That's news to me. What does a water tank have to do with range? There are
many ways to get fresh water while cruising.

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message
...
Uh, Joe...Sailboats have unlimited range.

Uh, Boob....... they are linited by the size of the water tanks.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"Trains are a winter sport"

Uh, Joe...Sailboats have unlimited range.

Uh, Boob....... they are linited by the size of the water tanks.

Loco, ever hear of a "watermaker???"
You're as dumb as Joe. Well, almost.

RB

Uh, Boob....... they are linited by the size of the water tanks.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"Trains are a winter sport"

WTF?

I dunno, but Thom seems to agree.

RB

I guess it might have
something to do with "couples" and the possibility that women might want to
shower more frequently than men.


Not a factor for Loco. Ozzy's "WTF?" stands.

RB

"Thom Stewart" wrote

That is why Nutsy is a damn waste of Empty space!

Agreed.

"John Cairns" wrote i

Probably because Bob hasn't done any blue-water sailing in the
Atlantic,
even though he's had ample opportunity to do so over the years, by
his own
reckoning.


But he did the round Long Island race. At least he bragged that he
was going to do it.

he did it, right?

SV

"John Cairns" wrote

Probably because Bob hasn't done any blue-water sailing in the
Atlantic,
even though he's had ample opportunity to do so over the years, by
his own
reckoning.

What about his famous 'sail to nowhere'? I remember him bragging
about that even before he did it.

When *did* he do that, anyway?

Scotty

"John Cairns" wrote in message
m...

OzOne wrote in message
...
On 12 Nov 2004 19:51:31 GMT, (SAIL LOCO)
scribbled
thusly:

Uh, Joe...Sailboats have unlimited range.

Uh, Boob....... they are linited by the size of the water tanks.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"Trains are a winter sport"

WTF?


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.

Lux blue-water cruising? I suppose if you use water aboard like you
do at
home, water tank size might be an issue, I've never heard it, OTOH,
a lot of
contemporary blue-water boats have watermakers, I guess it might
have
something to do with "couples" and the possibility that women might
want to
shower more frequently than men.


Or if you only daysail like the boob****.

Scotty

He thinks that means taking a ****.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Uh, Joe...Sailboats have unlimited range.

Uh, Boob....... they are linited by the size of the water tanks.

Loco, ever hear of a "watermaker???"
You're as dumb as Joe. Well, almost.

RB

wrote ...

But he did the round Long Island race. At least he bragged that he
was going to do it.

he did it, right?


Are you sure he didn't?

BoB

Only you know for sure.

Do you know what a '?' is?


--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Sat Phone!!.... Coastal!!!... Bwahahahahahahahahahaaaaa

Do you have a clue as to how ridiculous that is!

Nope. It costs very little and is only to be used in an emergency. Since
and
expensive system is on board, why not keep it operational? Cell phones
don't
always work and being able to make a call in a medical emergency seems
like a
good thing.

Obviously you haven't thought this comment through very well.......
otherwise you'd be as privy to it's ridiculous pretense as anyone here with
experience in Sat Phone Technology and it's associated costs.

Tell us Bob... what Sat Phone provider are you going to register with? No
.... please Telus!

CM

wrote ... What about his famous 'sail to
nowhere'? I remember him bragging
about that even before he did it.

When *did* he do that, anyway?


I'm not sure if I did or I didn't.

Wha?


Your trip reports could easily be fiction.


No, I have witnesses.

Then again,
since you wrote them, there is a problem. You probably don't have
the
imagination necessary to fake one.

BoB

Right, I'm not a natural liar like you.

SV

Then again,
since you wrote them, there is a problem. You probably don't have the
imagination necessary to fake one.


Maybe he faked having a Siedlemann? Could he fake owning a Yugo next? Doesn't
his son drive a....

RB

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
A Sat Phone???? What the heck ?? Do you know how much a month it costs to
have a Sat Phone Activated ...... let's not even calc the rate per
call!


I'll have a small child on board. To keep the phone in standby is 90.00
per
month. I'll take that extra little safety net, thank you.

You frickin idiot... you have cell phone coverage that is ten times as
reliable as a Sat Phone!!!

How stupid are you Bob?

CM

He thinks that means taking a ****.


In that case, Scotty's his "watertank!"

RB

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...

"John Cairns" wrote

Probably because Bob hasn't done any blue-water sailing in the
Atlantic,
even though he's had ample opportunity to do so over the years, by
his own
reckoning.

What about his famous 'sail to nowhere'? I remember him bragging
about that even before he did it.

