stop is not unheard of but that was done with crew
and special provisions to extend the range

Pooka, Every boat anchored in the Harbor or/and on the hard have the
same range. That goes for sail or Power. It's range is set as soon as
crew is added that limits come into play.

Now, if you want to give us a news flash tell us about an "Around the
Globe" with a crewless sailboat. One sail set only. No course changes.
The Port of Departure the same as the Port of Entry, after a Globe
circling passage. Then I'll say with you: "Folks, you heard it hear
BAAAAHAAAAA!" Don't give me your dumb opinion and act like its FACT!

Pooka, why don't you get together with "Harvey" and have a drink? It is
senseless to have a discussion with a "FRIG----ment" of imagination.
This is the only time it is going to happen with me involved

Ole Thom

Nutsy,

Hook that shower up to a fresh water tank and you got a pretty good size
soda bottle.

A vessel at sea is a "Derelict" without a crew, be it Sail or POWER.
The range of said vessel is unknown (Could be unlimited) but without
crew I'd dought it.

Give it up Nutsy, You're in a hole of your own making. Digging more only
makes it deeper!

Ole Thom

A vessel at sea is a "Derelict" without a crew, be it Sail or POWER.
The range of said vessel is unknown (Could be unlimited) but without
crew I'd dought it.


Thom, your simply a victim in this one. A sailboat has unlimited range and it
sure isn't effected by a shower!

RB

Around the Globe non-stop is not unheard of but that was done with crew
and special provisions to extend the range

Right, a sailboat has unlimited range. Provisions are a given. No one here said
that a sailboat had unlimited range WITHOUT provisions. You merely introduced
that item when you got caught with your pants down...again!

RB

Pooka, Every boat anchored in the Harbor or/and on the hard have the
same range. That goes for sail or Power.


Wrong, wrong, wrong. You simply can't get a 25 foot powerboat long distances
without stopping. It's need for fuel is a huge problem. The sailboat doesn't
need fuel and it can make water. Plenty of 25 sailboats have crossed oceans and
circumnavigated. How many 25 foot powerboats?
I'll help you out. The smallest powerboat to circumnavagate is a 40 foot
Nordhavn.
And so ends Thom's desperate chance of making any valid points!

RB

Forget the Boob's stupid original post. Forget water tanks, watermakers and
provisions. Just like fuel and a motor is to a power boat sails eventually
disintegrate after prolonged exposure to UV rays. Therefore even with a crew
who didn't require food or water any sailboat would eventually loose her sails
and come to a stop. Once again the Boob is proven wrong. He knows nothing
about boats.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"Trains are a winter sport"

Just like fuel and a motor is to a power boat sails eventually
disintegrate after prolonged exposure to UV rays. Therefore even with a crew
who didn't require food or water any sailboat would eventually loose her sails
and come to a stop.

How sad a post for Loco! Sailboats have unlimited range. A sailboat can carry
enough sails to sail around the world twice with ease.
Sorry, Loco. You just joined Thom is the loser circle.
But if you really want to be crazy, lets just say that eventually the
fiberglass will turn to dust or the sun will expand and dry out the oceans
or.....

Bwahahahahaha!

RB

He knows nothing
about boats.


This from the guy who says he believes Seidlemann is a better built boat than a
C&C!!!!

RB

"Bobsprit" wrote in message

How sad a post for Loco! Sailboats have unlimited range. A sailboat can
carry
enough sails to sail around the world twice with ease.

GOOD GRIEF!!!!

That hardly rates as "unlimited".... unless of course, as in your
case..... the furthest reaches of your explored space only encompasses the
limits of the inner harbour.

Face it Bob.... a sailboat does not have "unlimited" range. Extended
yes..... unlimited NO!

See there you go..... I'm not on the fence regarding this issue. :-D

CM

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...

Unlike you, I don't have to worry about getting AIDS.


I'm sorry to hear that, Jon.

Have you already got AIDS, .. or have you given up sex?



Regards


Donal
--

"Overproof" wrote in message
news:oidld.149298$df2.36126@edtnps89...
Yes... let's talk operational costs shall we... if only to substantiate
your
claim to it being "inexpensive".
I have a lot of experience with Sat Phones... I use them regularly for
work
related communications in extremely remote locations.

I cannot see a viable use for one on a coastal cruiser.


You think that Bob does coastal cruising?????




Regards


Donal
--

"Donal" wrote in message
...

"Overproof" wrote in message
news:oidld.149298$df2.36126@edtnps89...
Yes... let's talk operational costs shall we... if only to substantiate
your
claim to it being "inexpensive".
I have a lot of experience with Sat Phones... I use them regularly for
work
related communications in extremely remote locations.

I cannot see a viable use for one on a coastal cruiser.


You think that Bob does coastal cruising?????

Well what would you call cruising along the coast?
....even if that "coast" amounts to a dock and a breakwater.

CM

"Donal" wrote in message
...

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...

Unlike you, I don't have to worry about getting AIDS.


I'm sorry to hear that, Jon.

