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Ummm... well, if the lock fails or the winch handle works its way out of the
winch (which I've seen happen), you'll lose the winch handle and the line
will go in the water. Also, if someone trips and lands on the winch handle,
that will ruin his or her vacation. I'd rather have a cracked rib on the
winch than be impaled by the handle.

I hope that helps!

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
why?

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
You also might want to consider taking the line off the winch handle
and the
stowing the handle someplace besides the winch.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
I hadn't winched up the halyard cause the wind was so light. I did
later on.

Scotty

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
What's up with the main near the gooseneck? Doesn't look right.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
Crap! I forgot the pics in the first post.

I've always said that Fall is the best time to sail the
Chesapeake
Bay. I had some absolutely beautiful weather, and only had to
sail
in
rain twice, for less than an hour each time. great winds, too.
Here's
a log book style trip report;

Oct. 3 - Sunday, needed four dock carts to carry all the 'junk'
to
the
boat. Met a guy who was crying because his wife had sold his
boat.
Sad! Very light wind, made only 2 miles and decided to anchor.
http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/470278.JPG

Oct. 4 - Monday, weigh anchor 1000, light wind, picked up in
afternoon. nice sunny day. Lost hat, did MOB drill and
recovered
it.
Anchored in Selby Bay, 2130 (39 NM) Good first day.

Oct. 5 - Tue. NOAA calling for 20-25 kt wind. yeehaw! Up
anchor
1000.
See sailboat heeled over hard on sand bar, get too close while
looking, ground on bar. Sheet in tight, heel over , get free.
How
embarrassing. Wind was around 20, South. made for a tiring
downwind
ride trying to counter steer the large following waves. Arrive
at
Solomons Island , press starter button, ...nothing. The main
battery
cable broke off above the terminal end. Jump with spare wire to
get
started, anchor at 1630. (45 NM)

Oct. 6 - Wed., Fix cable end, weigh anchor 1100. moderate, 5-10
wind.
Gorgeous day. Got chased off of firing range by a Navy boat. At
sundown saw a shore side house burn down. Anchor in Smith
Creek,
off
the Potomac River 2100. (39 NM)

Oct. 7 - Thur., Slept till noon! Pull anchor 1400. Very little
wind.
Picked up nicely after sunset. Was one of those perfect nights
for
sailing, nice breeze, billions of stars out, sailed till 0100
Fri.
morn. Tied up to work dock on Tangier Island (VA). (35 NM)

Sunset;
http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/639756.JPG
Tangier Island;
http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data/sbvernon/73220.JPG

Oct. 8 - Fri., If you look up the word 'quaint' in the
dictionary,
there should be a pic of Tangier Island. friendly folk.
Decided
to
get a slip ($20, includes elect. water, showers) and tourist it
up
for
the day.

Wonder who's buried here;
http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/734565.JPG

Oct. 9 - Sat., Leave slip 0945. Light wind, but another
gorgeous
day.
Arrive Onancock VA, 1400. Hook up with Mundo (of asa fame) and
visit
for the day. (12 NM)

Oct. 10 - Sunday, leave dock 0900, wind blowing 15-20 North, I
want
to go north. Big waves. bury the bow 3 times, 2 rouge waves
break
on
the beam and I'm soaked. Luckily it was still warm out. wild
ride.
Can't make much north progress. Duck into Great Wicomico River
and
up
the Cockrell Creek to anchor. (46 NM)

Oct. 11 - Mon., NOAA calling for the winds to die down some
later
in
the day, I wait till 1500 to pull out. Was a good decision.
Arrive
Smith Creek at 2400 (36 NM)

Oct. 12 - Tue., Weigh anchor 0800 , 10-15 North winds again.
Sail
into Little Choptank River and up Hudson Creek, drop anchor
0100.
(69 NM)

Oct. 13 - Wed., Calling for rain in the afternoon. Weigh
anchor
0730, Sun and clouds, rained for an hour , then sunny again.
Nice
wind. Arrive Annapolis 1500. Meet up with 'old' friends. (35
NM)

Oct. 14 - Thur., Sail out to watch the Schooner Race with Haggy
and
Mr. Hag as crew. Perfect day for a sail. Some really great
looking
schooners.
http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/124025.JPG
http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/340688.JPG
http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/202096.JPG
http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/982666.jpg
http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/497594.JPG
http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/868810.jpg
http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/505576.jpg
http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/827120.JPG
http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/235312.JPG

Oct. 15 - Fri., hang out in Annapolis

Oct. 16 - Sat., Calling for 20 kts sustained with gusts to 30,
BUT
from the south. I'm headed north. leave 1000, making 6-6.5
knots
hitting 7.7 surfing down waves. Arrive at home slip, Middle
River,
1500. (29 NM)

The last half mile was sad as I realized it was coming to an
end.
Great weather, great sailing.

