We sort of had to do that once on a Beneteau in BVI. The transmission
wouldn't
engage, so I had my friend head first in the engine compartment shifting
into forward
then out of gear for us. Loads of fun!

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"John Cairns" wrote in message
om...
Trying to remember the model of boat, but the emergency tiller was steered
from the aft cabin!!!!
John Cairns
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
We have plugs and duct tape/plastic onboard. The real joke is
the "emergency tiller." It would only take about 1/2 hour to get
the damn thing on. We tried it one day at the dock, what a joke.
(This was on a Yamaha 30.)

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www.sailnow.com

"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
Maxprop wrote:
Obviously the plugs should be fairly soft, such as basswood, pine, or
soft
maple (which is actually a hardwood, but a softer one). But those
woods are
prone to rot, if allowed to remain damp for periods. Soak them in some
sort
of oil, such as linseed, before storing them. Or you can make them
from
teak, but they'll be more difficult to keep in a thru-hull after
driving
them in.

Frankly, I think duct tape and a trash bag is a lot more useful than a
plug. If a seacock breaks, it is unlikely to leave a nice neat round
hole to drive a plug in. But who am I to argue with age-old tradition?

DSK

On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 02:32:20 GMT, "katysails"
wrote this crap:

That's why you need rags....you jam a rag in and then jam the plug in and
the rag fills in the edges.....old socks would work good, too....or grundy
undies....

Who wears "undies" on a boat?





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 19:38:09 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

We sort of had to do that once on a Beneteau in BVI. The transmission
wouldn't
engage, so I had my friend head first in the engine compartment shifting
into forward
then out of gear for us. Loads of fun!


You had your friend giving you head on your gearshift? That's one of
the gayest posts you've ever had.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

"Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 02:32:20 GMT, "katysails"
wrote this crap:

That's why you need rags....you jam a rag in and then jam the plug
in and
the rag fills in the edges.....old socks would work good, too....or
grundy
undies....

Who wears "undies" on a boat?

That's all I wear.

Scotty

John Cairns wrote:
Trying to remember the model of boat, but the emergency tiller was steered
from the aft cabin!!!!

The O'Day 37 and Whitby 42 are like that... probably true of many
aft-cabin boats.

Emergency steering is a sore point on many boats. The emergency tiller
is difficult to connect, the connection is not as strong as it should be
(especially considering that it will most likely be used under strenuous
conditions), the tiller too short without enough mechanical advantage
(ditto parenthetical note above), and obstructions in the cockpit
prevent the emergency tiller from being swung thru a proper arc for
steering. For most boats, the emergency steering is a poor afterthought.

Serious racers are somewhat better in that regard, it's a requirement
for ORC Cat 1 & 2... wouldn't it be cool to require one race out of a
major series be held with all boats using emergency steering? It'd be an
eye-opener I bet.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

"katysails" wrote in message ...
I'd jam all the bedding into it first and then get a sail and do the under
the hull thing.....

Isnt you boat a full keeler? If so how the sail under the hull thing gonna work?

Joe




"Joe" wrote in message
om...
DSK wrote in message
...
Maxprop wrote:
Obviously the plugs should be fairly soft, such as basswood, pine, or
soft
maple (which is actually a hardwood, but a softer one). But those
woods are
prone to rot, if allowed to remain damp for periods. Soak them in
some sort
of oil, such as linseed, before storing them. Or you can make them
from
teak, but they'll be more difficult to keep in a thru-hull after
driving
them in.

Frankly, I think duct tape and a trash bag is a lot more useful than a
plug. If a seacock breaks, it is unlikely to leave a nice neat round
hole to drive a plug in. But who am I to argue with age-old tradition?

DSK


Sounds like a good ideal Doug, but I would only add duct tape and
bags to my DC kit. Plugs are great to use from the outside in. That
way if you have a spare valve and threading gear you can fix a busted
thru hull offshore.

I think thru hulls are an easy fix. What I would worry about is tears
or long holes caused by something like smaking the corner of a
submerged container or sharp reef. How would you fix lets say a 2
inch wide 14" long hole?

Joe

Joe

Scott Vernon wrote:



That's all I wear.

Scotty


TMI

Cheers
Marty


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In article ,
Horvath wrote:
My friend gave me head on my gearshift? That's one of
the gayest times I've ever had.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!


--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

In article ,
Horvath wrote:
On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 02:32:20 GMT, "katysails"
wrote this crap:

That's why you need rags....you jam a rag in and then jam the plug in and
the rag fills in the edges.....old socks would work good, too....or grundy
undies....

Who wears "undies" on a boat?

Apparently neither you nor your boyfriend.

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

How do you think a seacock breaks?

Cheers

DSK wrote:

Maxprop wrote:

Obviously the plugs should be fairly soft, such as basswood, pine, or
soft
maple (which is actually a hardwood, but a softer one). But those
woods are
prone to rot, if allowed to remain damp for periods. Soak them in
some sort
of oil, such as linseed, before storing them. Or you can make them from
teak, but they'll be more difficult to keep in a thru-hull after driving
them in.


Frankly, I think duct tape and a trash bag is a lot more useful than a
plug. If a seacock breaks, it is unlikely to leave a nice neat round
hole to drive a plug in. But who am I to argue with age-old tradition?

DSK