When *did* he do that, anyway?

Scotty

Don't really know much about Bob's sailing "history". I do recall him
bragging about not being a "9 to 5'er" on more than one occasion. My
thoughts have always been, if you have the time and are in a geographic
location to do a blue-water cruise, why not? I guess Joe hasn't been here
long enough to remember those posts. I suspect that Bobs done a lot less
sailing than he claimed he would.
John Cairns

My
thoughts have always been, if you have the time and are in a geographic
location to do a blue-water cruise, why not?


So, John, are we to understand that you agree with Joe's post about no boat
under 200 feet ever needing a bow thruster? Or do you agree with me that in
some cases it's needed based on the vessel and docking situation?

RB

You frickin idiot... you have cell phone coverage that is ten times as
reliable as a Sat Phone!!!

How stupid are you Bob?


Wrong, wrong, wrong. The Sat phone ALWAYS works here. ALWAYS. The cell does
not.
I like your dumb comments that are clearly based on zero experience with the
technology. I've actually had a Sat phone. Have you?

RB

BoB

Right, I'm not a natural liar like you.

Yup, we bust you EVERY time!

RB

OzOne wrote in message
You frickin idiot... you have cell phone coverage that is ten
times as
reliable as a Sat Phone!!!

How stupid are you Bob?

CM

WTF?


It's a rhetorical question, Ozzy.

Tell us Bob... what Sat Phone provider are you going to register with? No
.... please Telus!


We haven't picked one yet. My old unit was globalstar, which I actually got a
deal on at the time through my local provider. I used it for my job at the
time, but we have since switched to using the web.

RB

Way to change the subject BB.


"Bob**** the big fat LOSER" wrote ...
My
thoughts have always been, if you have the time and are in a
geographic
location to do a blue-water cruise, why not?


So, John, are we to understand that you agree with Joe's post about
no boat
under 200 feet ever needing a bow thruster? Or do you agree with me
that in
some cases it's needed based on the vessel and docking situation?

BoB

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
You frickin idiot... you have cell phone coverage that is ten times
as
reliable as a Sat Phone!!!

How stupid are you Bob?


Wrong, wrong, wrong. The Sat phone ALWAYS works here. ALWAYS.

'here', meaning in the slip.

Wrong, wrong, wrong. The Sat phone ALWAYS works here. ALWAYS.

'here', meaning in the slip.


Scotty's obsessed with women's clothing again.

RB

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Now where on the East or West Coast of the Continental US is there an area
without cellular service??

Whole sections of the LIS are without service or have poor service. I've
switched phones 3 times to attain better signals. Verizon is currently the
best. It works 75% of the time.

My sympathies on having to endure such 3rd world service in a country that
lays claim to such global power. There is no area along the coast of Nova
Scotia that does not have cellular service. You must truly live in a poverty
stricken location when cellular service is so spotty as to be unavailable
regardless of the fact that you are within line of sight of heavily
populated areas.

CM

"DSK" wrote in message
...
DD730 wrote:
I smoked blunts for 33 years, usually several times a day. I stopped
last
March and haven't had once since. Did you know that keel boats heel?

No they don't. If they heeled, it would spill the bong.

That wouldn't matter if you used the Tandem Master-Slave Unit...

CM

"John Cairns" wrote

What about his famous 'sail to nowhere'? I remember him bragging
about that even before he did it.

When *did* he do that, anyway?

Scotty

Don't really know much about Bob's sailing "history". I do recall
him
bragging about not being a "9 to 5'er" on more than one occasion. My
thoughts have always been, if you have the time and are in a
geographic
location to do a blue-water cruise, why not?

You think he's scared? Too lazy? Can't stow enough food onboard?

Given his lubbery ways and lack of sailing skills, it's probably safer
that he doesn't.



I suspect that Bobs done a lot less
sailing than he claimed he would.

he's done a lot less everything than he claims.


--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
My
thoughts have always been, if you have the time and are in a geographic
location to do a blue-water cruise, why not?


So, John, are we to understand that you agree with Joe's post about no
boat
under 200 feet ever needing a bow thruster? Or do you agree with me that
in
some cases it's needed based on the vessel and docking situation?

RB

WTF?
John Cairns

OzOne wrote in message ...
On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 22:46:06 -0000, "Donal"
scribbled thusly:

Bow thrusters on anything under a 200 footer is for people that have
no clue how to handle a boat.


Joe,

I agree with you!!!!




Regards


Donal

Ever maneuvered a 52'yacht in close quarters Donal?

No. The biggest that I've maneouvered in a tight situation is 47'.

