In article ,
Scott Vernon wrote:
no need, my wife is fixed.


"Vito" wrote in message
...
"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
Ganz
boob
BB
vito

Get back to me when you get out of the can for practicing birth
control.

She had a lobotomy right before she married you?


--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

In article t,
Maxprop wrote:

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

The people are voting against their own best interest, in a large
measure because they are being hijacked by the mix of religion and
politics. Also, the average level of education is pretty low, not just
in the South. The combination of the two is deadly. Thus, we get Bush
for another term.

You arrogant *******. Guess I shouldn't be surprised, being an elitist
liberal and all.

Just being honest. I'm definitely arrogant and certainly an elitist
liberal. Not a *******, and I don't know what "and all" means.


--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

In article ,
Maxprop wrote:
This was the point I was attempting to make w/r/t Doug's comment yesterday:
that liberals think they are more astute than the rest of us unwashed
masses, and that they know what's good for us, despite our preferences. And
you're right--the arrogant, elitist left wing of the democrat party cost
Kerry the election.

Well, at least you got the categories right.




--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

"Scott Vernon" wrote
Are you a vampire?

No, vampires are a Christian myth IIRC.

You seem deathly afraid of Christians.

As all should be of all religious zealots for they believe anything they do
is justified. That's why there is war in the Middle East and Ireland. Let
me share one example.

My brother, a minister, and his family visited us when my daughter was a
happy bubbling fearless child of 8 years. He knew that I knew enough factual
biblical history to blow his mythology away so he asked me not to deprogram
his four kids and in return promised not to expose my daughter to his own
frightening beliefs. A few weeks after they left the school called me in for
a conference with my daughter's teacher, a counselor and a shrink. They
informed me that she had been molested. The proof? She had always been one
of the brightest kids, a leader ever eager to lead the rest in some active
game. Now overnight she had become a morose loner unwilling to go out for
recesses. Did I know why? No, I didn't. She had never been left alone with
anyone, even my brother or one of his family and a physical exam showed no
evidence of sexual assault. When questioned she cried and claimed she just
wanted to be left alone so the 'why' stayed unanswered til a relative died
and we were discussing various religions. She became agitated and finally
burst into tears "Oh daddy! I've been so frightened ever since uncle Fagan
made me a child of god!" It seems that, despite promises, the whole family
had badgered he until on the last night when her mother and I had gone to
the store, they conducted a hideous ceremony. The stripped her and dunked
her into a cold tub of water this she almost drown while they sang and
prayed! Then they put her in a chair, put their hands on her naked body, and
whaled and prayed some more. Finally they told her she was a child of god
and that all the evil sins she had participated in were washed away. But,
they admonished, if she sinned again the devil would come, carry her off on
his fork and burn her in hell forever. I did what I could but she was never
the sweet carefree child they had frightened out of her wits.

That was years ago and now she has teens of her own.

I had always tried to be tolerant of other peoples fantasies because many
draw comfort from them. Now I try to debunk their efforts to use the law to
force their worst idiocies on us all ... as they have and will again if we
let them. And no lie or deception is beneath them, as witness my own
brother. Can you imagine what it was like to be 22 years old when birth
control was illegal?

Great story V. You should make a movie of it, bob could direct, he's
got nothing better to do.

Sounds like mental illness runs in your family.

S

"Vito" wrote in message
...
"Scott Vernon" wrote
Are you a vampire?

No, vampires are a Christian myth IIRC.

You seem deathly afraid of Christians.

As all should be of all religious zealots for they believe anything
they do
is justified. That's why there is war in the Middle East and
Ireland. Let
me share one example.

My brother, a minister, and his family visited us when my daughter
was a
happy bubbling fearless child of 8 years. He knew that I knew enough
factual
biblical history to blow his mythology away so he asked me not to
deprogram
his four kids and in return promised not to expose my daughter to
his own
frightening beliefs. A few weeks after they left the school called
me in for
a conference with my daughter's teacher, a counselor and a shrink.
They
informed me that she had been molested. The proof? She had always
been one
of the brightest kids, a leader ever eager to lead the rest in some
active
game. Now overnight she had become a morose loner unwilling to go
out for
recesses. Did I know why? No, I didn't. She had never been left
alone with
anyone, even my brother or one of his family and a physical exam
showed no
evidence of sexual assault. When questioned she cried and claimed
she just
wanted to be left alone so the 'why' stayed unanswered til a
relative died
and we were discussing various religions. She became agitated and
finally
burst into tears "Oh daddy! I've been so frightened ever since uncle
Fagan
made me a child of god!" It seems that, despite promises, the whole
family
had badgered he until on the last night when her mother and I had
gone to
the store, they conducted a hideous ceremony. The stripped her and
dunked
her into a cold tub of water this she almost drown while they sang
and
prayed! Then they put her in a chair, put their hands on her naked
body, and
whaled and prayed some more. Finally they told her she was a child
of god
and that all the evil sins she had participated in were washed away.
But,
they admonished, if she sinned again the devil would come, carry her
off on
his fork and burn her in hell forever. I did what I could but she
was never
the sweet carefree child they had frightened out of her wits.

That was years ago and now she has teens of her own.

I had always tried to be tolerant of other peoples fantasies because
many
draw comfort from them. Now I try to debunk their efforts to use the
law to
force their worst idiocies on us all ... as they have and will again
if we
let them. And no lie or deception is beneath them, as witness my own
brother. Can you imagine what it was like to be 22 years old when
birth
control was illegal?

--
"Jonathan Loser Ganz" wrote
Probably too hard.

For you, yes, it would be.

My hobbies are sailing, spam cooking, and
volunteering my time for various things. Driving a truck doesn't
seem
to be much of a hobby, but at least you have something to fall back
on.


Oh, it's a lot of fun. You get to run liberal ******s driving econo
cars off the road. You can double park and tie up traffic for hours
or take up 12 parking spaces at the mall. Blasting the air horns at
midnight while blitzing through a liberal neighborhoods is
entertaining. \

SV

Oh, it's a lot of fun. You get to run liberal ******s driving econo
cars off the road. You can double park and tie up traffic for hours
or take up 12 parking spaces at the mall. Blasting the air horns at
midnight while blitzing through a liberal neighborhoods is
entertaining. \

Fun for an idiot, sure. The rest of us have real lives.

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

Get back to me when you get out of the can for practicing birth
control.

She had a lobotomy right before she married you?

Now their IQs match!

RB

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

In article ,
Maxprop wrote:
This was the point I was attempting to make w/r/t Doug's comment
yesterday:
that liberals think they are more astute than the rest of us unwashed
masses, and that they know what's good for us, despite our preferences.
And
you're right--the arrogant, elitist left wing of the democrat party cost
Kerry the election.

Well, at least you got the categories right.

Keep up that good old arrogant, Aryan liberal bull****, Jon. As long as the
dem's base is made up of people like you, the conservatives won't have a
problem holding the White House and both houses of Congress. You make it
exceedingly easy for us.

Max

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message


We're not talking about shades of grey... you claimed they are
socialists, but in fact, they're communists. You're WRONG.

I thought you elitist liberals all claim to be well-educated. Guess I was
wrong about that, at least.

Max