What a great 2 weeks!

Scotty

the lock has failed. I can't get the handle out.

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Ummm... well, if the lock fails or the winch handle works its way
out of the
winch (which I've seen happen), you'll lose the winch handle and the
line
will go in the water. Also, if someone trips and lands on the winch
handle,
that will ruin his or her vacation. I'd rather have a cracked rib on
the
winch than be impaled by the handle.

I hope that helps!

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
why?

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
You also might want to consider taking the line off the winch
handle
and the
stowing the handle someplace besides the winch.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
I hadn't winched up the halyard cause the wind was so light. I
did
later on.

Scotty

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
What's up with the main near the gooseneck? Doesn't look
right.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
Crap! I forgot the pics in the first post.

I've always said that Fall is the best time to sail the
Chesapeake
Bay. I had some absolutely beautiful weather, and only had
to
sail
in
rain twice, for less than an hour each time. great winds,
too.
Here's
a log book style trip report;

Oct. 3 - Sunday, needed four dock carts to carry all the
'junk'
to
the
boat. Met a guy who was crying because his wife had sold his
boat.
Sad! Very light wind, made only 2 miles and decided to
anchor.
http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/470278.JPG

Oct. 4 - Monday, weigh anchor 1000, light wind, picked up in
afternoon. nice sunny day. Lost hat, did MOB drill and
recovered
it.
Anchored in Selby Bay, 2130 (39 NM) Good first day.

Oct. 5 - Tue. NOAA calling for 20-25 kt wind. yeehaw! Up
anchor
1000.
See sailboat heeled over hard on sand bar, get too close
while
looking, ground on bar. Sheet in tight, heel over , get
free.
How
embarrassing. Wind was around 20, South. made for a tiring
downwind
ride trying to counter steer the large following waves.
Arrive
at
Solomons Island , press starter button, ...nothing. The
main
battery
cable broke off above the terminal end. Jump with spare wire
to
get
started, anchor at 1630. (45 NM)

Oct. 6 - Wed., Fix cable end, weigh anchor 1100. moderate,
5-10
wind.
Gorgeous day. Got chased off of firing range by a Navy boat.
At
sundown saw a shore side house burn down. Anchor in Smith
Creek,
off
the Potomac River 2100. (39 NM)

Oct. 7 - Thur., Slept till noon! Pull anchor 1400. Very
little
wind.
Picked up nicely after sunset. Was one of those perfect
nights
for
sailing, nice breeze, billions of stars out, sailed till
0100
Fri.
morn. Tied up to work dock on Tangier Island (VA). (35 NM)

Sunset;
http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/639756.JPG
Tangier Island;
http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data/sbvernon/73220.JPG

Oct. 8 - Fri., If you look up the word 'quaint' in the
dictionary,
there should be a pic of Tangier Island. friendly folk.
Decided
to
get a slip ($20, includes elect. water, showers) and tourist
it
up
for
the day.

Wonder who's buried here;
http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/734565.JPG

Oct. 9 - Sat., Leave slip 0945. Light wind, but another
gorgeous
day.
Arrive Onancock VA, 1400. Hook up with Mundo (of asa fame)
and
visit
for the day. (12 NM)

Oct. 10 - Sunday, leave dock 0900, wind blowing 15-20 North,
I
want
to go north. Big waves. bury the bow 3 times, 2 rouge waves
break
on
the beam and I'm soaked. Luckily it was still warm out. wild
ride.
Can't make much north progress. Duck into Great Wicomico
River
and
up
the Cockrell Creek to anchor. (46 NM)

Oct. 11 - Mon., NOAA calling for the winds to die down some
later
in
the day, I wait till 1500 to pull out. Was a good decision.
Arrive
Smith Creek at 2400 (36 NM)

