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SAIL LOCO October 17th 04 05:18 AM

We're all still waiting for a pic, Loco. Until then you're just blowing hot
air
into a crappy interior!

LOL.................. Your just like your man Kerry. He has a plan. You have
a plan that your interior is better but you never state why.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"Trains are a winter sport"

SAIL LOCO October 17th 04 05:20 AM

Are you now upgrading to a C&C, Loco?.

The Boob can't even follow a thread as to who is posting what.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"Trains are a winter sport"

SAIL LOCO October 17th 04 05:23 AM

Hey idiot, don't you realize that the Express was
a semi-custom boat? .

The Boob says he's seen 6 Express interiors but the only one he ever refers to
was the one on Yacht World that the owner replaced the dining table with the
all white table. Plus that was a very early hull that looked well worn.
The Boob is still a boob.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"Trains are a winter sport"

Bobsprit October 17th 04 05:34 AM

The Boob says he's seen 6 Express interiors but the only one he ever refers to
was the one on Yacht World that the owner replaced the dining table with the
all white table. Plus that was a very early hull that looked well worn.


Poor Loco. At that point in time I posted pics from a website that was not part
of Yachtworld. Steve also had pics of his interior which were hardly
impressive. You keep making claims, but refuse to post a simple pic to back
them up.
It's obvious that you don't dare post a pic and everyone and anyone can
understand why.

RB

Bobsprit October 17th 04 05:35 AM

We're all still waiting for a pic, Loco. Until then you're just blowing hot
air
into a crappy interior!

LOL.................. Your just like your man Kerry.


I posted a pic showing my boat's interior. You didn't.
You lost.

Buh bye!!!

RB

SAIL LOCO October 17th 04 05:59 AM

I posted a pic showing my boat's interior. You didn't.
You lost.

LOL............... The picture shows nothing unusual or "upscale" I will admit
it's better than the purple interior in Neil's boat. The funny thing here is
you and that other idiot are the only people that ever boasted about their
interiors.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"Trains are a winter sport"

SAIL LOCO October 17th 04 06:02 AM

You keep making claims, but refuse to post a simple pic to back
them up.
It's obvious that you don't dare post a pic and everyone and anyone can
understand why.

LOL................. I never claimed anything. You claimed your old fashon
interior was better but NEVER posted what made it better. Hell, your outdated
interior doesn't even have a sea berth. Something all seagoing sailboats have.
And once again as I already posted I have pictures of my boat actually sailing.
I never thought to take interior pictures.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"Trains are a winter sport"

Bobsprit October 17th 04 11:28 AM

You claimed your old fashon
interior was better but NEVER posted what made it better.


Again....now for the FOURTH TIME....


Alien's interior has a great layout, more room, nicer finish, more
storage....EVERY table and fitting below has a hand-hold. The Express?
Do you have the dinette or this?
http://newimages.yachtworld.com/1/2/9/1/2/1291230_8.jpg
Do you have the enclosed or open head?

RB

No more Pony October 17th 04 11:51 AM

I posted pics of Pony's interior? I don't think
so.
S.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
: The Boob says he's seen 6 Express interiors but
the only one he ever refers to
: was the one on Yacht World that the owner
replaced the dining table with the
: all white table. Plus that was a very early
hull that looked well worn.
:
:
: Poor Loco. At that point in time I posted pics
from a website that was not part
: of Yachtworld. Steve also had pics of his
interior which were hardly
: impressive. You keep making claims, but refuse
to post a simple pic to back
: them up.
: It's obvious that you don't dare post a pic and
everyone and anyone can
: understand why.
:
: RB


SAIL LOCO October 17th 04 03:54 PM

Alien's interior has a great layout, more room, nicer finish, more
storage....EVERY table and fitting below has a hand-hold. The Express?
Do you have the dinette or this?

More room - probably.
Great layout - for you maybe.
nicer finish - How?
More storage - says who? Where are your tanks?
The Express in the picture has it's table removed. Every Express has a dining
table. Express Yachts just made it easy to remove.
You ain't won yet.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"Trains are a winter sport"

Horvath October 17th 04 05:52 PM

On 17 Oct 2004 04:59:13 GMT, (SAIL LOCO) wrote this
crap:

I posted a pic showing my boat's interior. You didn't.
You lost.

LOL............... The picture shows nothing unusual or "upscale" I will admit
it's better than the purple interior in Neil's boat. The funny thing here is
you and that other idiot are the only people that ever boasted about their
interiors.