Have you already got AIDS, .. or have you given up sex?

Jon probably practices safe sex by using rubber gloves and having both his
hands checked every 6 months.

CM

Good question, Donal,

I don't think Nutsy has sailed the south coast of Long Island. About 120
miles. The Sat Phone wasn't activated :^)

Reading his posts, do you suppsed his boat done it without him? Any boat
he is on, any boat, has a very limited range. Very limited. Even if he
uses Pooka Bill to say otherwise.

Ole Thom

How sad a post for Loco! Sailboats have unlimited range. A sailboat can
carry
enough sails to sail around the world twice with ease.
Sorry, Loco. .

Excuse me but twice around isn't unlimited. No sailboat can carry enough sails
to give her unlimited range. So I think you loose Boob. Sorry to you.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"Trains are a winter sport"

Good one donal, but the answer is neither. However, in your case,
I can just imagine.

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www.sailnow.com

"Donal" wrote in message
...

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...

Unlike you, I don't have to worry about getting AIDS.


I'm sorry to hear that, Jon.

Have you already got AIDS, .. or have you given up sex?



Regards


Donal
--

Is that what you do? Gee, Canada is stranger than I thought!

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Overproof" wrote in message
news:BKxld.168324$9b.160030@edtnps84...

"Donal" wrote in message
...

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...

Unlike you, I don't have to worry about getting AIDS.


I'm sorry to hear that, Jon.

Have you already got AIDS, .. or have you given up sex?

Jon probably practices safe sex by using rubber gloves and having both his
hands checked every 6 months.

CM

ganz..........women...................Bawahaaaaaaa aaaaa.
what a joke
gf.

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Is that what you do? Gee, Canada is stranger than I thought!

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Overproof" wrote in message
news:BKxld.168324$9b.160030@edtnps84...

"Donal" wrote in message
...

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...

Unlike you, I don't have to worry about getting AIDS.


I'm sorry to hear that, Jon.

Have you already got AIDS, .. or have you given up sex?

Jon probably practices safe sex by using rubber gloves and having both
his hands checked every 6 months.

CM

Jesus Loco, just how far will you go to try and prove you're right?
You've already gone past the point of idiocy!

Fact is, sailboats aren't limited to a range as it's cnventionally
read.

Exactly, Ozzy. Poor Loco is forced to abandon the context and make himself an
idiot again.
The discussion began with Joe claiming more range for his boat than Doug...for
motoring! But Joe's boat carries a rig and can sail (to some degree), so Doug
loses the contest by a few circumnavigations at least.
Sailboats have no range limit. It's what makes a sailboat such a romantic
notion compared to the powerboat.
Loco has no understanding of such things nor does Thom.

RB

Nutsy,

My point has been made about limits. I claim VICTORY :^P You can keep
digging but as I've said, you will only make the hole you created for
yourself deeper.

My statement wasn't meant to be a contest but you made it so and you
lost.

YOU LOST! YOU LOST!! YOU LOST!!!

Just like your talk about Bush and Kerry;
You Lost. you lost.

You really are proving yourself to be a
LOSER all by yourself. Your Pooka helps but only after you have proven
it yourself

Bye,bye, LOSER,

Ole Thom

Spoken by someone with obviously limited experience.

Hate to tell you fishboy, you're the joke.

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"gonefishiing" wrote in message
...
ganz..........women...................Bawahaaaaaaa aaaaa.
what a joke
gf.

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Is that what you do? Gee, Canada is stranger than I thought!

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Overproof" wrote in message
news:BKxld.168324$9b.160030@edtnps84...

"Donal" wrote in message
...

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...

Unlike you, I don't have to worry about getting AIDS.


I'm sorry to hear that, Jon.

Have you already got AIDS, .. or have you given up sex?

Jon probably practices safe sex by using rubber gloves and having both
his hands checked every 6 months.

CM

Pooka Bill is mad and Nutsy's Sad and I'm GLAD!!!!

YOU"RE A LOSER! YOU"RE A LOSER!!
I'M LOL!! HAH-HAH!!

SO IS Pooka Bill a LOSER!! (LOL)

This is just to let you know, other people can play at stupid kids
games.

You know what a kid LOSER does, don't you? They announce; " I'M NOT
PLAYING NOOOO MORE!"

See Ya,
Ole Thom

BB, limit;--

What NUTSY writes in his ID,
So he's a LOSER!!! BB is a loser to Bush, Scotty, Loco, Donal and even
Ole Thom!!

BB:----"BORN TO LOSE!!" For NUTSY.

See Ya,
Ole Thom

Pooka Bill,

I can make you mad with my $100 Unit.
How much does it cost Nutsy to operate you? Ten times as much?

You LOSE AGAIN!! Both you and your Puppet Master;

Losers, Losers-- "I'll Drink to That!"
"Here to you, LOSER!)

Ole Thom

Nutsy,

My Meds are OK and I post under my own name.

Can you say the same LOSER! Also for your Pooka Loser

Ole Thom
P/S Sailboats Range is determned by the length of time it can support
its Crew :^P So there.