Oct. 12 - Tue., Weigh anchor 0800 , 10-15 North winds
again.
Sail
into Little Choptank River and up Hudson Creek, drop anchor
0100.
(69 NM)

Oct. 13 - Wed., Calling for rain in the afternoon. Weigh
anchor
0730, Sun and clouds, rained for an hour , then sunny again.
Nice
wind. Arrive Annapolis 1500. Meet up with 'old' friends.
(35
NM)

Oct. 14 - Thur., Sail out to watch the Schooner Race with
Haggy
and
Mr. Hag as crew. Perfect day for a sail. Some really great
looking
schooners.
http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/124025.JPG
http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/340688.JPG
http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/202096.JPG
http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/982666.jpg
http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/497594.JPG
http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/868810.jpg
http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/505576.jpg
http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/827120.JPG
http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/235312.JPG

Oct. 15 - Fri., hang out in Annapolis

Oct. 16 - Sat., Calling for 20 kts sustained with gusts to
30,
BUT
from the south. I'm headed north. leave 1000, making 6-6.5
knots
hitting 7.7 surfing down waves. Arrive at home slip, Middle
River,
1500. (29 NM)

The last half mile was sad as I realized it was coming to an
end.
Great weather, great sailing.

What a great 2 weeks!

Scotty

Why? is a good question. For a layout that brings all lines back to the
Cockpit, that is a good way to keep loose line out of the way

That is a neat layout of winches. How about telling us about them,
Scotty?

Ole Thom

Jon,

Not thinking to well. If there is that much line on the handle the Main
must be up. If it is up, probably means your sailing. (No engine) Line
over the side should be no problem. better than walking over it in the
cockpit or getting your feet tangled in it

I'm inclined to agree with you about the handle left in the winch. I was
taught that, but that was about Sheet winches, which are more active
winches. It has carried over on to all winches. In all honesty,Jon, I've
lost more handles in the act off inserting and removing them from the
winches. In fact, in 58 years of sailing I can't remember ever losing a
winch handle any other way. Can you? I've lost my share of them too!!

Ole Thom

You need to get that fixed!

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
the lock has failed. I can't get the handle out.

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
Ummm... well, if the lock fails or the winch handle works its way
out of the
winch (which I've seen happen), you'll lose the winch handle and the
line
will go in the water. Also, if someone trips and lands on the winch
handle,
that will ruin his or her vacation. I'd rather have a cracked rib on
the
winch than be impaled by the handle.

I hope that helps!

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
why?

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
You also might want to consider taking the line off the winch
handle
and the
stowing the handle someplace besides the winch.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
I hadn't winched up the halyard cause the wind was so light. I
did
later on.

Scotty

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
What's up with the main near the gooseneck? Doesn't look
right.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
Crap! I forgot the pics in the first post.

I've always said that Fall is the best time to sail the
Chesapeake
Bay. I had some absolutely beautiful weather, and only had
to
sail
in
rain twice, for less than an hour each time. great winds,
too.
Here's
a log book style trip report;

Oct. 3 - Sunday, needed four dock carts to carry all the
'junk'
to
the
boat. Met a guy who was crying because his wife had sold his
boat.
Sad! Very light wind, made only 2 miles and decided to
anchor.
http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/470278.JPG

Oct. 4 - Monday, weigh anchor 1000, light wind, picked up in
afternoon. nice sunny day. Lost hat, did MOB drill and
recovered
it.
Anchored in Selby Bay, 2130 (39 NM) Good first day.

Oct. 5 - Tue. NOAA calling for 20-25 kt wind. yeehaw! Up
anchor
1000.
See sailboat heeled over hard on sand bar, get too close
while
looking, ground on bar. Sheet in tight, heel over , get
free.
How
embarrassing. Wind was around 20, South. made for a tiring
downwind
ride trying to counter steer the large following waves.
Arrive
at
Solomons Island , press starter button, ...nothing. The
main
battery
cable broke off above the terminal end. Jump with spare wire
to
get
started, anchor at 1630. (45 NM)

Oct. 6 - Wed., Fix cable end, weigh anchor 1100. moderate,
5-10
wind.
Gorgeous day. Got chased off of firing range by a Navy boat.
At
sundown saw a shore side house burn down. Anchor in Smith
Creek,
off
the Potomac River 2100. (39 NM)

Oct. 7 - Thur., Slept till noon! Pull anchor 1400. Very
little
wind.
Picked up nicely after sunset. Was one of those perfect
nights
for
sailing, nice breeze, billions of stars out, sailed till
0100
Fri.
morn. Tied up to work dock on Tangier Island (VA). (35 NM)

Sunset;
http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/639756.JPG
Tangier Island;
http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data/sbvernon/73220.JPG

Oct. 8 - Fri., If you look up the word 'quaint' in the
dictionary,
there should be a pic of Tangier Island. friendly folk.
Decided
to
get a slip ($20, includes elect. water, showers) and tourist
it
up
for
the day.