Here's a picture of my interior:

http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi...&&ywo=newwave&

And one mo

http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi...&&ywo=newwave&




Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

Donal October 18th 04 12:34 AM


wrote in message
...
On 13 Oct 2004 20:37:54 GMT, (Bobsprit) wrote:

Loco is going to **** a
pumpkin!


Wow! You'd have to find a pretty big asshole to do that!


Are you volunteering?



regards

Donal
--




Bobsprit October 18th 04 12:59 AM

I posted pics of Pony's interior? I don't think
so.

Your website had pics showing interior.

RB

Bobsprit October 18th 04 01:02 AM

The Express in the picture has it's table removed. Every Express has a dining
table. Express Yachts just made it easy to remove.
You ain't won yet.

You mean a table SMACK in the middle of the cabin? Awful. Our dinette is simply
more functional allowing 4 people to have a meal without closing off the whole
boat.
And the table lowers to turn into a very large double.
There is no question that the 32 has more storage. Do you have the head open to
the V or enclosed?

RB

No more Pony October 18th 04 01:22 AM

I don't think so. What color were the cushions?
S.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
: I posted pics of Pony's interior? I don't think
: so.
:
: Your website had pics showing interior.
:
: RB


Nav October 18th 04 01:59 AM


Highly forgettable?

Cheers

I don't think so. What color were the cushions?
S.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
: I posted pics of Pony's interior? I don't think
: so.
:
: Your website had pics showing interior.
:
: RB



Scott Vernon October 18th 04 02:00 AM


"Maxprop" wrote in


I don't. I ride a BMW. But that's about to come to an end.


Why?





No more Pony October 18th 04 02:43 AM

Yes, or at least I'm trying.
S.

"Nav" wrote in message
...
:
: Highly forgettable?
:
: Cheers
:
: I don't think so. What color were the
cushions?
: S.
:
: "Bobsprit" wrote in message
:
...
: : I posted pics of Pony's interior? I don't
think
: : so.
: :
: : Your website had pics showing interior.
: :
: : RB
:
:


SAIL LOCO October 18th 04 04:29 AM

You mean a table SMACK in the middle of the cabin? Awful. Our dinette is
simply
more functional allowing 4 people to have a meal without closing off the whole
boat.

Like ALL boats with a centerline dining table the Express's table has folding
leafs. It ain't a problem. Plus it is removable.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"Trains are a winter sport"

Scott Vernon October 18th 04 04:33 AM


"SAIL LOCO" wrote in message
...
You mean a table SMACK in the middle of the cabin? Awful. Our

dinette is
simply
more functional allowing 4 people to have a meal without closing off

the whole
boat.

Like ALL boats with a centerline dining table the Express's table

has folding
leafs. It ain't a problem.


unless you're ass is 4' wide.




Maxprop October 18th 04 05:14 AM


"Scott Vernon" wrote in message

"Maxprop" wrote in


I don't. I ride a BMW. But that's about to come to an end.


Why?


Rancor toward the company. They've put two successive dealerships in our
area out of business within the past 4 years. They essentially set them up
to fail. Their corporate expectations for dealerships are unrealistic,
placing the dealer in a barely workable situation during excellent economic
times, and in an unworkable situation during less-than-ideal economic times.
So now we once again have no dealership in our area. Owners in my area must
now travel 150 miles or more to get their bikes serviced. And BMW USA
couldn't give a rat's ass.

While on the subject of BMW, have you seen the truly ugly cars BMW has been
turning out from the drawing board of Chris Bangle (Bungle)? No doubt our
current 323Ci will be the last BMW auto we own as well.

Max



Horvath October 18th 04 05:35 AM

On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 07:22:19 +1000, OzOne wrote this crap:

On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 12:52:05 -0400, Horvath
scribbled thusly:



Here's a picture of my interior:

http://www.yachtworld.com/core/listi...&&ywo=newwave&




Wild party onboard Holly?
Who smashed the port?



Port? That was a fine burgundy that was spilled.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

gonefishiing October 18th 04 05:41 AM

now now...........a good port is a fine thing.
stayed in king henry's fortelizza in the south of portugal
and a fine port was the thing to have while looking out towards sea across
Sagres.
ain't a finer sight in the world.
gf.


"Horvath" wrote in message
...
Port? That was a fine burgundy that was spilled.




Bobsprit October 18th 04 11:40 AM

Like ALL boats with a centerline dining table the Express's table has folding
leafs. It ain't a problem.

Right, need to get through? Everyone picks up their food, plates and drinks,
lower a leef and your done. How nice.