I can tell you that having a bow thruster makes it much easier, and
gives a huge margin of safety.

I agree that a bow thruster would make life much easier.

Equally, a 260hp engine would be more convenient than a set of sails????



Regards


Donal
--

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...

"John Cairns" wrote

What about his famous 'sail to nowhere'? I remember him bragging
about that even before he did it.

When *did* he do that, anyway?

Scotty

Don't really know much about Bob's sailing "history". I do recall
him
bragging about not being a "9 to 5'er" on more than one occasion. My
thoughts have always been, if you have the time and are in a
geographic
location to do a blue-water cruise, why not?

You think he's scared? Too lazy? Can't stow enough food onboard?

Given his lubbery ways and lack of sailing skills, it's probably safer
that he doesn't.



I suspect that Bobs done a lot less
sailing than he claimed he would.

he's done a lot less everything than he claims.


--
Scott Vernon
Plowville Pa _/)__/)_/)_

Agreed.
John Cairns

some cases it's needed based on the vessel and docking situation?

RB

WTF?


Exactly.

RB

Yes... let's talk operational costs shall we... if only to substantiate your
claim to it being "inexpensive".
I have a lot of experience with Sat Phones... I use them regularly for work
related communications in extremely remote locations.

I cannot see a viable use for one on a coastal cruiser.

CM

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Tell us Bob... what Sat Phone provider are you going to register with? No
... please Telus!


We haven't picked one yet. My old unit was globalstar, which I actually
got a
deal on at the time through my local provider. I used it for my job at the
time, but we have since switched to using the web.

RB

Nutsy,

I don't like to call anyone stupid, as we all have limits to our
knowlege. However I've noticed a lot of questionable things in your post
since you aguired your "POOKA BB"

Why would you eed a watermaker if you didn't need to warrant an extented
range? If you are talking about a watermaker to replace tankage you have
to be considering a 'maker wth a power supply,
correct?

Okay Bob... that was a reactionary comment on my part....

My experience with sat phones is from their inception to current day. I have
used many sat phone communications. I have arranged for sat phone video
uplink to NYC investors on a rather viable source in the Arctic. Most of my
company vehicles have had Sat Phone and GPS technology installed years
before you were ever aware it could be done. The only other person on this
group with similar experience would be Peter Wiley.

It is a prohibitive expense to date... utilized by government agencies and
businesses that require it's range for remote operation. Vessels crossing
oceans generally lease the equipment and service.
It is not a replacement for cellular service..... not yet.

CM




"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
You frickin idiot... you have cell phone coverage that is ten times as
reliable as a Sat Phone!!!

How stupid are you Bob?


Wrong, wrong, wrong. The Sat phone ALWAYS works here. ALWAYS. The cell
does
not.
I like your dumb comments that are clearly based on zero experience with
the
technology. I've actually had a Sat phone. Have you?

RB

Nutsy,
Cont----- With a power supply a fuel source is necessary which is
another tankage problem and range LIMITER.

Talk that one over with your "FRIG--ment of imagination Pooka friend"

Ole Thom

wrote in message
Cell service is land based, and for reasons that are obvious to those with
any
understanding, cell towers are generally placed inland at a point where
they
often reach just far enough to serve those on shore. The only reason there
is
service in the LIS at all is because the signal sometimes manages to take
advantage of the clear line of site. Cell phone companies are not at all
concerned about cell coverage over water, anywhere.

You are in dire need of an update in geography and current global
technologies. You are sounding like Joe on the war in Irag. I have cell
coverage 20 miles out to sea.... anywhere on the coast.
There is no where in Nova Scotia that cannot afford me cellular coverage....


There is no place along the
coast, or inland in Nova Scotia that remotely approaches the wealth of the
land
surrounding the LIS. Not even close.

This is so stupid a statement on your part as to not require a response
Bill.!

CM

You would know "Pooka Bill" You're a creation of his strange (sic) Mind.

Did he do the race or not.

Ole Thom

Cont----- With a power supply a fuel source is necessary which is
another tankage problem and range LIMITER.

Thom, whatever are you jabbering about? People still sail without engines.

RB

You are sounding like Joe on the war in Irag. I have cell
coverage 20 miles out to sea..


Reliable coverage 20 miles from a tower? Oh, okay!

RB

coast, or inland in Nova Scotia that remotely approaches the wealth of the
land
surrounding the LIS. Not even close.

This is so stupid a statement on your part as to not require a response

Bill is right. You have no clue. Some of the property along the LIS is priced
beyond reality.

RB