Wonder who's buried here;
http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/734565.JPG

Oct. 9 - Sat., Leave slip 0945. Light wind, but another
gorgeous
day.
Arrive Onancock VA, 1400. Hook up with Mundo (of asa fame)
and
visit
for the day. (12 NM)

Oct. 10 - Sunday, leave dock 0900, wind blowing 15-20 North,
I
want
to go north. Big waves. bury the bow 3 times, 2 rouge waves
break
on
the beam and I'm soaked. Luckily it was still warm out. wild
ride.
Can't make much north progress. Duck into Great Wicomico
River
and
up
the Cockrell Creek to anchor. (46 NM)

Oct. 11 - Mon., NOAA calling for the winds to die down some
later
in
the day, I wait till 1500 to pull out. Was a good decision.
Arrive
Smith Creek at 2400 (36 NM)

Oct. 12 - Tue., Weigh anchor 0800 , 10-15 North winds
again.
Sail
into Little Choptank River and up Hudson Creek, drop anchor
0100.
(69 NM)

Oct. 13 - Wed., Calling for rain in the afternoon. Weigh
anchor
0730, Sun and clouds, rained for an hour , then sunny again.
Nice
wind. Arrive Annapolis 1500. Meet up with 'old' friends.
(35
NM)

Oct. 14 - Thur., Sail out to watch the Schooner Race with
Haggy
and
Mr. Hag as crew. Perfect day for a sail. Some really great
looking
schooners.
http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/124025.JPG
http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/340688.JPG
http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/202096.JPG
http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/982666.jpg
http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/497594.JPG
http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/868810.jpg
http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/505576.jpg
http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/827120.JPG
http://www.enter.net/photoalbum/data...non/235312.JPG

Oct. 15 - Fri., hang out in Annapolis

Oct. 16 - Sat., Calling for 20 kts sustained with gusts to
30,
BUT
from the south. I'm headed north. leave 1000, making 6-6.5
knots
hitting 7.7 surfing down waves. Arrive at home slip, Middle
River,
1500. (29 NM)

The last half mile was sad as I realized it was coming to an
end.
Great weather, great sailing.

What a great 2 weeks!

Scotty

Thom, you're not thinking clearly. If you're sailing and you need to
start the engine, then you discover there's a line in the water, you
could be in trouble. It's not a matter of hanging there or being
underfoot. Neither is acceptable.

I've seen them come out. I've seen people fall on winches, but
never on the handles (because they were removed).

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Jon,

Not thinking to well. If there is that much line on the handle the Main
must be up. If it is up, probably means your sailing. (No engine) Line
over the side should be no problem. better than walking over it in the
cockpit or getting your feet tangled in it

I'm inclined to agree with you about the handle left in the winch. I was
taught that, but that was about Sheet winches, which are more active
winches. It has carried over on to all winches. In all honesty,Jon, I've
lost more handles in the act off inserting and removing them from the
winches. In fact, in 58 years of sailing I can't remember ever losing a
winch handle any other way. Can you? I've lost my share of them too!!

Ole Thom

It's not a good way. A good way is to have it properly stowed.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Why? is a good question. For a layout that brings all lines back to the
Cockpit, that is a good way to keep loose line out of the way

That is a neat layout of winches. How about telling us about them,
Scotty?

Ole Thom

Simple, really. There's a 2 speed, self tailer on each coaming for
the jib sheets. Easy to reach from behind or in front of the wheel. A
smaller winch on the cabin top for 3 lines, main halyard, swing keel,
spare jib halyard, led from a triple clutch .

Scotty

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Why? is a good question. For a layout that brings all lines back to
the
Cockpit, that is a good way to keep loose line out of the way

That is a neat layout of winches. How about telling us about them,
Scotty?

Ole Thom