RB

Bobsprit October 18th 04 11:41 AM

Loco, Does your boat have the head open to the V? Or is it the version with a
fully enclosed head?

RB

Scott Vernon October 18th 04 03:46 PM

Well, what would you expect from a German co.? My R100S broke a gear
in the tranny this summer. Another winter project. You're not getting
a gag Harley, are you?

I did see a BMW car that reminded me of the hull on a Mac26X. And I
still don't understand the concept of a ''luxury'' SUV. And what's
with the ''bigger is better'' routine with the truck / SUV crowd?
Soon I'll be in style while driving the Pete to the grocery store.

Scotty



"Maxprop" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message

"Maxprop" wrote in


I don't. I ride a BMW. But that's about to come to an end.


Why?


Rancor toward the company. They've put two successive dealerships

in our
area out of business within the past 4 years. They essentially set

them up
to fail. Their corporate expectations for dealerships are

unrealistic,
placing the dealer in a barely workable situation during excellent

economic
times, and in an unworkable situation during less-than-ideal

economic times.
So now we once again have no dealership in our area. Owners in my

area must
now travel 150 miles or more to get their bikes serviced. And BMW

USA
couldn't give a rat's ass.

While on the subject of BMW, have you seen the truly ugly cars BMW

has been
turning out from the drawing board of Chris Bangle (Bungle)? No

doubt our
current 323Ci will be the last BMW auto we own as well.

Max





Thom Stewart October 18th 04 06:58 PM

Nutsy,

I had one boat with a Dinette Lay-out. My first sailboat with a cabin. I
swore it would be my last. I've been true to that.

A Dinette is great when at anchor or in a slip or on a power boat. On a
Sailboat, in a heeled position, it is a waste of space.

In fact, I kind of feel the same way about any table when a boat in
heeled. Classic or Dinette layout. When you're heeled, Dining graciously
is out of the question. It is a one hand to hold and one the feed, a
seat to wedge into. This wedge part is a hell of a lot easier in a
classic layout. Getting rid of the table is a big plus.

That's this fat, old man feelings. For what its worth.

Ole Thom


Bobsprit October 18th 04 10:07 PM

A Dinette is great when at anchor or in a slip or on a power boat. On a
Sailboat, in a heeled position, it is a waste of space.

What ever are you talking about? Why aren't you on deck when sailing? Underway
we find the quarter berth snug and secure if either of us wants a nap.. At
anchor the dinette is simply fantastic and is far nicer. It also opens to a
very large double. It never blocks off the whole cabin. Sadly, our next boat
has no dinette. Most large boats have a dinette including a Swan 48. Waste of
space? Don't think so!

RB

Bobsprit October 18th 04 10:11 PM

In fact, I kind of feel the same way about any table when a boat in
heeled. Classic or Dinette layout.

What exactly is the table wasting underway. We find it easy to eat at the table
unless we are VERY heeled and then we're on deck anyway. Aboard Alien, 4 people
can eat and someone can use the head or go forward for sleep without climbing.
Nice. Short of striking table altogether, the dinette is a friend we'll miss.

RB

Thom Stewart October 18th 04 10:54 PM

Nutsy,

For the way you sail, and this isn't a criticism, a boat on a voyage
under sail doesn't need a dinette. Sitting at a 15 degree side slant or
better doesn't make for comfortable eating or even just sitting.

When I brought "Pneuma" she had the most beautiful teak drop leaf table
you would ever see. I said take it out. I had more damn trouble getting
them to remove that damn table than you could imagine. They insisted
that I needed a table. I said, then make a table I can bolt to the wall.
They responded that they could make a hinge table that would swing up
but it wouldn't be much of a table. My reply; "Would it hold two
dishes?" That is what we settled on. I'm happy and I have the Cabin
room I wanted, with the Inside Steering Station

Ole Thom


Maxprop October 18th 04 11:37 PM


"Scott Vernon" wrote in message

Well, what would you expect from a German co.?


About that, I suppose. Thank God the French don't produce motor vehicles
worth being sold here.

My R100S broke a gear
in the tranny this summer. Another winter project. You're not getting
a gag Harley, are you?


An old airhead, probably. My favorite is the R100R, circa '94. I can do
all the work on an airhead. These damned oilheads literally require BMW's
computer diagnostic system to do anything, simple or major.


I did see a BMW car that reminded me of the hull on a Mac26X.


That would be the new 5-Series car. A beaut, aint' she?

And I
still don't understand the concept of a ''luxury'' SUV. And what's
with the ''bigger is better'' routine with the truck / SUV crowd?
Soon I'll be in style while driving the Pete to the grocery store.


