BWAHAHAHAHA! Express FAILED. C&C remains one of the most respected builders
of
the 70's and 80's. Most people and I do mean MOST never heard of Express.

At least Express only failed once.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"Trains are a winter sport"

Express was a spinoff that failed for a variety of reasons:

They failed when many others went under. S2, a highly regarded builder went
under at the same time. What was their problem? Nothing except the mid
eighties economy.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"Trains are a winter sport"

I think the hard edges of the Express were too harsh
for many and while the Express looks C&Cish, I don't think it's as attractive.
Below decks C&C was doing a very nice job in the mid 80s and the Express did
not win over many people below decks, especially families.

LOL............................ Where do you get this stuff???? Were you at
boat shows at the time interviewing people? I'd be willing to bet that in say
1984 Express sold more boats than C&C. Why don't you check that out.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"Trains are a winter sport"

see?


I don't think it's as attractive.
Below decks C&C was doing a very nice job in the mid 80s and the
Express did
not win over many people below decks, especially families and slip
queens.

Address each of these and we'll be off to a start....

Got a dressing table in the forward cabin with three drawers and table top that
can hold a TV? - That's your two feet.

Double that's over 6'6? - got it

Dinette that doesn't force you to eat at restaurants? - got it

Nav desk with 3 large storage cuddys and three drawers?
Nav desk with enclosed hutch and upper shelf for instruments? - got it

5" closed cell cushions? - 6"

Hot and cold water in head and galley with seawater pumps? - got it

Seperate pumps for shower and fridge? - shower yes.

Do you even have a fridge or just a box? - anybody can add a fridge.

Steel handholds integrated with virtually every bit of furniture including
tables, sink, dinette and so on!? - what? The express has full length
handholds plus a steel rail in the galley to clip onto.

I hope you have a teak sole! - yep

All deck gear mounting hardware hidden beneath access panels? - got it.

6 reading lights, 4 overheads, galley light, nav light, quarterberth light and
engine compartment light??? - got it, even the engine compartment.

So as I posted previously you have 2' more room and they put a dressing table
in the forward cabin. You still don't have a proper sea berth. Gee I guess a
dressing table makes up for that. Probably great for changing diapers. Yours
or the babys.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"Trains are a winter sport"

see?

The Boobster is the guy the reps chuckle at at the boat show. He's the nitwit
that gets on every boat sticks his head down the companionway and blurts out
"how many will she sleep"
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"Trains are a winter sport"

SAIL LOCO wrote:
Boobie, would it make you feel better or boost your low self esteeme if we all
said we are on pins and needles waiting to see your new boats interior?

That'd probably help... do you think we can get a commission from his
therapist?

Meanwhile, I'm on the edge of my seat waiting for details about his
on-board electronic entertainment center... maybe he has a good set-up
for playing "Wave Racer" right in the boat!

DSK

Damn shame MP. My Beemer days ended when three idiots put me in the
hospital three times in one year. Nothing to do with the bike just got
disgusted over idito drivers who couldn't see bright yellow etc. even if
they bothered to look. The culprits, all whom statedthey 'didn't see me?
Fell into three categories 1) too damn old to be driving 2) too young and
too busy fiddling with make up 3) John Rocker's favorite an oriental with a
cellphone. Come to think of the exact same categories that caused most of
the problems when I was flagging traffic.

M.


"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...

"Maxprop" wrote in


I don't. I ride a BMW. But that's about to come to an end.

Why?

Got a dressing table in the forward cabin with three drawers and table top that
can hold a TV? - That's your two feet.

Yep, so we have a real forward cabin and you don't.
Now, do you have a seperate head or is it open to the V????

RB

Dinette that doesn't force you to eat at restaurants? - got it


You're boat is the dinette layout that Thom as bashing? Oh.

RB