Be sure to leave the box attached. And don't park next to a Ford
Excursion--it'll make the Pete look smallish.

Max



Donal October 19th 04 12:26 AM


wrote in message
...
On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 00:34:41 +0100, "Donal" wrote:
wrote in message
Wow! You'd have to find a pretty big asshole to do that!


Are you volunteering?

Wouldn't want to steal your only thunder, dunder!


Why are you so evasive?



Regards

Donal
--




Donal October 19th 04 12:30 AM


"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...

Like ALL boats with a centerline dining table the Express's table

has folding
leafs. It ain't a problem.


unless you're ass is 4' wide.


I always wondered why Bob didn't like the Express - now I know why!


Regards

Donal
--




Scott Vernon October 19th 04 12:37 AM

My table folds up to the bulkhead. I like that style. Never use the
table while I'm sailing.

Scotty


"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Nutsy,

For the way you sail, and this isn't a criticism, a boat on a voyage
under sail doesn't need a dinette. Sitting at a 15 degree side slant

or
better doesn't make for comfortable eating or even just sitting.

When I brought "Pneuma" she had the most beautiful teak drop leaf

table
you would ever see. I said take it out. I had more damn trouble

getting
them to remove that damn table than you could imagine. They insisted
that I needed a table. I said, then make a table I can bolt to the

wall.
They responded that they could make a hinge table that would swing

up
but it wouldn't be much of a table. My reply; "Would it hold two
dishes?" That is what we settled on. I'm happy and I have the Cabin
room I wanted, with the Inside Steering Station

Ole Thom




Bobsprit October 19th 04 12:41 AM

For the way you sail, and this isn't a criticism, a boat on a voyage
under sail doesn't need a dinette.

And yet they are very popular for some. We like the dinette setup. Some prefer
the classic arangement. I've owned both and Alien's layout works best for us.

RB

Bobsprit October 19th 04 12:41 AM

That is what we settled on. I'm happy and I have the Cabin
room I wanted,


We have the dinette AND the cabin room we wanted.

RB

Scott Vernon October 19th 04 12:53 AM


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
That is what we settled on. I'm happy and I have the Cabin
room I wanted,


We have the dinette AND the cabin room we wanted.



Thus the subject header.



Horvath October 19th 04 01:21 AM

On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 10:58:49 -0700, (Thom Stewart)
wrote this crap:

Nutsy,

I had one boat with a Dinette Lay-out. My first sailboat with a cabin. I
swore it would be my last. I've been true to that.

A Dinette is great when at anchor or in a slip or on a power boat. On a
Sailboat, in a heeled position, it is a waste of space.



Few people go below while heeled. We sit around the dinette and watch
television while at the dock.




Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

gonefishiing October 19th 04 01:21 AM

hey Bob,
we (almost) never use the table while underway
it stays in the folded position ( on a pearson 30 this just makes sense)
and one reason follows:
now that you're a dad, you'll realize not everyone should be on deck when
things are happening.
a couple of years ago we were returning from a 10 day trip.
it was late fall and blowing like stink and i sent the kids below.
my mistake was not having them sit on the leeward (port) side. (below deck
ballast :))
we were hit by a moderate gust on a closehaul which launched the kids across
the cabin (starboard to port)
airborn.
had the table been down, i am pretty certain someone would have been
injured.

the times it has been used is when we are drifting about on a hot day and
the kids need a break from the sun, lunch, game of poker, etc.

gf.


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
A Dinette is great when at anchor or in a slip or on a power boat. On a
Sailboat, in a heeled position, it is a waste of space.

What ever are you talking about? Why aren't you on deck when sailing?
Underway
we find the quarter berth snug and secure if either of us wants a nap.. At
anchor the dinette is simply fantastic and is far nicer. It also opens to
a
very large double. It never blocks off the whole cabin. Sadly, our next
boat
has no dinette. Most large boats have a dinette including a Swan 48. Waste
of
space? Don't think so!

RB




Jonathan Ganz October 19th 04 02:21 AM

Since you never sail in conditions that would heel your boat, I'm sure you
spend most of your time below with your boyfriend.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 10:58:49 -0700, (Thom Stewart)
wrote this crap:

Nutsy,

I had one boat with a Dinette Lay-out. My first sailboat with a cabin. I
swore it would be my last. I've been true to that.

A Dinette is great when at anchor or in a slip or on a power boat. On a
Sailboat, in a heeled position, it is a waste of space.



Few people go below while heeled. We sit around the dinette and watch
television while at the dock.




Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!





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